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Old Apr 5th 2004, 6:05 pm
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Greetings,

I received my PR and will be driving to Vancouver BC next week. I understand
that they will mail the PR card only to a Canadian address one provides but
will not mail it to a Post box in Canada. Does anyone know a lawyer or agency
or business that provides a service where we can give their address for the
card to be mailed to and they in turn forward it to me? The reason I have to do
this is because I have to return to the US to complete personal business here (
selling car, house etc). I then plan to move to Canada permanantly.
Unfortunately I do not have any friends or relatives in Canada whose address I
can use. I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks.
Dave
 
Old Apr 6th 2004, 3:11 am
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It will have to be residential address - so, address of a law firm, etc.
will be a commercial one and CIC will not mail PR Card to such.

But you have 180 days (6 months) from landing to provide CIC with your
residential address. In the meantime when you are ready to finally move to
Canada you can simply apply for Travel Document through Canadian visa post.

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"Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Greetings,
    > I received my PR and will be driving to Vancouver BC next week. I
understand
    > that they will mail the PR card only to a Canadian address one provides
but
    > will not mail it to a Post box in Canada. Does anyone know a lawyer or
agency
    > or business that provides a service where we can give their address for
the
    > card to be mailed to and they in turn forward it to me? The reason I have
to do
    > this is because I have to return to the US to complete personal business
here (
    > selling car, house etc). I then plan to move to Canada permanantly.
    > Unfortunately I do not have any friends or relatives in Canada whose
address I
    > can use. I would appreciate any advice.
    > Thanks.
    > Dave
 
Old Apr 6th 2004, 4:39 am
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I have experienced the same problems and I think CIC need to review there
policy on sending PR cards to ONLY canadian addresses.

I know the whole issue of security comes up with the cards being send abroad
but perhaps they could send the cards to the embassy of the applicant if the
applicant requires this then once they are back in there own country they
could pick it up from the embassy there App was processed in.

It is annoying that we pay for the PR card out of the Visa fees but when we
need a travel document we have to pay again.




"Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Greetings,
    > I received my PR and will be driving to Vancouver BC next week. I
understand
    > that they will mail the PR card only to a Canadian address one provides
but
    > will not mail it to a Post box in Canada. Does anyone know a lawyer or
agency
    > or business that provides a service where we can give their address for
the
    > card to be mailed to and they in turn forward it to me? The reason I have
to do
    > this is because I have to return to the US to complete personal business
here (
    > selling car, house etc). I then plan to move to Canada permanantly.
    > Unfortunately I do not have any friends or relatives in Canada whose
address I
    > can use. I would appreciate any advice.
    > Thanks.
    > Dave
 
Old Apr 6th 2004, 4:44 am
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It is not CIC policy - it is the law:

http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor2-227/sec55.html

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Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"AJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I have experienced the same problems and I think CIC need to review there
    > policy on sending PR cards to ONLY canadian addresses.
    > I know the whole issue of security comes up with the cards being send
abroad
    > but perhaps they could send the cards to the embassy of the applicant if
the
    > applicant requires this then once they are back in there own country they
    > could pick it up from the embassy there App was processed in.
    > It is annoying that we pay for the PR card out of the Visa fees but when
we
    > need a travel document we have to pay again.
    > "Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Greetings,
    > >
    > > I received my PR and will be driving to Vancouver BC next week. I
    > understand
    > > that they will mail the PR card only to a Canadian address one provides
    > but
    > > will not mail it to a Post box in Canada. Does anyone know a lawyer or
    > agency
    > > or business that provides a service where we can give their address for
    > the
    > > card to be mailed to and they in turn forward it to me? The reason I
have
    > to do
    > > this is because I have to return to the US to complete personal business
    > here (
    > > selling car, house etc). I then plan to move to Canada permanantly.
    > > Unfortunately I do not have any friends or relatives in Canada whose
    > address I
    > > can use. I would appreciate any advice.
    > >
    > > Thanks.
    > > Dave
 
Old Apr 6th 2004, 7:40 pm
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in a recent article, AJ ([email protected]) said:

    > I have experienced the same problems and I think CIC need to review there
    > policy on sending PR cards to ONLY canadian addresses.
I agree. It should be reviewed so the person has to pick up the card
personally, with no mail-outs. The belief is that when people are landing,
they are coming here TO STAY, not hang out for a couple of days and then
take off back to the USA or wherever for months or even years on end. PR in
Canada isn't a right. It's a privilege and if you don't plan on moving here
within a very reasonable time, then don't bother applying - or withdraw your
application.

And yes, I was able to organise a move from another continent,
reorganise my life, resign from my job and move to Canada in about 4 months
after receiving my docs. Therefore I talk from experience. Once my
application had been submitted, I started reducing my life to the basics.
I even rented a smaller apartment on a short-term lease and sold a large
part of my personal property I wasn't planning on taking with me. You've
applied to live in another country. You could be approved at any time.
Don't you think it's time to start getting ready to actually move?

    > It is annoying that we pay for the PR card out of the Visa fees but when we
    > need a travel document we have to pay again.
I agree that if you have to travel for vacation etc and your card hasn't
been processed yet, you should get the document at no charge - however, this
should only be if you're actually resident in Canada.
 
Old Apr 6th 2004, 8:33 pm
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I have applied my docs in 1999 (Moscow!), and I have received visa in 2004. I was expected to sell almost everything 4 years ago, you mean?

So, I had patience, and I waited almost 5 years. Now, I think I can expect, that Canada also will have some amount of patience and tolerance, and wait half a year or so for me to come.

Once my
application had been submitted, I started reducing my life to the basics.
I even rented a smaller apartment on a short-term lease and sold a large
part of my personal property I wasn't planning on taking with me. You've
applied to live in another country. You could be approved at any time.
Don't you think it's time to start getting ready to actually move?
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Old Apr 6th 2004, 9:11 pm
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Originally posted by Goggy

So, I had patience, and I waited almost 5 years. Now, I think I can expect, that Canada also will have some amount of patience and tolerance, and wait half a year or so for me to come.

Maybe you have a valid point but we are all asking Canada to let us live there rather than the other way around so it means that we have to go along with all the regulations that the authorities wish to apply whether it's convenient or not. If we don't like it we do have a choice of applying or not applying.
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Old Apr 6th 2004, 10:44 pm
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Some of what you stay is correct but maybe you don't have children which can
cause delays in settling.

Why do CIC give applicant 3 years out of 5 to maintain there PR status. Not
everyone puts there life on hold to go to another country esp if they have
children etc.
I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee.

You make it sound as if you can immigrate at the drop of a hat it take time
and planning.

But everyones different and if you can immigrate to your choosen country
sooner than later than good luck to you.




"Trikky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > in a recent article, AJ ([email protected]) said:
    > > I have experienced the same problems and I think CIC need to review
there
    > > policy on sending PR cards to ONLY canadian addresses.
    > I agree. It should be reviewed so the person has to pick up the card
    > personally, with no mail-outs. The belief is that when people are
landing,
    > they are coming here TO STAY, not hang out for a couple of days and then
    > take off back to the USA or wherever for months or even years on end. PR
in
    > Canada isn't a right. It's a privilege and if you don't plan on moving
here
    > within a very reasonable time, then don't bother applying - or withdraw
your
    > application.
    > And yes, I was able to organise a move from another continent,
    > reorganise my life, resign from my job and move to Canada in about 4
months
    > after receiving my docs. Therefore I talk from experience. Once my
    > application had been submitted, I started reducing my life to the basics.
    > I even rented a smaller apartment on a short-term lease and sold a large
    > part of my personal property I wasn't planning on taking with me. You've
    > applied to live in another country. You could be approved at any time.
    > Don't you think it's time to start getting ready to actually move?
    > > It is annoying that we pay for the PR card out of the Visa fees but when
we
    > > need a travel document we have to pay again.
    > I agree that if you have to travel for vacation etc and your card
hasn't
    > been processed yet, you should get the document at no charge - however,
this
    > should only be if you're actually resident in Canada.
 
Old Apr 7th 2004, 12:31 am
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Not only we are asking Canada to let us live there, but also Canada asks us to come, because Canada needs new immigrants. It's not just charity, it's mutual benefit. We are, potentially, partners of Canada, contributors to the national economy, taxpayers. Then, why not create more convenient conditions for us?

It is nothing bad to Canada, if I will come not immediately, but 1 year later. Moreover, if I will change my mind and will not come at all, Canada will lose nothing - I have paid the processing fee, I have paid "Right of Landing fee", everything is fair.

Originally posted by stepnek
Maybe you have a valid point but we are all asking Canada to let us live there rather than the other way around so it means that we have to go along with all the regulations that the authorities wish to apply whether it's convenient or not. If we don't like it we do have a choice of applying or not applying.
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Old Apr 7th 2004, 3:18 am
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Hi Dave, I have read about many people with that problem in this
forum, and I will have it too when I move. So, would it be possible
for somebody already in Canada to offer the mail forwarding service as
a favor to its fellow immigrants, or maybe for a fee? Would that be
illegal? Andrew?
Eduardo
 
Old Apr 7th 2004, 3:24 am
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in a recent article, AJ ([email protected]) said:

    > You make it sound as if you can immigrate at the drop of a hat it take time
    > and planning.

Exactly. Considering that the average immigration application now takes
about 12 months or more however, that's plenty of time to do planning - or
at least get the ball rolling.

I understand that sometimes it is impossible. But you read here of
people who plan on landing and then going back to wherever for a year or two
in order to finish school, a work contract or something else.

This is merely BAD planning. If you've applied to live in another
country, don't apply for a new university degree or sign a long-term
employment contract, for example.
 
Old Apr 7th 2004, 3:34 am
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in a recent article, Eduardo ([email protected]) said:

    > Hi Dave, I have read about many people with that problem in this
    > forum, and I will have it too when I move. So, would it be possible
    > for somebody already in Canada to offer the mail forwarding service as
    > a favor to its fellow immigrants, or maybe for a fee? Would that be
    > illegal?
I don't think it would be illegal, since people send the cards onto
their friends/relatives all the time. However, if I were a person
considering setting up this sort of service, I wouldn't hold that thought
for too long. The potential problems and civil legal vulnerabilities would
be amazing. People don't get their card - they sue you. People have their
card delayed - they sue you. People *claim* they don't get their card (for
fraudulent reasons) and you could be held responsible, or even investigated.
If there's a *hint* of impropriety, you would be the first suspect.

Certainly not worth it. Just let the cardholder be responsible.
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Old Apr 7th 2004, 4:05 am
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Originally posted by Eduardo
Hi Dave, I have read about many people with that problem in this
forum, and I will have it too when I move. So, would it be possible
for somebody already in Canada to offer the mail forwarding service as
a favor to its fellow immigrants, or maybe for a fee? Would that be
illegal? Andrew?
Eduardo

If you are coming to Toronto you can stay at

http://www.darryhouse.com

I was there my first days in Toronto. It is very convenient because you do not pay deposits or anything like that. They are very nice people and it is a residential address. I am sure they will forward you the documents once they get them. Make sure you give them enough money for DHL or FEDEX. I don't know how much they will charge you for this but it won't be too much. I am sure there is more people that offer this service. Some post their ads in this forum .

Good luck

Good luck

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Old Apr 7th 2004, 4:21 am
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Who are you to tell people how to plan their lives?. As long as what they are doing is not illegal they can do what it's best for them to do.

If you have your way to do things. It is your way period. As far as I know no one should put his life in limbo waiting for a visa especially when (according to the law) they might not get it even in the final stages if they increase the passmark.



Originally posted by Trikky
in a recent article, AJ ([email protected]) said:

    > You make it sound as if you can immigrate at the drop of a hat it take time
    > and planning.

Exactly. Considering that the average immigration application now takes
about 12 months or more however, that's plenty of time to do planning - or
at least get the ball rolling.

I understand that sometimes it is impossible. But you read here of
people who plan on landing and then going back to wherever for a year or two
in order to finish school, a work contract or something else.

This is merely BAD planning. If you've applied to live in another
country, don't apply for a new university degree or sign a long-term
employment contract, for example.
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Old Apr 7th 2004, 4:24 am
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Why bother if you have no intention to settle yet? You have 180 days (6
months) to provide CIC with valid residential address in Canada. If you need
to travel to Canada and you don't have PR Card then apply for Travel
Document.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Eduardo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Dave, I have read about many people with that problem in this
    > forum, and I will have it too when I move. So, would it be possible
    > for somebody already in Canada to offer the mail forwarding service as
    > a favor to its fellow immigrants, or maybe for a fee? Would that be
    > illegal? Andrew?
    > Eduardo
 


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