Attn, Mr. Andrew Miller

Old Oct 4th 2003, 6:42 pm
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Dear Mr. Andrew Miller,

My mother language is not English.
Do I have to take any English exams to prove my English proficiency, although I have completed my University (BSc Me Engineering) in the US and have been working with American companies ever since I graduated from collage. (16 years)
Kindly advise.

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Old Oct 4th 2003, 6:59 pm
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U misspelled College (Collage) so i guess u should :-)
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Old Oct 4th 2003, 7:14 pm
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Thanks, but who the hell asked for your opinion?
The post is originally addressed to experts.
Get a job.
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Old Oct 5th 2003, 12:47 am
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ly1,

While reading through your past postings, in which I have found very informative and all related to IELTS, and I permitted myself to quote you as following,

(Re: **** New pass mark for Skilled Woirkers --- 67 points ***** Wow!!!!
I think there is a racist touch to Andrews comment on Indians not being able to score in IELTS. Some kind of colonial hangover i think Mr. Miller.

I studied in English all thru and never scored top grades in English in India yet I scored band 9 on both Speaking and Writing.I think IELTS is not exactly a great exam to measure English skills.You got to remember statistics show that Indians have always scored better in exams Like TOEFL/GRE/GMAT/IELTS. Indians are the also the largest community to pass microsoft exams outside the US.Thats why even the Americans aren't ignoring the Indians.They realise the huge potential of that community. India is the only third world country with the highest turnover in Software and IT exports,most of which are in English. 25 % of developers in Microsoft (The office suite you use widely) are Indians for you information.

If you thought Indians couldn't speak english you would be surprised to know that most companies in US and UK are outsourcing the call centre jobs to Indians in India,so next time you think you called a service company in your country you may actually be speaking to an Indian.

Obviously if you couldn't bear the success of a third world nation like India you end up criticizing them.)

I guess you did not sound so funny in this post, you were rather defiant , speaking for 3rd world rights, hah.....

typo errors are allowed, don't you think, just concentrate a bit on
your spelling and you will know what I am talking about 1976 boy.
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Old Oct 5th 2003, 4:14 am
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It is highly recommended to take IELTS (or CELPIP) test as such is the only
objective proof of proficiency level in English. Providing substitute
evidence leaves you at the mercy of processing officer and hers or his
subjective evaluation. Don't take chances - take the test.

Submit substitute evidence with application if you are in the hurry to
apply, but make sure to submit IELTS test results within few months from
receipt of file number.

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    > Dear Mr. Andrew Miller,
    > My mother language is not English.
    > Do I have to take any English exams to prove my English proficiency,
    > although I have completed my University (BSc Me Engineering) in the US
    > and have been working with American companies ever since I graduated
    > from collage. (16 years)
    > Kindly advise.
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Old Oct 5th 2003, 5:31 am
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Thank you sir
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Old Oct 5th 2003, 3:33 pm
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Hey Taiseer,

Cool it yaar. I did not mean to hurt you. Nobody is perfect we all make mistakes and so did you. Errors are definitely allowed. I myself make so many while typing.

I might have sounded funny here but my point was Andrew would anyway have advised you to take IELTS. HE does have to keep telling that almost everyday now.

Since you already studied in the US and are working there as well IELTS should be a cakewalk fo you. Hence in a very jovial way I asked you to go for it. No offence here. Also the earlier issue which you brought about racism was sorted out amicably.I have no hangups about that.Whatever be the case Andrew does a great job helping people out by replying to thier causes and as humans at times we get irked for no reason, same was the case here. Ok, if I sounded rude I apologise.

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Old Oct 5th 2003, 4:32 pm
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ly1,

Cool man, no hurt feelings.
I guess no one likes add ups (extra efforts and money) when doing anything in life.

Take it easy.

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