Former Lancastrian

Yes they do many LMOs are refused because the employer has not satisfied HRSDC that they cannot find a local to do the work.

Aviator

They have to follow strict protocols to hire Canadians or PR and prove they have done so. More and more LMO applications are being refused these days.

Why do you think it would not be completely true?

james.mc

Probably comparing Canada with the UK!

Here is one example I know of.
Any foreigner (Non EU citizen) can enter the UK with a letter of support from a UK company, to say they are entering the UK to go to work offshore in the North Sea. No need to prove that they cannot employ a Brit to do the same job. No work permit needed. Welcome to the UK sir!

Can't do that in Canada.

Aviator

A mistake a lot of people make.

christmasoompa

Yes you can, in certain jobs - just as in the UK it seems. It's a lot harder for most non-EU citizens to move to the UK than you seem to think, for most it's just as tough as those going the other way.

james.mc

I'm sure it's reasonably hard for non EU citizens to get into the UK, but to the average British citizen in the street I guess it seems there are a lot of loopholes.

I only know about the offshore industry in that respect. A couple of years back my wife was held up at immigration in Canada whilst they had Suncor Energy (the sponsoring company for want of a better expression) prove that no other Canadians were available to do the job. It only took a few phone calls and a couple of hours, so not too sure how hard CIC had them work to prove the fact. I seem to recall that a TWP was issued on entry for the period of the job only. My wife is British and works as a CSWIP 3.4u subsea inspection coordinator. Not many of them around. CSWIP 3.4u's I mean... not wives

You mentioned... Yes you can, in certain jobs.
Would that be Chinese Coal miners then?

Lion Heart

I say that surely it can be rarely true because, unless it is a VERY specialised job, I'd bet the employer could find a Canadian to do the job if they really tried.

Is this the case for anyone who wants a TWP to work in Canada?

What if they wanted to work, for example, in a bank. This job could be done by a Candian no problem. So would the employer state they could not find any Canadian's anywhere to work in their bank?

It seems that (correct me if I'm wrong!!) that to get a TWP you need an LMO from you employer, which is them stating that they could not get a Canadian to do the job.

I would think people get TWP to work in Pizza Pizza, McDonald's etc during a year out from Uni or whatever?? Surely Pizza Pizza would not fill out a form saying it was impossible to get a Canadian to work in Pizza Pizza for that role?

Am I missing something here?

Thanks guys!

ninaDGBCA

To work at Pizza Pizza or Mc D: people out of Uni would come on an IEC visa and therefore would have an open work permit for one year. Or come with a FSW/PNP (LMO) TWP holder as an accompanying spouse and get an open work permit therefore they can work wherever.

There are certain advertisement requirements for the LMO. 2 weeks Job Bank, newspaper etc., I don't remember what exactly it was OH's employer had to do and then , if there are more applicants than the foreign worker, they have to do interviews etc. In the end they have to submit all of this with the LMO app and prove why the foreign worker is the only suitable candidate. Basically the more skills one has the harder it'll be to find an equally well skilled worker in Canada the more likely the LMO will be approved.

HTH

cedarsguardian

The quickest route to get to Canada as far as I know is to get an Intra-Company transfer.

Once you are in Canada you can apply for a PR through FSW or PNP, which will take anything up to 11 months.

I do not know how recent immigration changes proposed in 2013 will impact this, however at the moment they closed the FSW until 2013 to clear the bakclog.


I also wanted to add that you do not require LMO for intra-company transfer. The only issue I see if the type you want go for i.e. executive, managerial or specialized knowledge. I work in IT and have in depth knowledge of my company's product, so I am not certain whether this fits the Specialized knowledge criteria. I am in waiting mode at the moment.

Hope this helps.

christmasoompa

Only if they're Daily Mail readers.


Jobs like company transfers (no LMO required), occupations such as welders, mechanics, carpenters heading to Alberta (again, no LMO required), Americans or Mexicans applying for a TWP under NAFTA (yep, you guessed it - no LMO).

So as you can see, there are plenty of times when it is possible for somebody to do what you mentioned i.e. turn up and get a work permit with just a letter/job offer, no requirement for the company to have tried to hire a Canadian first.

So it would happen in Canada too, just as in the UK.

Lion Heart

Hi cedarsguardian

Agree on the Intra-company transfer route, and that works fine if you have a branch of your employer in UK and Canada.

But if you run your own business you'd need to open a Canadian branch, and the UK one would still have to keep running at the same time.

I've found it very difficult to find information on the requirements for Intra-company transfers (example, can it be a start up company, is there a minimum number of employee's, is there a minimum investment etc). Anyone have any links for more info on ICT's?

I think its hard to get info on because it's not actually strictly immigration. You still get a TWP, which is the immigration part of the process, but the actual ICT is more business than immigration related??

christmasoompa

Assume you've read the Wiki article about intra-company transfers? No minimum staff etc required.

Lion Heart

Hi there

I just traced the Wiki down. Yes, I'd read that before actually - very interesting stuff!!

However, it does not go into much detail there. I remember reading somewhere during my last batchof research a few months back that it can be a start-up but business premesis must be secured.

But I can't find that again for the life of me!!

christmasoompa

It doesn't go in to much detail because there simply isn't room! If you want detail, then it's the Op Manual you need - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...w/fw01-eng.pdf

christmasoompa

I assume you've read this, but just in case you haven't, CIC clarified the requirements for 'specialized knowledge' category earlier this year - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc...2011/ob316.asp

So that's the criteria you'll need to meet to be eligible, good luck.