Vuldon

Can i get TWP as a welder with no certs?

I'm 37 years old and have 20 years in Mig and Tig welding but no trade certs to back it up.

I know I cant weld in Alberta as you need to be a trade registered/red seal welder.

Can i get a TWP in these circumstances for other areas of Canada?
and is the NOC code 7625 correct or do I need to be qualified to use this code?

christmasoompa

I don't really know if this answers your questions but have you read this Wiki page?

http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Skilled_Trades-Canada

It would appear it will depend on the province you are hoping to work in so you'll need to check them all out individually, but that you'll have to be Red Seal accredited wherever you go.

Hope that helps.

Vuldon

Thanks for your prompt reply

Red Seal is a recognised qualification but I would have to apprentice for it (getting too old for that) and a lot of the welders Jobs advertised don’t even ask for it.

So back to the original question, can i get TWP as a welder with no certs?

Vuldon

Ok so say I go down the route of a Red Seal Equivalency exam, can I do this with no formal qualification in welding or would I be better off getting an NVQ III in welding first?

moondevil

To be honest i would go and speak to the area that you are looking at.

If it is alberta, then contact the AIT board, ontario is the ministry of training.

My hubby is electrician and had t show all his certificates and references from all his employers, also one company had gone, so wrote own letter and got our solictor to counter sign it.
They made us jump through some loops, but they will talk to you via email as well

Good luck

plw

You definatly need to check with the area of Canada you aer thinking of going.
Each province has defering rules for pretty much everything.

Vuldon

I would ideally like to go to Oakville, Ontario but welders arent on the OUP list for Ontario so not sure I could get a positive LMO

BC has welders on the OUP list but it seems that the housing is very expensive

and Alberta would require me to be certified such as red seal and after reading this http://www.red-seal.ca/Site/english/pdf/Welder_2004.pdf you start to doubt your own abilities

christmasoompa

I think that everywhere will require you to be cert Red Seal? Have you done a search of the forum to see if you can find other welders on here and ask them? That might help.

alex_glw

You CAN work in Alberta as welder on a TWP but they will only grant a 6 month visa initially in which time you will have to sit and pass the trade test in order for it to be extended.
As for not having your trade cert from the UK, you with have to prove that you have "x" amounts of welding hrs. in order to be eligable to sit the test. A letter from present and past employers will do.

3 of us came over from the UK this way. (2 welders and myself a sheet metal worker)

Biiiiink

See if you can contact Voyager970, he was a welder who had changed career but swapped back again to gain entry to Canada. I'm sure he'll have lots of tips and information for you.

moondevil

to get your temp work permit, did you not have to prove to the ait that you was qualified to sit the exam????

hubby did as an electrcian, his employer had to submit the info from ait with the lmo application???

Eddie from ontario is working as a fitter
Contact the bodys and see what they say, best route

Gill

alex_glw

Yes that is correct. I had sent over all my city and guilds certs, details off work experience etc. The original poster does not have certificates but does have the work experience which should be enough for him to qualify to sit the exam so long as he can prove it.


Page 14 of 14 shows the amount of time on the job that a welder needs to qualify in order to sit the test in Alberta also see page 2 " Requirements for Certification"

http://www.tradesecrets.gov.ab.ca/fo..._qual_cert.pdf

The Tests are tough all three of us failed our first crack at theory tests with one guy failing practical too and having to go home

moondevil

so how would he fill out the education side

What im trying to say is please contact the AIT at the number at edmonton, they have the info for you that you need.
It maybe that because you have done the job for so long that you will be able to enter under your skills, but you will also need to find an employer to take you on as well.

We showed all OH info when we was in lethbridge and they was happy to fax all info to edmonton.
We will also receive a 6mth work permit when we land in lethbridge and he mut sit his test, but there is books and help out there for you lot.
Hubby has been told that he will probably fail the first exam, but hey its so worth a shot, plus we have the material now and hes reading this side.

Give edmonton a call, at least it would give you the answer

Gill

Vuldon

Thanks for all your responses

what type of testing was involved alex_glw?

can you specialise in say mig or tig or stick? or must you be competent in all types of welding?

alex_glw

I sat the Sheet metal test and thought it was tough. The two lads that came over around the same time as me sat the welders test One of them was a sheet metal worker the other a metal fabricator(both very similar) Our boss in Canada thought the Welding test would be easier than sheet metal as its mostly HVAC I disagreed as although most sheet metal workers weld its not our main trade. Anyway the guys were able to prove they had done enough welding in their careers and were able to sit the welding test. both failed the theory one scrapped past the practical the other failed that too.

Nots sure of all whats invoved in the welding tests do know however that the practical tests are stick welding and are quite intense, with bend test etc carried out on welds. Noticed that you have done a lot of MIG and TIG you will definitely have to know stick welding too.

Like one of the above posters says the hardest part will be finding an employer initially perpared to employ you. If you got lucky then a lot of swotting up will be required and I mean a lot.


Note I can only speak about Alberta, not sure about other provinces