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Old Sep 8th 2003, 8:57 am
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Peter
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Hello experts,

On some applications you are asked about your visits to Canada (arrival
dates, duration) Isn't this info recorded by immigration anyway? When one
enters Canada (especially by plane) you are always given a customs
declaration form where you have to put you name and you date of birth, etc.
(actually even before your arrival an airline sends your info straight to
Canada customs and immigration) And when you leave Canada an airline
collects the same information from you passport and pass it on to the
immigration. So, basically big brother knows when and where you entered
Canada, how many days you have stayed, etc.
Please, correct me if I am wrong!
Any info is appreciated,
Peter
P.S. How long this visitor tracking has been in place?
 
Old Sep 8th 2003, 9:43 am
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Andrew Miller
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Yes, "big brother" knows if they want to look into it. But they don't need
to because they are asking you for the info, so it saves them time. Of
course in some cases they want to double check and cross-reference what you
declare with their records, so better be honest and don't even think of
hiding of anything (or making up something).

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello experts,
    > On some applications you are asked about your visits to Canada (arrival
    > dates, duration) Isn't this info recorded by immigration anyway? When one
    > enters Canada (especially by plane) you are always given a customs
    > declaration form where you have to put you name and you date of birth,
etc.
    > (actually even before your arrival an airline sends your info straight to
    > Canada customs and immigration) And when you leave Canada an airline
    > collects the same information from you passport and pass it on to the
    > immigration. So, basically big brother knows when and where you entered
    > Canada, how many days you have stayed, etc.
    > Please, correct me if I am wrong!
    > Any info is appreciated,
    > Peter
    > P.S. How long this visitor tracking has been in place?
 
Old Sep 8th 2003, 12:01 pm
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Peter
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Thank you, for your kind response,

Though, how long this visitor tracking has been in place,

and for how many years they would save the record?

Thank you in advance,

Peter







"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]...
    > Yes, "big brother" knows if they want to look into it. But they don't need
    > to because they are asking you for the info, so it saves them time. Of
    > course in some cases they want to double check and cross-reference what
you
    > declare with their records, so better be honest and don't even think of
    > hiding of anything (or making up something).
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello experts,
    > >
    > > On some applications you are asked about your visits to Canada (arrival
    > > dates, duration) Isn't this info recorded by immigration anyway? When
one
    > > enters Canada (especially by plane) you are always given a customs
    > > declaration form where you have to put you name and you date of birth,
    > etc.
    > > (actually even before your arrival an airline sends your info straight
to
    > > Canada customs and immigration) And when you leave Canada an airline
    > > collects the same information from you passport and pass it on to the
    > > immigration. So, basically big brother knows when and where you entered
    > > Canada, how many days you have stayed, etc.
    > > Please, correct me if I am wrong!
    > > Any info is appreciated,
    > > Peter
    > > P.S. How long this visitor tracking has been in place?
    > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 8th 2003, 12:15 pm
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Andrew Miller
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Immigration records are never purged.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you, for your kind response,
    > Though, how long this visitor tracking has been in place,
    > and for how many years they would save the record?
    > Thank you in advance,
    > Peter
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:%[email protected]...
    > > Yes, "big brother" knows if they want to look into it. But they don't
need
    > > to because they are asking you for the info, so it saves them time. Of
    > > course in some cases they want to double check and cross-reference what
    > you
    > > declare with their records, so better be honest and don't even think of
    > > hiding of anything (or making up something).
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Hello experts,
    > > >
    > > > On some applications you are asked about your visits to Canada
(arrival
    > > > dates, duration) Isn't this info recorded by immigration anyway? When
    > one
    > > > enters Canada (especially by plane) you are always given a customs
    > > > declaration form where you have to put you name and you date of
birth,
    > > etc.
    > > > (actually even before your arrival an airline sends your info straight
    > to
    > > > Canada customs and immigration) And when you leave Canada an airline
    > > > collects the same information from you passport and pass it on to the
    > > > immigration. So, basically big brother knows when and where you
entered
    > > > Canada, how many days you have stayed, etc.
    > > > Please, correct me if I am wrong!
    > > > Any info is appreciated,
    > > > Peter
    > > > P.S. How long this visitor tracking has been in place?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 8th 2003, 1:50 pm
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It would take the Canadians 4 to 6 weeks to ret rive that info from their computer system, so that’s why they want it from you.
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Old Sep 8th 2003, 7:05 pm
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Thank you, Andrew, you are very kind,

Can you tell us however how far back they can trace visitors in /out dates
via YVR.

Tank you,

P.S. isn't this system very new, being put in the effect after 9/11!?





"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:kY87b.72472$kW.12186@edtnps84...
    > Immigration records are never purged.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Thank you, for your kind response,
    > >
    > > Though, how long this visitor tracking has been in place,
    > >
    > > and for how many years they would save the record?
    > >
    > > Thank you in advance,
    > >
    > > Peter
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:%[email protected]...
    > > > Yes, "big brother" knows if they want to look into it. But they don't
    > need
    > > > to because they are asking you for the info, so it saves them time. Of
    > > > course in some cases they want to double check and cross-reference
what
    > > you
    > > > declare with their records, so better be honest and don't even think
of
    > > > hiding of anything (or making up something).
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Hello experts,
    > > > >
    > > > > On some applications you are asked about your visits to Canada
    > (arrival
    > > > > dates, duration) Isn't this info recorded by immigration anyway?
When
    > > one
    > > > > enters Canada (especially by plane) you are always given a customs
    > > > > declaration form where you have to put you name and you date of
    > birth,
    > > > etc.
    > > > > (actually even before your arrival an airline sends your info
straight
    > > to
    > > > > Canada customs and immigration) And when you leave Canada an airline
    > > > > collects the same information from you passport and pass it on to
the
    > > > > immigration. So, basically big brother knows when and where you
    > entered
    > > > > Canada, how many days you have stayed, etc.
    > > > > Please, correct me if I am wrong!
    > > > > Any info is appreciated,
    > > > > Peter
    > > > > P.S. How long this visitor tracking has been in place?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 9th 2003, 2:43 am
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Andrew Miller
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It is nothing new and 9/11 has nothing to do with it.

It is you who must prove that you were present in Canada in periods claimed,
so your question is absolutely pointless.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you, Andrew, you are very kind,
    > Can you tell us however how far back they can trace visitors in /out dates
    > via YVR.
    > Tank you,
    > P.S. isn't this system very new, being put in the effect after 9/11!?
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:kY87b.72472$kW.12186@edtnps84...
    > > Immigration records are never purged.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Thank you, for your kind response,
    > > >
    > > > Though, how long this visitor tracking has been in place,
    > > >
    > > > and for how many years they would save the record?
    > > >
    > > > Thank you in advance,
    > > >
    > > > Peter
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:%[email protected]...
    > > > > Yes, "big brother" knows if they want to look into it. But they
don't
    > > need
    > > > > to because they are asking you for the info, so it saves them time.
Of
    > > > > course in some cases they want to double check and cross-reference
    > what
    > > > you
    > > > > declare with their records, so better be honest and don't even think
    > of
    > > > > hiding of anything (or making up something).
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Hello experts,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > On some applications you are asked about your visits to Canada
    > > (arrival
    > > > > > dates, duration) Isn't this info recorded by immigration anyway?
    > When
    > > > one
    > > > > > enters Canada (especially by plane) you are always given a
customs
    > > > > > declaration form where you have to put you name and you date of
    > > birth,
    > > > > etc.
    > > > > > (actually even before your arrival an airline sends your info
    > straight
    > > > to
    > > > > > Canada customs and immigration) And when you leave Canada an
airline
    > > > > > collects the same information from you passport and pass it on to
    > the
    > > > > > immigration. So, basically big brother knows when and where you
    > > entered
    > > > > > Canada, how many days you have stayed, etc.
    > > > > > Please, correct me if I am wrong!
    > > > > > Any info is appreciated,
    > > > > > Peter
    > > > > > P.S. How long this visitor tracking has been in place?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 9th 2003, 3:18 am
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Advdora
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Why are you so desperate about them knowing these details. Hope you are not
taking advantage of this group to cover-up your past mis-deeds


"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you, Andrew, you are very kind,
    > Can you tell us however how far back they can trace visitors in /out dates
    > via YVR.
    > Tank you,
    > P.S. isn't this system very new, being put in the effect after 9/11!?
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:kY87b.72472$kW.12186@edtnps84...
    > > Immigration records are never purged.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Thank you, for your kind response,
    > > >
    > > > Though, how long this visitor tracking has been in place,
    > > >
    > > > and for how many years they would save the record?
    > > >
    > > > Thank you in advance,
    > > >
    > > > Peter
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:%[email protected]...
    > > > > Yes, "big brother" knows if they want to look into it. But they
don't
    > > need
    > > > > to because they are asking you for the info, so it saves them time.
Of
    > > > > course in some cases they want to double check and cross-reference
    > what
    > > > you
    > > > > declare with their records, so better be honest and don't even think
    > of
    > > > > hiding of anything (or making up something).
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Hello experts,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > On some applications you are asked about your visits to Canada
    > > (arrival
    > > > > > dates, duration) Isn't this info recorded by immigration anyway?
    > When
    > > > one
    > > > > > enters Canada (especially by plane) you are always given a
customs
    > > > > > declaration form where you have to put you name and you date of
    > > birth,
    > > > > etc.
    > > > > > (actually even before your arrival an airline sends your info
    > straight
    > > > to
    > > > > > Canada customs and immigration) And when you leave Canada an
airline
    > > > > > collects the same information from you passport and pass it on to
    > the
    > > > > > immigration. So, basically big brother knows when and where you
    > > entered
    > > > > > Canada, how many days you have stayed, etc.
    > > > > > Please, correct me if I am wrong!
    > > > > > Any info is appreciated,
    > > > > > Peter
    > > > > > P.S. How long this visitor tracking has been in place?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
 

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