wingnut

Ok , Might sound strange but here's the prob. My partner and I currently live in Canada. As part of his job he is required to apply for permanent resident status. However we do wish to immigrate to Australia eventually. Will applying for permanent residence in Canada affect us if we want to go to Australia? Please help as don't want to end up staying in the snow forever!!!!!

Thanks Wingnut. X

Peter Tomo

Wingnut, if applying for OZ Skilled visa, there is a question whether you wait for other visa. I don't think waiting for Canadian PR makes problem, unless you apply as OZ regional nominated (STNI).

Preserving OZ PR: basically, you need to enter to OZ = validate your PR in 1 year from OZ medicals/police checks (asked for during visa process). You can enter/exit OZ as PR freely within first 5 years since PR visa grant. After those 5 years you need to be in OZ for 2 ys of past 5 ys and for 12mths for past 2 ys in order to get another 5ys valid Resident Return Visa (or citizenship).

Thirsty for Melbourne.... Peter Tomo

Stuart Brook

    > Originally posted by wingnut
    > > ...I currently live in Canada... apply for permanent resident status.
    > > However we do wish to immigrate to Australia eventually. Will
    > > applying for permanent residence in Canada affect us if we want to go
    > > to Australia?

Applying isn't the problem. Legally keeping both is.

biran

Stuart ,

It seems that you are saying "Legally keeping both PR is not allowed" . I was doing little bit research in this area , but did not find anything. In my case I was trying to find out if I can keep both US and Canadian PR simultaneously. There are no where mentioned that u can not keep. Though it's difficult to fullfill the criteria , but still possible. Do you have any official docs which you can point at ...

Thanks
Biran

ptlabs

What Stuart probably meant that it's going to be practically very difficult to keep two (or more) PRs alive.

There's nothing illegal about holdling on to an Aussie PR while being a Canadian PR. The practical problem arises when that person wishes to preserve those two visas.

Each country has its own rules for PR 'renewal' (in effect the grant of an RRV or RRP or whatever they call it). Their criteria usually involves residency in the country itself, which will be difficult to meet to preserve both PR statuses.


Peter

sakura

In our case we applied for immigration to the federal a year ago. Can we apply to certificat de selection du Quebec?.
Is it considered legale? Or should we cansel the former before applying to Quebec?


Thanking you in advance for your help.

Stuart Brook

biran wrote:
    >
    > Stuart ,
    >
    > It seems that you are saying "Legally keeping both PR is not allowed" .
    > I was doing little bit research in this area , but did not find
    > anything. In my case I was trying to find out if I can keep both US and
    > Canadian PR simultaneously. There are no where mentioned that u can not
    > keep. Though it's difficult to fullfill the criteria , but still
    > possible. Do you have any official docs which you can point at ...
    >
    > Thanks
    > Biran

In Canada's case you no longer have intent to abandon rules to meet,
just physical presence. With the US, there are still intent rules,
although finding them in the INA is very difficult, and they tend to be
very interpretive.

Stuart

sakura

Sorry for intruding in a thread I did not create, but I posted my question a while ago and I got only one not very helpful response (Aikido like).
So please can you tell me if it is possible to apply to Quebec while our application to the federal is still in process. We obviously would like to make Canada our home.
So please shed some light if you can.
thanks

Jaj

To add to what Peter has said, Australia has a 2/5 year residency rule
like Canada, although the detailed rules are different.

So to keep both Canadian and Australian PR alive, you have to keep
moving back and forth between both countries every few years. How
many people are willing and able to do that?

New Zealand currently offers indefinite resident return visas to those
migrants with two years or more residence. It therefore would be
quite straightforward to have 'PR' in New Zealand as well as 'PR'
somewhere else. But if you're going to try for this, why not go the
extra mile and get citizenship?

Jeremy

    >On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 00:41:10 +0000, ptlabs wrote:
    >What Stuart probably meant that it's going to be practically very
    >difficult to keep two (or more) PRs alive.
    >There's nothing illegal about holdling on to an Aussie PR while being a
    >Canadian PR. The practical problem arises when that person wishes to
    >preserve those two visas.
    >Each country has its own rules for PR 'renewal' (in effect the grant of
    >an RRV or RRP or whatever they call it). Their criteria usually involves
    >residency in the country itself, which will be difficult to meet to
    >preserve both PR statuses.
    >Peter

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Bodza Bodza

Stuart Brook :

> In Canada's case you no longer have intent to abandon rules to
meet,
    > just physical presence. With the US, there are still intent rules,
    > although finding them in the INA is very difficult, and they tend to be
    > very interpretive.

I'd just like to add that although this is true the application for
citizenship in canada asks if you have applied for PR in another
country since landing in canada and that you have to maintain
residence at all times before and during the citizenship application
process, but... with respect to section xxx of the *old* immigration
law. It remains to be seen how this will be interpreted since the new
immigration law does not forbid having another PR. Policy might be
different, but I doubt it since on the application for the maple leaf
card *and* the reference manual for IRPA loss of residence, having a
second PR is mentioned not even once. Moreover, it states in various
places that intent to abandon is abandoned.. Pun intended...