Ja

Hello, My name is Joanna. I know that someone might asked you this sort of question
already, However this is my first time on your news group and it took me a hell of a
time to search for this info. Anyway, my husband and I are rally talented and high
educated people, not saying that we are still young (26 and 25 years old). He is
professional Computer Engineer (CAD/CAM/CAE) and I'm Computer Physicist (physics,
programming..). We both are planning to find a job in Canada and move there too. What
do we suppose to do now ? Of course we are aware that we would need a visa, however
what kind? "skilled worker " visa?? . Its hard to get this kind of information
here, in Poland, So if any of you would like to help us, please do it .

Thank you for your answer

Joanna M.

Mariusz F.

U¿ytkownik Ja <[email protected]> w wiadomo¶ci do grup dyskusyjnych napisa
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There is not true! Please go to Canadian Embassy and ask ( in Warsaw there are
meetings twice a month on Wednesdays 15.30).

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Alex Shlega

Hi Joanna,

you should definetely look at official immigration site: http://www.cic.gc.ca/
There is a lot of info to start from.

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You could try to find a job without immigration but that's very difficult. Try
this site:

http://www.careerclick.com

I would not advise you to spend a lot of time at this site. Just try it.. If you do
not get positive responses in a wekk or two it does not make sence try it more.
Usually you would be answered that a company is not hiring overseas.

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Best of all would be to get a permanet residence status. You should apply for PR
then.. Again, visit the official site for all details(see immigration section).
This news group is also a good source of info. But try to ask more concrete
questions

Good luck Alex http://www.airlineguides.com/immigration - Immigration Guide.
Faqs, news, etc

Ja

Ok, thanks . I tried to, and couldn't find the right person, I think. Thank you and
I will be there on coming Wednesday

Joanna M.

Gosia

Hey -

Take into account that in Canada life is poorer than in the United States. The cities
are generally grey and it is located really north.

So you will see little light during winters like in Poland. Also the winters in most
of Canada are more severe than in Poland.

The cities are modern - so none of the nice looking buildings like in Europe.
Although Warsaw itself is pretty grey as well.

A lot of people get on board of Canada and try to look for opportunities south of the
border. Immigration to the United States is much more difficult but it might still be
worth it for some people.

Good luck!

"Alex Shlega" <[email protected]>
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Berto Volpentesta

Start with the CIC site and then perhaps some of the sites of the fine = contributors
to this group such as ours, then perhaps a free assessment = and then you can
determine what steps would be right for you.

It sounds at first that you may have some of the good basic foundation = anyway.

--=20 Good luck,

Berto Volpentesta, B.A. (Spec. Hons.), B.Ed. Member, OPIC Director, OPIC and
Education Committee Chairman

Sidhu & Volpentesta Inc. Serving people around the world since 1991

www.svcanada.com

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Blindog

Warsaw is located farther north than almost any major Canadian city with the
exception of Edmonton (and Edmonton is only one degree farther north than Warsaw).
Therefore there is more daylight in the winter and - in the case of the praire
provinces - also much more sunlight.

The average January high in Warsaw is -3.8 . It is -7.0 in Toronto but +3.3 in
Vancouver. The yearly average of Warsaw and Toronto is almost identical. From my
experience in Europe, snow removal is far more efficient in any Canadian city.

Just trying a little positive spin here

BD

"Gosia" <[email protected]>
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Alexander Kornishev

Hello Joanna. I see nobody is answering your question if you should go to 'skilled
worker' part. The answer is yes, you should go to this part if you are not
self-employed.

Gosia

Blinddog -

I have been in Warsaw through one winter and I have been in the Vancouver area and
Toronto area.

Toronto and Vancouver had almost the same amount of light during winter as did
Warsaw. Toronto was colder. Although Vancouver was warmer - it rained almost non stop
and it was dark. The climate in the praires is even more severe than Toronto but
there is more sun.

The other thing you need to consider is wages. A programmer in Vancouver earns about
60,000 Canadian dollars or just barely 40,000 USD.

In Warsaw a programmer earns about 24,000 USD per year (8,000 PLN per month).
Although 8000 PLN is considered a good salary it is very achievable for someone who
speaks English and knows how to get through the crowds.

Although it looks from this that in Canada you earn more - you have to look at
purchasing power. Although I have not done specific analysis - I feel like 24,000 USD
is equivalent to some 33,000 USD in Canada. So the real difference is some 7,000 USD
per year. Considering how much effort you will have to put in to adjust, find jobs,
get new friends - I am not sure if it is worth it.

But if you look for jobs in the United States - then it is worth it more. With
careful planning of expenses you should save 50% more in the US as in Canada. Plus
there are simply more jobs there because the market in the US is much bigger. In
Poland it will look definitely more prestigious if you say you worked in the US than
in Canada.

But you also need to consider other pluses of Canada compared to the US: clean air
(which is a big change compared to Warsaw or some US cities), less crime than in the
US, society that is more open to immigrants than US and more social services.

I would say that if you are yound and ambitious - then in spite of everything - I
would choose the US. But if I wanted to have a more balanced and stable life I would
go for Canada.

Just my 2 cents on all this mess.

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Keep in mind that he's also paying his expenses in Canadian dollars. Converting a
salary from one currency to another is not a good way of measuring what type of
standard of living a person will have in a specific country. You need to know about
the local cost of living.

Stephen

Ja

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
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Joanna

Kamen Nikolov

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This winter, there is no winter in Toronto