ANDREW MILLER
Nov 12th 2008, 1:59 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
Here's hoping you are back to feeling 100% soon Andrew, your input around here is valuable & appreciated.
Nov 12th 2008, 2:26 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
I rest my case. Good to see you back Andrew, hope you recover fully soon.
Nov 12th 2008, 3:03 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
Wishing you a speedy recovery Andrew.
Ray
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Nov 12th 2008, 3:46 pm
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Hi all,
I have been responding to another duplicate thread and have just been pointed in this ones direction.
All has been explained, so no need to add my ten penny's worth.
Andrew,
your welcome! take it easy and get back to your 100% self. You have been a great help to us, this past 12 months, thank you very much.
speak soon, regards to all,
Carl
I have been responding to another duplicate thread and have just been pointed in this ones direction.
All has been explained, so no need to add my ten penny's worth.
Andrew,
your welcome! take it easy and get back to your 100% self. You have been a great help to us, this past 12 months, thank you very much.
speak soon, regards to all,
Carl
Nov 12th 2008, 8:38 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
I'm sorry.. But am I the only one concerned about this?
I have been a long time reader, but never a poster. We never bothered signing up, because we believed in Andrew, and we contacted him directly after reading his answers on here.
For the past 13 months, We have been in contact with Andrew Miller regarding our move and frequently he has assured us that we have the consumer protection of CSIC. If you re-read his posts over the last 3 - 4 years he has constantly drummed home the consumer protection aspect of CSIC.. Now that it doesn't suit his business, he seems to totally distance himself from this organization, despite the many years of support and postings he has made about them.
Time and time again Andrew, you have stated the importance of using a CSIC REGISTERED AGENT. Now you are basically saying its all cr*p. What protection do I have if I decide to use your company, and we fall into dispute over the services provided??
NONE.
What does CSIC say about working with a suspended member???
http://www.csic-scci.ca/content/Workingwithasuspended
"A Member who has been suspended or revoked as a result of the discipline process is not entitled to hold herself or himself out as a Society member and is not entitled to act as an authorized representative. He or she may not represent, advise, or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board, for a fee (in accordance with section 2 and subsection 13.1 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations).
Also, in accordance with Rule 3.7 of the Rules of Professional Conduct, Members may not employ or retain in any capacity (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society. Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
I point out the importance of the last paragraph...
"Members may not employ or retain IN ANY CAPACITY (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society."
This person being you Andrew.....
"Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
Therefore, if Andrew Miller is sharing his office with a CSIC member, like he is claiming to do in his previous post, that CSIC member is breaking the rules of professional conduct. Also if Andrew (as he claims) is employing a CSIC member (as claimed in previous posts), that CSIC member is being retaining Andrew's services "IN ANY CAPACITY" and is such breaking CSIC's regulations..
Andrew, you cant explain this away. You are clearly in breach of the rules, ironically which you have preached for so many years. We are really disappointed in you and we will be asking for a refund in due course. Especially as it is now illegal for you to liaise with the department on our behalf.
Andrew, the reason me and the missus chose your agency over the others, is because you claimed to be above board in all aspects. The other agency we were investigating was based in the UK with CSIC and Canadian Law Society Membership... Now it turns out that you have neither, and the appropriate authorities advise AGAINST dealing with you.
How can you possibly justify this?
-Very Upset, Mike
:curse:
I have been a long time reader, but never a poster. We never bothered signing up, because we believed in Andrew, and we contacted him directly after reading his answers on here.
For the past 13 months, We have been in contact with Andrew Miller regarding our move and frequently he has assured us that we have the consumer protection of CSIC. If you re-read his posts over the last 3 - 4 years he has constantly drummed home the consumer protection aspect of CSIC.. Now that it doesn't suit his business, he seems to totally distance himself from this organization, despite the many years of support and postings he has made about them.
Time and time again Andrew, you have stated the importance of using a CSIC REGISTERED AGENT. Now you are basically saying its all cr*p. What protection do I have if I decide to use your company, and we fall into dispute over the services provided??
NONE.
What does CSIC say about working with a suspended member???
http://www.csic-scci.ca/content/Workingwithasuspended
"A Member who has been suspended or revoked as a result of the discipline process is not entitled to hold herself or himself out as a Society member and is not entitled to act as an authorized representative. He or she may not represent, advise, or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board, for a fee (in accordance with section 2 and subsection 13.1 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations).
Also, in accordance with Rule 3.7 of the Rules of Professional Conduct, Members may not employ or retain in any capacity (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society. Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
I point out the importance of the last paragraph...
"Members may not employ or retain IN ANY CAPACITY (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society."
This person being you Andrew.....
"Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
Therefore, if Andrew Miller is sharing his office with a CSIC member, like he is claiming to do in his previous post, that CSIC member is breaking the rules of professional conduct. Also if Andrew (as he claims) is employing a CSIC member (as claimed in previous posts), that CSIC member is being retaining Andrew's services "IN ANY CAPACITY" and is such breaking CSIC's regulations..
Andrew, you cant explain this away. You are clearly in breach of the rules, ironically which you have preached for so many years. We are really disappointed in you and we will be asking for a refund in due course. Especially as it is now illegal for you to liaise with the department on our behalf.
Andrew, the reason me and the missus chose your agency over the others, is because you claimed to be above board in all aspects. The other agency we were investigating was based in the UK with CSIC and Canadian Law Society Membership... Now it turns out that you have neither, and the appropriate authorities advise AGAINST dealing with you.
How can you possibly justify this?
-Very Upset, Mike
:curse:
Nov 12th 2008, 10:03 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
Get well soon, Andrew!!!!
by the way, i submited a new CEC application last friday and hopefully everything goes well.
by the way, i submited a new CEC application last friday and hopefully everything goes well.
Nov 12th 2008, 10:28 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
This is my concern too - also it states on the website regarding suspended members that they are to contact their clients within 5 days of the membership being suspended and provide them with an account of the services rendered.
It is obvious that Andrew hasn't done this and I will also be requesting a refund.
I have to say I am very disappointed in this. Hopefully Andrew will have a suitable explanation for this mess that he has got himself into.
It is obvious that Andrew hasn't done this and I will also be requesting a refund.
I have to say I am very disappointed in this. Hopefully Andrew will have a suitable explanation for this mess that he has got himself into.
Nov 12th 2008, 10:29 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
I'm sorry.. But am I the only one concerned about this?
I have been a long time reader, but never a poster. We never bothered signing up, because we believed in Andrew, and we contacted him directly after reading his answers on here.
For the past 13 months, We have been in contact with Andrew Miller regarding our move and frequently he has assured us that we have the consumer protection of CSIC. If you re-read his posts over the last 3 - 4 years he has constantly drummed home the consumer protection aspect of CSIC.. Now that it doesn't suit his business, he seems to totally distance himself from this organization, despite the many years of support and postings he has made about them.
Time and time again Andrew, you have stated the importance of using a CSIC REGISTERED AGENT. Now you are basically saying its all cr*p. What protection do I have if I decide to use your company, and we fall into dispute over the services provided??
NONE.
What does CSIC say about working with a suspended member???
http://www.csic-scci.ca/content/Workingwithasuspended
"A Member who has been suspended or revoked as a result of the discipline process is not entitled to hold herself or himself out as a Society member and is not entitled to act as an authorized representative. He or she may not represent, advise, or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board, for a fee (in accordance with section 2 and subsection 13.1 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations).
Also, in accordance with Rule 3.7 of the Rules of Professional Conduct, Members may not employ or retain in any capacity (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society. Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
I point out the importance of the last paragraph...
"Members may not employ or retain IN ANY CAPACITY (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society."
This person being you Andrew.....
"Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
Therefore, if Andrew Miller is sharing his office with a CSIC member, like he is claiming to do in his previous post, that CSIC member is breaking the rules of professional conduct. Also if Andrew (as he claims) is employing a CSIC member (as claimed in previous posts), that CSIC member is being retaining Andrew's services "IN ANY CAPACITY" and is such breaking CSIC's regulations..
Andrew, you cant explain this away. You are clearly in breach of the rules, ironically which you have preached for so many years. We are really disappointed in you and we will be asking for a refund in due course. Especially as it is now illegal for you to liaise with the department on our behalf.
Andrew, the reason me and the missus chose your agency over the others, is because you claimed to be above board in all aspects. The other agency we were investigating was based in the UK with CSIC and Canadian Law Society Membership... Now it turns out that you have neither, and the appropriate authorities advise AGAINST dealing with you.
How can you possibly justify this?
-Very Upset, Mike
:curse:
I have been a long time reader, but never a poster. We never bothered signing up, because we believed in Andrew, and we contacted him directly after reading his answers on here.
For the past 13 months, We have been in contact with Andrew Miller regarding our move and frequently he has assured us that we have the consumer protection of CSIC. If you re-read his posts over the last 3 - 4 years he has constantly drummed home the consumer protection aspect of CSIC.. Now that it doesn't suit his business, he seems to totally distance himself from this organization, despite the many years of support and postings he has made about them.
Time and time again Andrew, you have stated the importance of using a CSIC REGISTERED AGENT. Now you are basically saying its all cr*p. What protection do I have if I decide to use your company, and we fall into dispute over the services provided??
NONE.
What does CSIC say about working with a suspended member???
http://www.csic-scci.ca/content/Workingwithasuspended
"A Member who has been suspended or revoked as a result of the discipline process is not entitled to hold herself or himself out as a Society member and is not entitled to act as an authorized representative. He or she may not represent, advise, or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board, for a fee (in accordance with section 2 and subsection 13.1 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations).
Also, in accordance with Rule 3.7 of the Rules of Professional Conduct, Members may not employ or retain in any capacity (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society. Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
I point out the importance of the last paragraph...
"Members may not employ or retain IN ANY CAPACITY (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society."
This person being you Andrew.....
"Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
Therefore, if Andrew Miller is sharing his office with a CSIC member, like he is claiming to do in his previous post, that CSIC member is breaking the rules of professional conduct. Also if Andrew (as he claims) is employing a CSIC member (as claimed in previous posts), that CSIC member is being retaining Andrew's services "IN ANY CAPACITY" and is such breaking CSIC's regulations..
Andrew, you cant explain this away. You are clearly in breach of the rules, ironically which you have preached for so many years. We are really disappointed in you and we will be asking for a refund in due course. Especially as it is now illegal for you to liaise with the department on our behalf.
Andrew, the reason me and the missus chose your agency over the others, is because you claimed to be above board in all aspects. The other agency we were investigating was based in the UK with CSIC and Canadian Law Society Membership... Now it turns out that you have neither, and the appropriate authorities advise AGAINST dealing with you.
How can you possibly justify this?
-Very Upset, Mike
:curse:
Nov 12th 2008, 10:31 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
I'm sorry.. But am I the only one concerned about this?
I have been a long time reader, but never a poster. We never bothered signing up, because we believed in Andrew, and we contacted him directly after reading his answers on here.
For the past 13 months, We have been in contact with Andrew Miller regarding our move and frequently he has assured us that we have the consumer protection of CSIC. If you re-read his posts over the last 3 - 4 years he has constantly drummed home the consumer protection aspect of CSIC.. Now that it doesn't suit his business, he seems to totally distance himself from this organization, despite the many years of support and postings he has made about them.
Time and time again Andrew, you have stated the importance of using a CSIC REGISTERED AGENT. Now you are basically saying its all cr*p. What protection do I have if I decide to use your company, and we fall into dispute over the services provided??
NONE.
What does CSIC say about working with a suspended member???
http://www.csic-scci.ca/content/Workingwithasuspended
"A Member who has been suspended or revoked as a result of the discipline process is not entitled to hold herself or himself out as a Society member and is not entitled to act as an authorized representative. He or she may not represent, advise, or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board, for a fee (in accordance with section 2 and subsection 13.1 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations).
Also, in accordance with Rule 3.7 of the Rules of Professional Conduct, Members may not employ or retain in any capacity (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society. Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
I point out the importance of the last paragraph...
"Members may not employ or retain IN ANY CAPACITY (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society."
This person being you Andrew.....
"Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
Therefore, if Andrew Miller is sharing his office with a CSIC member, like he is claiming to do in his previous post, that CSIC member is breaking the rules of professional conduct. Also if Andrew (as he claims) is employing a CSIC member (as claimed in previous posts), that CSIC member is being retaining Andrew's services "IN ANY CAPACITY" and is such breaking CSIC's regulations..
Andrew, you cant explain this away. You are clearly in breach of the rules, ironically which you have preached for so many years. We are really disappointed in you and we will be asking for a refund in due course. Especially as it is now illegal for you to liaise with the department on our behalf.
Andrew, the reason me and the missus chose your agency over the others, is because you claimed to be above board in all aspects. The other agency we were investigating was based in the UK with CSIC and Canadian Law Society Membership... Now it turns out that you have neither, and the appropriate authorities advise AGAINST dealing with you.
How can you possibly justify this?
-Very Upset, Mike
:curse:
I have been a long time reader, but never a poster. We never bothered signing up, because we believed in Andrew, and we contacted him directly after reading his answers on here.
For the past 13 months, We have been in contact with Andrew Miller regarding our move and frequently he has assured us that we have the consumer protection of CSIC. If you re-read his posts over the last 3 - 4 years he has constantly drummed home the consumer protection aspect of CSIC.. Now that it doesn't suit his business, he seems to totally distance himself from this organization, despite the many years of support and postings he has made about them.
Time and time again Andrew, you have stated the importance of using a CSIC REGISTERED AGENT. Now you are basically saying its all cr*p. What protection do I have if I decide to use your company, and we fall into dispute over the services provided??
NONE.
What does CSIC say about working with a suspended member???
http://www.csic-scci.ca/content/Workingwithasuspended
"A Member who has been suspended or revoked as a result of the discipline process is not entitled to hold herself or himself out as a Society member and is not entitled to act as an authorized representative. He or she may not represent, advise, or consult with a person who is the subject of a proceeding or application before the Minister, an officer or the Board, for a fee (in accordance with section 2 and subsection 13.1 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations).
Also, in accordance with Rule 3.7 of the Rules of Professional Conduct, Members may not employ or retain in any capacity (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society. Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
I point out the importance of the last paragraph...
"Members may not employ or retain IN ANY CAPACITY (having to do with the practice of Immigration law) a person whose membership or registration has been removed or suspended by the Society, except with the written permission of the Society."
This person being you Andrew.....
"Further, Members may not share space or be a partner or associate with such a person, except with the written permission of the Society."
Therefore, if Andrew Miller is sharing his office with a CSIC member, like he is claiming to do in his previous post, that CSIC member is breaking the rules of professional conduct. Also if Andrew (as he claims) is employing a CSIC member (as claimed in previous posts), that CSIC member is being retaining Andrew's services "IN ANY CAPACITY" and is such breaking CSIC's regulations..
Andrew, you cant explain this away. You are clearly in breach of the rules, ironically which you have preached for so many years. We are really disappointed in you and we will be asking for a refund in due course. Especially as it is now illegal for you to liaise with the department on our behalf.
Andrew, the reason me and the missus chose your agency over the others, is because you claimed to be above board in all aspects. The other agency we were investigating was based in the UK with CSIC and Canadian Law Society Membership... Now it turns out that you have neither, and the appropriate authorities advise AGAINST dealing with you.
How can you possibly justify this?
-Very Upset, Mike
:curse:I see your point although what if Andrew has written permission of the society. Wouldn't that still make it ok to carry on practicing? If not then I certainly see your concern.
Nov 12th 2008, 10:35 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
guys, if Canadian Government is not doing anything to protect interest of all potential immigrants, what is the point to use any representatives?
it now seems DIY(DO IT YOURSELF) is the only option and i kindly suggest, before submitting your application, read the application guides a few times, fill out forms accordingly and in case you have any questions, email/ get int touch with visa ports in your region.
Good luck!
it now seems DIY(DO IT YOURSELF) is the only option and i kindly suggest, before submitting your application, read the application guides a few times, fill out forms accordingly and in case you have any questions, email/ get int touch with visa ports in your region.
Good luck!
Nov 12th 2008, 10:36 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
If that were the case why doesnt he state that, surely that would be the best plan of action!
Nov 12th 2008, 10:37 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
guys, if Canadian Government is not doing anything to protect interest of all potential immigrants, what is the point to use any representatives?
it now seems DIY(DO IT YOURSELF) is the only option and i kindly suggest, before submitting your application, read the application guides a few times, fill out forms accordingly and in case you have any questions, email/ get int touch with visa ports in your region.
Good luck!
it now seems DIY(DO IT YOURSELF) is the only option and i kindly suggest, before submitting your application, read the application guides a few times, fill out forms accordingly and in case you have any questions, email/ get int touch with visa ports in your region.
Good luck!
Your not wrong
Nov 12th 2008, 10:57 pm
#29
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Posts: 151
Re: ANDREW MILLER
guys, if Canadian Government is not doing anything to protect interest of all potential immigrants, what is the point to use any representatives?
it now seems DIY(DO IT YOURSELF) is the only option and i kindly suggest, before submitting your application, read the application guides a few times, fill out forms accordingly and in case you have any questions, email/ get int touch with visa ports in your region.
Good luck!
it now seems DIY(DO IT YOURSELF) is the only option and i kindly suggest, before submitting your application, read the application guides a few times, fill out forms accordingly and in case you have any questions, email/ get int touch with visa ports in your region.
Good luck!
Nov 12th 2008, 11:09 pm
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Re: ANDREW MILLER
Ohh just read the rest of the posts and wwwooooowwww!!!!
I have checked out what the rules are and it's correct, so Andrew we need some answers.
Please reply and explain to us all what is happening.
Carl
I have checked out what the rules are and it's correct, so Andrew we need some answers.
Please reply and explain to us all what is happening.
Carl