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Old Jan 16th 2002, 6:24 am
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I am just wondering how a formal job offer letter should look in order to get those
very precious 5 points. Any reply will be highly appreciated. Thank you Jane
 
Old Jan 16th 2002, 7:23 am
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Your prospective employer should know how to prepare the offer of employment, it is
not your problem. Offer has to be a genuine one, from a legitimate employer and
verifiable.

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Old Jan 17th 2002, 12:24 pm
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I think getting a job offer to earn extra 5 points is pretty difficult since it needs
to be a genuine job offer valid upon entering Canada and have not received points
under Factor 5 (Arranged Employment).

Let's say your immigration process takes 6 to 18 months. I don't think many companies
are willing to wait for 6+ months to hire you. Am I correct?

Akira

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[usenetquote2]> > I am just wondering how a formal job offer letter should look in order to[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Thank you Jane[/usenetquote2]
 
Old Jan 17th 2002, 12:41 pm
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It remains to be seen. I believe it was James Metcalfe in this group predicting not
long ago that a new "industry" will be created to supply "job offers" to cover the
huge demand for such created by new regulations and I totally agree with that
prediction. Just wait and watch...

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"akiyomiya" <[email protected]>
[usenetquote2]> > Your prospective employer should know how to prepare the offer of[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > it is not your problem. Offer has to be a genuine one, from a legitimate employer[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > and verifiable.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > those very precious 5 points. Any reply will be highly appreciated. Thank you[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Jane[/usenetquote2]
 
Old Jan 17th 2002, 1:30 pm
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Mikhail Ivanov
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I think this option works only for people, who is aready working in Canada.

"akiyomiya" <[email protected]>
[usenetquote2]> > Your prospective employer should know how to prepare the offer of[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > it is not your problem. Offer has to be a genuine one, from a legitimate employer[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > and verifiable.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > sending email)[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > I am just wondering how a formal job offer letter should look in order to get[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > those very precious 5 points. Any reply will be highly appreciated. Thank you[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Jane[/usenetquote2]
 
Old Jan 17th 2002, 1:37 pm
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People who are already legally working in Canada with EA will get 10 points for
arranged employment if their EA is valid for at least another 12 months past the day
of immigration application - in such case they will not get additional 5 points for
non-validated job offer.

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[usenetquote2]> > > employer and verifiable.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > sending email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > >[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > I am just wondering how a formal job offer letter should look in order to get[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > those very precious 5 points. Any reply will be highly appreciated. Thank you[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > Jane[/usenetquote2]
 
Old Jan 18th 2002, 1:56 am
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Mikhail Ivanov
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Hi!

My point is - I can't imagine company which will wait till candidate get LP - it is
more then 3 years, in average. If company hardly needs somebody - they will try to
obtain working permit, instead. So, these points are practically useless for people
abroad. May be small family companies can do it for relatives and friends, remaining
outside Canada.

"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]>
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[usenetquote2]> > employment,[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > it is not your problem. Offer has to be a genuine one, from a[/usenetquote2]
legitimate
[usenetquote2]> > > > employer and verifiable.[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > [email protected] (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > sending email)[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > ________________________________[/usenetquote2]
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[usenetquote2]> > > > > I am just wondering how a formal job offer letter should look in[/usenetquote2]
order
[usenetquote2]> > > > > to get those very precious 5 points. Any reply will be highly appreciated.[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > > > > Thank you Jane[/usenetquote2]
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Old Jan 18th 2002, 4:46 am
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And that is why some experts have posted, if I recall correctly, the "new industry"
will be setup. My interpretation on this point is that there might be many companies
emerging and offering "job offers" to those potentional immigrants, and of course,
for a certain amount of service charge. Dark ages.

James
 
Old Jan 18th 2002, 5:06 am
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Your interpretation is correct as new rules just created a demand for non-validated
job offers and there is no doubt in my mind that potential "suppliers" of such are
already gearing up for a jackpot here. We have to wait for Immigration Manual to see
what instructions and guidelines will be given to processing officers assessing such
job offers. My bet is on something similar to proving bona fide of the relationship
in spousal or fiancée applications, as a simple job offer letter without any proven
background and prior communication between employer and potential employee will for
sure be questionable.

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Old Jan 18th 2002, 6:20 am
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James,

Processing officers will not be verifying such job offers themselves. Most likely
the verification request will be forwarded to HRDC as they have the tools, expertise
and experience in such verification or authentication. Processing officer for
example in Buenos Aires or Damascus has no ways to find out if job offering a
programmer's or engineering position came from software company or from the corner
barber shop - but HRDC can make such verification quite easy as they have access to
the database of employers. And yes, it may cause more delays in the process of cases
with such job offers.

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Old Jan 18th 2002, 6:36 am
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P.S.

The process may be exactly the same as already used for few years now to verify job
offers for pilot program for software professionals which don't need to be
individually validated by HRDC - visa post sends a request to HRDC for the
authentication or verification of such job offer before issuing EA.

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[usenetquote2]> > And I guess that kind of assessment might significantly prolong the case[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > processing time, if the Visa Officer do want to enforce the new rule correctly[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > and effectively. And I think a new computer system must be introduced to help[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > track the job offers provided by each employer. Just think about a small employer[/usenetquote2]
[usenetquote2]> > might send out hundreds of job offers... How can a Visa Officer assess this in a[/usenetquote2]
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