Assessment of language skills
Dec 15th 2002, 8:11 am
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Assessment of language skills
Hi everyone
According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling myself short where it comes to French language skills.
I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my mother tongue?
Thanks in advance
Suze
PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling myself short where it comes to French language skills.
I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my mother tongue?
Thanks in advance
Suze
PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
Dec 15th 2002, 12:26 pm
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Re: Assessment of language skills
To gain points for knowledge of French you would have to take the TEF. The
officer will not do any informal assessment.
Jim Humphries, former visa officer
"suzey" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi everyone
> According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> mother tongue?
> Thanks in advance
> Suze
> PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
officer will not do any informal assessment.
Jim Humphries, former visa officer
"suzey" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi everyone
> According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> mother tongue?
> Thanks in advance
> Suze
> PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Dec 15th 2002, 1:59 pm
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Re: Assessment of language skills
All info about assessing language proficiency is on CIC website, you just
didn't look there.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"suzey" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi everyone
> According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> mother tongue?
> Thanks in advance
> Suze
> PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
didn't look there.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"suzey" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi everyone
> According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> mother tongue?
> Thanks in advance
> Suze
> PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Dec 15th 2002, 6:47 pm
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Re: Assessment of language skills
Hi Andrew Miller,
Recently I have also applied for Canadian Immigration.
Now, the consultant is asking me to take up the IELTS exam for the
english language profficiency.
Until then, they are not going to start my processing.
Is it required mandatorily ?
Could you plz tell me the reason ?
The consultant says that to make my case more stronger, they are demanding.
Regards
Vasanth
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
> All info about assessing language proficiency is on CIC website, you just
> didn't look there.
>
> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
>
> --
>
> ../..
>
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
>
> For confidential phone consultation go here:
>
> http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> ________________________________
>
>
> "suzey" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> > PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> > myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> >
> > I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> > studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> > subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> > what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> > the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> > to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> > mother tongue?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Suze
> >
> > PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> >
> > --
> > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Recently I have also applied for Canadian Immigration.
Now, the consultant is asking me to take up the IELTS exam for the
english language profficiency.
Until then, they are not going to start my processing.
Is it required mandatorily ?
Could you plz tell me the reason ?
The consultant says that to make my case more stronger, they are demanding.
Regards
Vasanth
"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
> All info about assessing language proficiency is on CIC website, you just
> didn't look there.
>
> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
>
> --
>
> ../..
>
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
>
> For confidential phone consultation go here:
>
> http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> ________________________________
>
>
> "suzey" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> > PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> > myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> >
> > I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> > studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> > subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> > what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> > the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> > to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> > mother tongue?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Suze
> >
> > PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> >
> > --
> > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Dec 16th 2002, 12:33 am
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Re: Assessment of language skills
[email protected] (Vasanth Kumar K) wrote in message news:...
> Hi Andrew Miller,
>
> Recently I have also applied for Canadian Immigration.
> Now, the consultant is asking me to take up the IELTS exam for the
> english language profficiency.
> Until then, they are not going to start my processing.
> Is it required mandatorily ?
> Could you plz tell me the reason ?
> The consultant says that to make my case more stronger, they are demanding.
>
> Regards
> Vasanth
>
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
> > All info about assessing language proficiency is on CIC website, you just
> > didn't look there.
> >
> > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > "suzey" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > Hi everyone
> > >
> > > According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> > > PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> > > myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> > >
> > > I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> > > studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> > > subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> > > what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> > > the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> > > to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> > > mother tongue?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Suze
> > >
> > > PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Language testing is not mandatory. You can make a submission regarding
your education and how you use English or french in your work and
life. For example if you live and were edcuated in England,
proficiency in English should be a given. Howver a GCE in French from
10 years ago may not be accepted. If the visa officer does not accept
the submission you can be asked for a test result.
Weather -5C but sunny today.
For Vasanth: The test for English is just a part of the selection
system. If your consultant is asking you to do a test after your
paying him ask him how many points you have in total with high
proficiency. It is not easy to reach the pass mark unless you scre
high in education, have relatives or Cdn work expereince. He could be
stalling!!!!
Jim Metcalfe , Consultant
> Hi Andrew Miller,
>
> Recently I have also applied for Canadian Immigration.
> Now, the consultant is asking me to take up the IELTS exam for the
> english language profficiency.
> Until then, they are not going to start my processing.
> Is it required mandatorily ?
> Could you plz tell me the reason ?
> The consultant says that to make my case more stronger, they are demanding.
>
> Regards
> Vasanth
>
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
> > All info about assessing language proficiency is on CIC website, you just
> > didn't look there.
> >
> > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > "suzey" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > Hi everyone
> > >
> > > According to the CIC website, I have 72 points to offer if I apply for
> > > PR status as a Skilled Worker. However, I feel that I may be selling
> > > myself short where it comes to French language skills.
> > >
> > > I am a UK-born British citizen and English is my mother tongue. I
> > > studied French from the age of 11 to 16 and passed public exams in the
> > > subject. I can't see any information which tells you how CIC decide
> > > what your proficiency is. Do you have to sit certain tests and submit
> > > the certificates? Will my GCSE certificate be enough? And do I have
> > > to submit evidence of my proficiency in English, even though it's my
> > > mother tongue?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Suze
> > >
> > > PS How is the weather in Toronto at the moment?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Language testing is not mandatory. You can make a submission regarding
your education and how you use English or french in your work and
life. For example if you live and were edcuated in England,
proficiency in English should be a given. Howver a GCE in French from
10 years ago may not be accepted. If the visa officer does not accept
the submission you can be asked for a test result.
Weather -5C but sunny today.
For Vasanth: The test for English is just a part of the selection
system. If your consultant is asking you to do a test after your
paying him ask him how many points you have in total with high
proficiency. It is not easy to reach the pass mark unless you scre
high in education, have relatives or Cdn work expereince. He could be
stalling!!!!
Jim Metcalfe , Consultant
Dec 16th 2002, 2:48 am
#6
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Re: Assessment of language skills
Evidence of proficiency in English and/or French language must be submitted
with the application. The only acceptable as objective proof of English
proficiency is IELTS or CELPIP test result. If you live for many years in a
country where English is main language, you completed education with English
as a medium and you use English as a primary language in your work and daily
life then so called substitute evidence may be accepted in lieu of IELTS
test - but even then you are taking a huge risk as processing officer will
be forced to assess such substitute evidence against Canadian Language
Benchmarks, which is a manual with 200+ pages to follow. Officer may not
assess your proficiency in English as high and you may lose precious points.
More - you are in India and CHC New Delhi requires IELTS test results with
the application, so your consultant is correct insisting of getting one from
you.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"Vasanth Kumar K" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Andrew Miller,
> Recently I have also applied for Canadian Immigration.
> Now, the consultant is asking me to take up the IELTS exam for the
> english language profficiency.
> Until then, they are not going to start my processing.
> Is it required mandatorily ?
> Could you plz tell me the reason ?
> The consultant says that to make my case more stronger, they are
demanding.
> Regards
> Vasanth
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:...
> > All info about assessing language proficiency is on CIC website, you
just
> > didn't look there.
> >
> > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
with the application. The only acceptable as objective proof of English
proficiency is IELTS or CELPIP test result. If you live for many years in a
country where English is main language, you completed education with English
as a medium and you use English as a primary language in your work and daily
life then so called substitute evidence may be accepted in lieu of IELTS
test - but even then you are taking a huge risk as processing officer will
be forced to assess such substitute evidence against Canadian Language
Benchmarks, which is a manual with 200+ pages to follow. Officer may not
assess your proficiency in English as high and you may lose precious points.
More - you are in India and CHC New Delhi requires IELTS test results with
the application, so your consultant is correct insisting of getting one from
you.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
For confidential phone consultation go here:
http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________
"Vasanth Kumar K" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Andrew Miller,
> Recently I have also applied for Canadian Immigration.
> Now, the consultant is asking me to take up the IELTS exam for the
> english language profficiency.
> Until then, they are not going to start my processing.
> Is it required mandatorily ?
> Could you plz tell me the reason ?
> The consultant says that to make my case more stronger, they are
demanding.
> Regards
> Vasanth
> "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:...
> > All info about assessing language proficiency is on CIC website, you
just
> > didn't look there.
> >
> > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/qual-3.html
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> >
> > For confidential phone consultation go here:
> >
> > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
