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Old May 20th 2015, 6:15 am
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Hi there,

I was hoping someone would take the time to give me a little bit of advice, or words of wisdom from their experiences.

My brother and sister, with their respective partners and children, are in the process of applying for visas to emigrate to Canada.
I am hoping to join them in the process, but would like to get some advice first.

My situation is: I'm 34 and divorced. I have 8 years teaching secondary school English experience, in the UK, with a 2:1 degree in English and QTS. I am currently not working but have savings of £100k approximately.

I would like to open a hair salon in Canada and employ my sister and sister in law (both of whom are experienced in
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Hi there,

I was hoping someone would take the time to give me a little bit of advice, or words of wisdom from their experiences.

My brother and sister, with their respective partners and children, are in the process of applying for visas to emigrate to Canada.
I am hoping to join them in the process, but would like to get some advice first.

My situation is: I'm 34 and divorced. I have 8 years teaching secondary school English experience, in the UK, with a 2:1 degree in English and QTS. I am currently not working but have savings of £100k approximately.

I would like to open a hair salon in Canada and employ my sister and sister in law (both of whom are experienced in
Experienced in.........abseiling? Cupcake decorating? Brain surgery? Tiddlywinks?

Enquiring minds would like to know.

I'm sure that people will happily give you lots of advice, once you've posted the rest and your questions.

Good luck.
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sorry. Abseiling, yes. Cupcake decorating, yes (but poorly) no brain surgery or tiddlywinks I'm afraid

No seriously, they are experienced in international hair. Both are accredited with the relevant qualifications and one is a 'teacher' of hair.

I have an income already of £1400 per month, which would follow me to Canada and I would add to this through the management of the salon and through private tutoring/proofreading/editorial work etc.

My questions are:
Am I likely to be excepted?
What path should I take? I'm worried about the self employed route as I have no experience within the last 5 years of salon life (before that, yes)
Could anyone give me tips on where to start the process? It all seems so complicated!

Thanks for your reply already, I really appreciate it.

J xxx
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sorry. Abseiling, yes. Cupcake decorating, yes (but poorly) no brain surgery or tiddlywinks I'm afraid

No seriously, they are experienced in international hair. Both are accredited with the relevant qualifications and one is a 'teacher' of hair.

I have an income already of £1400 per month, which would follow me to Canada and I would add to this through the management of the salon and through private tutoring/proofreading/editorial work etc.

My questions are:
Am I likely to be excepted?
What path should I take? I'm worried about the self employed route as I have no experience within the last 5 years of salon life (before that, yes)
Could anyone give me tips on where to start the process? It all seems so complicated!

Thanks for your reply already, I really appreciate it.

J xxx
"Am I likely to be excepted?" I assume that should be accepted, not excepted? Assuming yes...

Have a read of the wiki to understand the different immigration options open to you. Self-employed, Express Entry, PNP, etc.

Read up on what qualifications you may need to have in Canada in order to work as a hairstylist, it's a regulated profession in a lot of places.

Good luck.
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Thank you yes, accepted.
And from an English teacher too.
That's what I get for typing and wrestling two little ones into bed at the same time!
I've read the wiki and gone through the CIC wizard. It suggests the self employed option, but only with cultural experience, which my editorial/literature background should supply?
Does anyone know how they validate the experience? Would employer references be enough, or testimonies from self employed clients? Or full books?

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Can I just ask...what about your little ones?
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I've read the wiki and gone through the CIC wizard. It suggests the self employed option, but only with cultural experience, which my editorial/literature background should supply?
Does anyone know how they validate the experience? Would employer references be enough, or testimonies from self employed clients? Or full books?
If you were self-employed, then presumably you don't have employer references? You'd need an accountants statement, copies of your accounts etc, to prove you've been self-employed for at least 2 years out of the previous 5 in one of the qualifying occupations.

You mention a 'editorial/literature background', what exactly did you do and does it definitely qualify?

And just in case you're not aware, you'll be following quite a way behind your siblings if you go down that route, as it's got very long processing times - Processing times for self-employed class (federal) applications

HTH, good luck.
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Yes, I saw the processing time was huge.
Thanks for the information about the books, that was my main query really.
I would have employer references from within the 5 year period, but not the immediate 3 years, which is why I asked about this.
Thanks so much for your reply, it's been really helpful.
Last quick question if you don't mind; would my siblings be able to sponsor me by offering me a job when they were in Canada. By this I mean, them opening the salon and sponsoring me as an employee. I can't seem to find his this would be viewed in relation to the labour impact etc

Thanks so much again,

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Yes, I saw the processing time was huge.
Thanks for the information about the books, that was my main query really.
I would have employer references from within the 5 year period, but not the immediate 3 years, which is why I asked about this.
It doesn't need to be within the last 3 years, just the last 5. But again you've mentioned 'employer references', and if you were employed then you couldn't apply under self-employed. You'd need proof of self-employment, so your accounts, and client refs etc. What exactly did you do that was self-employed? It's just that you mention teaching in your first post, but haven't mentioned any other occupation that would qualify you for the self-employed program?

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Last quick question if you don't mind; would my siblings be able to sponsor me by offering me a job when they were in Canada. By this I mean, them opening the salon and sponsoring me as an employee. I can't seem to find his this would be viewed in relation to the labour impact etc
Highly unlikely. Not only because you're their sibling which would mean any application would be scrutinised far more closely anyway, but also because from what you've said, you have no recent experience in working in hair salons? So that would be an instant rejection anyway, even if you weren't related to the potential employer. You must be qualified in the application the LMIA is made under, and have current experience of it, otherwise ESDC won't believe you're more qualified than a Canadian to do the job.

HTH.

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Sorry, I should've clarified; I would hope to be employed by them as manager/book keeper, as I have been doing this as well, for the last three years, for my father's small business. However, I appreciate that the problems you've already mentioned would probably still exist.

I was employed as a teacher until 3 years ago.
For the last year or two, I have been self employed offering all types of language services. For example, secondary and tertiary level proofreading and tutoring, creating small editorials (mostly for marketing purposes for small businesses) etc. I was hoping this would qualify me under the self employed route?
Alternatively, I could always apply for a teaching position?

Tirytory, my children are 9 and 4. Their 3 cousins (around the same age) would be going with my siblings.
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Sorry, I should've clarified; I would hope to be employed by them as manager/book keeper, as I have been doing this as well, for the last three years, for my father's small business. However, I appreciate that the problems you've already mentioned would probably still exist.
Probably yes, and tbh it's not a specialist skills so I'd imagine you'd struggle to get ESDC to believe that there's not a Canadian that could do the job.

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I was employed as a teacher until 3 years ago.
For the last year or two, I have been self employed offering all types of language services. For example, secondary and tertiary level proofreading and tutoring, creating small editorials (mostly for marketing purposes for small businesses) etc. I was hoping this would qualify me under the self employed route?
Hmmm, tricky one. Proofreader certainly isn't a qualifying occupation and neither is tutor. But the editorials might work, if it came under 'Authors and Writers' or 'Editors'. You'd have to look at those NOC codes to see if you did the duties listed, and if you could prove you'd done them full-time for at least 2 years on a self-employed basis.

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Alternatively, I could always apply for a teaching position?
Erm.........Teaching in Canada : British Expat Wiki

Which province will you be intending to move to? There may be a visa option depending on that.
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Alberta. I'll get onto the teaching wiki now. Thanks.
And I'll look at the duties listed.
thanks, really helpful! Xxx
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Alberta. I'll get onto the teaching wiki now. Thanks.
And I'll look at the duties listed.
thanks, really helpful! Xxx
No probs! Alberta isn't a province that has a business stream under their PNP, so that's not an option, but have you looked at the Start Up visa program? Start-up visa
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Sorry, I should've clarified; I would hope to be employed by them as manager/book keeper, as I have been doing this as well, for the last three years, for my father's small business. However, I appreciate that the problems you've already mentioned would probably still exist.

I was employed as a teacher until 3 years ago.
For the last year or two, I have been self employed offering all types of language services. For example, secondary and tertiary level proofreading and tutoring, creating small editorials (mostly for marketing purposes for small businesses) etc. I was hoping this would qualify me under the self employed route?
Alternatively, I could always apply for a teaching position?

Tirytory, my children are 9 and 4. Their 3 cousins (around the same age) would be going with my siblings.
But presumably they're staying with your divorced wife? Or are they coming with permission? Although sorry to say it doesn't sound hugely promising for you right now?
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No, they'd be coming with me. With permission. Although, I'm the wife, not the husband.

I haven't looked at the start up visa, I'll do that now.
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