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Am I eligible for a permanent move to Canada?

Old Jun 2nd 2018, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Kswift
Right, that's definitely something I didn't take into account with my plan. Maybe we will have to consider IEC. I'll speak to the wife when I'm back from work, thanks again DigitalGhost
You're welcome mate. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.
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You're welcome mate. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.
Right, spoken to the wife and we're going to put our names in the hat for IEC and see what happens.

We'll stick to the plan for now and if one or both of us get selected we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Now looking into career breaks with my force to see what their criteria is in the event we do get lucky.
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Right, spoken to the wife and we're going to put our names in the hat for IEC and see what happens.

We'll stick to the plan for now and if one or both of us get selected we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Now looking into career breaks with my force to see what their criteria is in the event we do get lucky.
Good for you and good luck. Keep us all posted on how everything goes
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Default Re: Am I eligible for a permanent move to Canada?

Originally Posted by Kswift
Thank you all for your input you have been extraordinarily helpful.

At this time it would appear that I am not eligible with my current circumstances. The work visa option is there but probably too much of a risk with my family life balance at this time. Also, we don't think we'd consider anywhere but Canada at this time.

My wife is looking to upgrade her qualification to a degree and possibly specialise further to become qualified as an occupational therapist. This has always been on her agenda but we also believe that this should benefit us greatly in our quest to move to Canada.

In the meantime I'll just pray that the Police forces over there will start recruiting internationally again.

Failing this, hopefully within the next 5 years or soso we' be able to make the jump with my wife the principal candidate.

If it happens I'll be sure to post about it and thank you all again for your input.

Please, please use the CRS tool and report back what points you are gaining for each section (assume you have full marks for English testing) - I think you may be miscalculating, plus what the 'IC' said in his email appeared to confirm this.

If you have worked in a skilled job (Police Officer) for 5 years, then you have 5 years skilled work experience. Do it first with you as the Principal Applicant, then again with your wife as the PA... then post the points here. You are young, with an education.. let us at least go over the points with you, to be absolutely sure and see where you may be 'short (and potentially could find a way to add some) before you give up!


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Default Re: Am I eligible for a permanent move to Canada?

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Please, please use the CRS tool and report back what points you are gaining for each section (assume you have full marks for English testing) - I think you may be miscalculating, plus what the 'IC' said in his email appeared to confirm this.

If you have worked in a skilled job (Police Officer) for 5 years, then you have 5 years skilled work experience. Do it first with you as the Principal Applicant, then again with your wife as the PA... then post the points here. You are young, with an education.. let us at least go over the points with you, to be absolutely sure and see where you may be 'short (and potentially could find a way to add some) before you give up!


Ok, I've gone back to the CRS tool and found that my both my result and my wife's (as the principal) is 421.

Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 319
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 27
Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 75
Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 421

That is with us both scoring top marks in the IELTS (7-9).

If we assume that my wife upgrades her qualification next year and make her the principal candidate, with again scoring top marks in the IELTS it boosts us to 442.

Would this just about be enough? I saw the latest figures that people were successful withe scores of 441?


Also very quickly 😅 my wife is worried about getting jobs that would be able to fund and support the life that we are after.

She has a degree in care practice and I have a Police sciences diploma, from what I can see these would count for little in Canada. In addition to this, from what we can see most jobs there need qualifications or experience in the specific field.
There are several jobs that are the same of similar to my wifes job as a support worker.
My wife obviously has experience as a support worker, but would this experience count for anything in Canada. Would experience as a Police officer get me anywhere atall?

When I get to full pay in a few years time we will be getting in excess of £50,000 (including my wife's part time wage). However, we live in Wales and things are pretty cheap here. So we live pretty comfortably.

The sort of jobs my wife has been looking at (support worker in Alberta area) tend to be offering $18 an hour.
Are there any jobs available for myself that would provide me a decent wage with no qualifications or exoexperie needed (eventually I may look at law enforcement).

With cost of living there would this be enough to give us a good enough quality of life? This is what we would be moving for, a better quality of life.

We have tried to do research into this but hoping that someone here could shed some more light on their experiences.
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Default Re: Am I eligible for a permanent move to Canada?

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Ok, I've gone back to the CRS tool and found that my both my result and my wife's (as the principal) is 421.

Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 319
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 27
Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 75
Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 421

That is with us both scoring top marks in the IELTS (7-9).

If we assume that my wife upgrades her qualification next year and make her the principal candidate, with again scoring top marks in the IELTS it boosts us to 442.

Would this just about be enough? I saw the latest figures that people were successful withe scores of 441?
You can see all the previous draws on the CIC website, but 442 would be enough going on recent draws. Of course, scores may drop, and personally even at 421 I'd say it's worth getting in the pool just in case. Just to clarify though, if you scored 7 on your IELTS that wouldn't be top marks - if you've put in 7 as your assumed marks, you've lost a potential 25 points. So if you've put 7 as your assumed marks for the points test, try redoing the points test aiming for top marks, as that would make a big difference and change your chances.

FWIW, I completely agree with Digital Ghost and wouldn't advise you leave it until next year to apply, there's no point in waiting if you have IEC as an option open to you. You won't get a visa in this year's program, but if you're in the pool as soon as the 2019 program opens you would probably get lucky. Given how often CIC change the immigration rules, and how the points threshold could increase, I wouldn't be risking waiting based a future qualification.

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Also very quickly ������ my wife is worried about getting jobs that would be able to fund and support the life that we are after.

She has a degree in care practice and I have a Police sciences diploma, from what I can see these would count for little in Canada. In addition to this, from what we can see most jobs there need qualifications or experience in the specific field.
There are several jobs that are the same of similar to my wifes job as a support worker.
My wife obviously has experience as a support worker, but would this experience count for anything in Canada. Would experience as a Police officer get me anywhere atall?

When I get to full pay in a few years time we will be getting in excess of £50,000 (including my wife's part time wage). However, we live in Wales and things are pretty cheap here. So we live pretty comfortably.

The sort of jobs my wife has been looking at (support worker in Alberta area) tend to be offering $18 an hour.
Are there any jobs available for myself that would provide me a decent wage with no qualifications or exoexperie needed (eventually I may look at law enforcement).

With cost of living there would this be enough to give us a good enough quality of life? This is what we would be moving for, a better quality of life.
Honestly? No way in hell I'd go from £50k a year in Wales to approx $35,000 (£20k) in Canada, plus whatever wage you can get. Cost of living in Canada is usually said on the forums to be about the same in Canada as in the UK, recently quite a few people have been saying the UK is cheaper. So given you'll have to spend £25-30k ish (assuming no kids) to get there and set up your new life, going for a job at $18ph would be tough IMO, and it'll take you a long time to recoup your moving costs. $18ph is barely more than minimum wage in AB, and wouldn't give you much of a life IMO, unless you'll be taking a lot of equity from a UK home so that you can be mortgage free in Canada? But best thing to do is start a new thread in the main forums about salary/cost of living etc, as it'll get lost tacked on the end of a thread about visas in the immi section. Hopefully the good folks in Alberta will be able to tell you what sort of wage would give you a decent life, and if you do a search you'll probably find quite a few relevant threads from others who've asked the question.

HTH, best of luck.
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Default Re: Am I eligible for a permanent move to Canada?

Originally Posted by Kswift
Ok, I've gone back to the CRS tool and found that my both my result and my wife's (as the principal) is 421.

Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 319
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 27
Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 75
Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 421

That is with us both scoring top marks in the IELTS (7-9).

If we assume that my wife upgrades her qualification next year and make her the principal candidate, with again scoring top marks in the IELTS it boosts us to 442.

Would this just about be enough? I saw the latest figures that people were successful withe scores of 441?


Also very quickly � ���� my wife is worried about getting jobs that would be able to fund and support the life that we are after.

She has a degree in care practice and I have a Police sciences diploma, from what I can see these would count for little in Canada. In addition to this, from what we can see most jobs there need qualifications or experience in the specific field.
There are several jobs that are the same of similar to my wifes job as a support worker.
My wife obviously has experience as a support worker, but would this experience count for anything in Canada. Would experience as a Police officer get me anywhere atall?

When I get to full pay in a few years time we will be getting in excess of £50,000 (including my wife's part time wage). However, we live in Wales and things are pretty cheap here. So we live pretty comfortably.

The sort of jobs my wife has been looking at (support worker in Alberta area) tend to be offering $18 an hour.
Are there any jobs available for myself that would provide me a decent wage with no qualifications or exoexperie needed (eventually I may look at law enforcement).

With cost of living there would this be enough to give us a good enough quality of life? This is what we would be moving for, a better quality of life.

We have tried to do research into this but hoping that someone here could shed some more light on their experiences.

But how did you reach the
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 319 ??? That's the big question and where you may be missing points that can make the difference. As Christmasoompa said, it looks like you have already deducted points unnecessarily for English testing levels - remember I said "Assume TOP marks" ?


Please jot down the points for each and every section, not just the 'headlines totals'
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But how did you reach the
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 319 ??? That's the big question and where you may be missing points that can make the difference. As Christmasoompa said, it looks like you have already deducted points unnecessarily for English testing levels - remember I said "Assume TOP marks" ?


Please jot down the points for each and every section, not just the 'headlines totals'

Ok just to confirm, I put the top marks in the English tests what I meant by the scores was that, some were banded 7.5-9 as the top score. I made sure to go with the highest scores. Here's the full breakdown.Core/Human capital factors
  • Age = 100
  • Level of education = 91
  • Study in Canada = undefined
  • Official Languages = 128
    • First Official Language = 128
    • Second Official Language = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 319Spouse factors
  • Level of education = 7
  • First Official Languages = 20
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 27Skill transferability factors

Education
  • A) Official Language proficiency and education = 25
  • B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 25Foreign work experience
  • A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 50
  • B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 0
Subtotal = 50

Certificate of qualification = 0

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 75Comprehensive Ranking System formula

Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 421

Provincial nomination = 0

Job offer = 0

Study in Canada = 0

Sibling in Canada = 0

French-language skills = 0

Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 421


​thanks for the info too guys, I'll start a new thread regarding jobs
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Ok just to confirm, I put the top marks in the English tests what I meant by the scores was that, some were banded 7.5-9 as the top score. I made sure to go with the highest scores. Here's the full breakdown.Core/Human capital factors
  • Age = 100
  • Level of education = 91
  • Study in Canada = undefined
  • Official Languages = 128
    • First Official Language = 128
    • Second Official Language = 0
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Core/Human capital factors = 319Spouse factors
  • Level of education = 7
  • First Official Languages = 20
  • Canadian work experience = 0
Subtotal - Spouse factors = 27Skill transferability factors

Education
  • A) Official Language proficiency and education = 25
  • B) Canadian work experience and education = 0
Subtotal = 25Foreign work experience
  • A) Official Language proficiency and foreign work experience = 50
  • B) Canadian and foreign work experience = 0
Subtotal = 50

Certificate of qualification = 0

Subtotal Skill transferability factors = 75Comprehensive Ranking System formula

Subtotal Core/Human capital + Spouse factors + Skill transferability = 421

Provincial nomination = 0

Job offer = 0

Study in Canada = 0

Sibling in Canada = 0

French-language skills = 0

Subtotal Additional points = 0

Grand total = 421


​thanks for the info too guys, I'll start a new thread regarding jobs
I would agree with Christmasoompa entirely. She's a very highly respected and helpful member on this forum and has given me some great advice on numerous occasions.

​​​​​​In your situation, IEC really is a golden ticket. You can both get to Canada and work in almost any job you want, assuming you were both picked in the 2019 draw. There's no medical or language tests to worry about and it would give you a clue as to whether or not you Canada is really for you in the long term.

If you still think that PR is something you want to pursue though then get yourselves in the pool with that 421 as well. You could get a PNP invite from Ontario or one of the other provinces with that score and there's no legal rule that I know of that says you can't be in the EE and IEC pools at the same time.

Best of luck.
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