Tian

Hello folks!

I have applied for Canadian PR in July 2002 and got my AOR in Dec 16,
2002.

I applied as a skilled worker and I got a total of 75 points of which
1 point came from "Basic French".

I have very basic skills in French reading/writing and listening but
not much speaking. I have not submitted any formal proof of my French
skills in my PR application.

A friend of mine who applied a month ahead of me (and got his AOR on
Nov 11, 002) with very similar background has got his interview waiver
last weekend (Aug 22, 2003). The one difference is that he did not
have to claim any points for French. In the best case, I would like to
hear about an interview waiver for me in a month! (That would be nice
!!)

Here are my questions for anyone with input:
1) Am I at the risk of being rejected because of no proof of French
proficiency for which I claimed one point?

2) If you know any thing about the French language proficiency tests
like TEF, how hard is it to get "1" point for basic skill?

Thanks in advance,
Tian

Andrew Miller

1. No evidence of language proficiency = no points.

2. It depends from how "very basic" your skills are.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
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"Tian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello folks!
    > I have applied for Canadian PR in July 2002 and got my AOR in Dec 16,
    > 2002.
    > I applied as a skilled worker and I got a total of 75 points of which
    > 1 point came from "Basic French".
    > I have very basic skills in French reading/writing and listening but
    > not much speaking. I have not submitted any formal proof of my French
    > skills in my PR application.
    > A friend of mine who applied a month ahead of me (and got his AOR on
    > Nov 11, 002) with very similar background has got his interview waiver
    > last weekend (Aug 22, 2003). The one difference is that he did not
    > have to claim any points for French. In the best case, I would like to
    > hear about an interview waiver for me in a month! (That would be nice
    > !!)
    > Here are my questions for anyone with input:
    > 1) Am I at the risk of being rejected because of no proof of French
    > proficiency for which I claimed one point?
    > 2) If you know any thing about the French language proficiency tests
    > like TEF, how hard is it to get "1" point for basic skill?
    > Thanks in advance,
    > Tian

Canwanna

Your Friend seems to have received interview waiver in just 9 months. Could
you please share, where did you apply ?

"Tian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello folks!
    > I have applied for Canadian PR in July 2002 and got my AOR in Dec 16,
    > 2002.
    > I applied as a skilled worker and I got a total of 75 points of which
    > 1 point came from "Basic French".
    > I have very basic skills in French reading/writing and listening but
    > not much speaking. I have not submitted any formal proof of my French
    > skills in my PR application.
    > A friend of mine who applied a month ahead of me (and got his AOR on
    > Nov 11, 002) with very similar background has got his interview waiver
    > last weekend (Aug 22, 2003). The one difference is that he did not
    > have to claim any points for French. In the best case, I would like to
    > hear about an interview waiver for me in a month! (That would be nice
    > !!)
    > Here are my questions for anyone with input:
    > 1) Am I at the risk of being rejected because of no proof of French
    > proficiency for which I claimed one point?
    > 2) If you know any thing about the French language proficiency tests
    > like TEF, how hard is it to get "1" point for basic skill?
    > Thanks in advance,
    > Tian

Bocondo Williams

Hi Tian,
Can you please let me know when your friend has applied? Did he apply
in May or April? If you can give the date also it could be very
helpful.

[email protected] (Tian) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > Hello folks!
    >
    > I have applied for Canadian PR in July 2002 and got my AOR in Dec 16,
    > 2002.
    >
    > I applied as a skilled worker and I got a total of 75 points of which
    > 1 point came from "Basic French".
    >
    > I have very basic skills in French reading/writing and listening but
    > not much speaking. I have not submitted any formal proof of my French
    > skills in my PR application.
    >
    > A friend of mine who applied a month ahead of me (and got his AOR on
    > Nov 11, 002) with very similar background has got his interview waiver
    > last weekend (Aug 22, 2003). The one difference is that he did not
    > have to claim any points for French. In the best case, I would like to
    > hear about an interview waiver for me in a month! (That would be nice
    > !!)
    >
    > Here are my questions for anyone with input:
    > 1) Am I at the risk of being rejected because of no proof of French
    > proficiency for which I claimed one point?
    >
    > 2) If you know any thing about the French language proficiency tests
    > like TEF, how hard is it to get "1" point for basic skill?
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    > Tian

Wib

the tef is not that hard. i took french in highschool for 5 years
which is about 18 years ago...before the test i took an intensive
class (40 hours in 2 weeks) and had a book and cds to prepare myself
for the listening part. reading/listening wasn't hard at all, i'm
positive i made enough points for moderate, writing was OK (i think it
really depends on the topic), speaking was a disaster but fun...i
guess it was good enough for basic.




"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]> ...
    > 1. No evidence of language proficiency = no points.
    >
    > 2. It depends from how "very basic" your skills are.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "Tian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello folks!
    > >
    > > I have applied for Canadian PR in July 2002 and got my AOR in Dec 16,
    > > 2002.
    > >
    > > I applied as a skilled worker and I got a total of 75 points of which
    > > 1 point came from "Basic French".
    > >
    > > I have very basic skills in French reading/writing and listening but
    > > not much speaking. I have not submitted any formal proof of my French
    > > ski
lls in my PR application.
    > >
    > > A friend of mine who applied a month ahead of me (and got his AOR on
    > > Nov 11, 002) with very similar background has got his interview waiver
    > > last weekend (Aug 22, 2003). The one difference is that he did not
    > > have to claim any points for French. In the best case, I would like to
    > > hear about an interview waiver for me in a month! (That would be nice
    > > !!)
    > >
    > > Here are my questions for anyone with input:
    > > 1) Am I at the risk of being rejected because of no proof of French
    > > proficiency for which I claimed one point?
    > >
    > > 2) If you know any thing about the French language proficiency tests
    > > like TEF, how hard is it to get "1" point for basic skill?
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance,
    > > Tian

MarkS

I recently took the TEF and found it rather hard. They use a negative marking scheme so that you cannot guess any answers. The listening test is very hard, they never repeat the questions and it goes at lightning pace. We were on question 3 before I realised what was going on. I took a french course beforehand but it didn't help that much I barely made half the points needed to get 1 or 2 extra points for PR application.

Good luck.

Tian

    >>Your Friend seems to have received interview waiver in just 9
months. Could
you please share, where did you apply ?
Answer: We applied thru Buffalo, NY ... ( My app was posted on July 5,
2002. My friend's end of April 2002).

Mr. Miller,
The next step I am looking for is to ask my company to transfer me to
our Vancouver offices (which is the destination in my PR.)

Just to give some background:
I have brought forth this transfer issue before applying for my PR and
my management did not think I need to worry about my immigration stuff
at that moment!

I told my manager this whole process is going to take about 2 years
and so it's not as if I need to transfer immediately.

Here's my question:
I have heard that after an interview waiver, it takes on average 4-6
months to get the Visa. After receiving the visa, does the new
immigrant have a few months before moving to Canada? If so, how many
months?

Since I have not received any (waiver etc) thing from the Consulate so
far, if the whole process of (potentially) settling down in Canada
takes at least a year, I can persuade my management to give me a
letter. Basically, they dont want me to transfer right away. One year
from now, possible.

Any input is welcome!

Best Regards,
Tian

Wib

hi again,

well - the listening is not easy but since you can listen twice to the
first couple recordings and then again the longer recordings are
played twice there is a good chance that if you somehow made yourself
familiar with the language by listening to cds coming with practice
books, radio, etc...to score well for at least basic if not moderate.
also - the reading part is not difficult at all, it does deserve a
little practice but it is totally worth it if you need extra points.

MarkS <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I recently took the TEF and found it rather hard. They use a negative
    > marking scheme so that you cannot guess any answers. The listening test
    > is very hard, they never repeat the questions and it goes at lightning
    > pace. We were on question 3 before I realised what was going on. I took
    > a french course beforehand but it didn't help that much I barely made
    > half the points needed to get 1 or 2 extra points for PR application.
    >
    >
    >
    > Good luck.