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Old Oct 27th 2013, 4:49 pm
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you may wish to consider, depending on how old your car is and what it is worth.Under EU law your car is covered 365 days a year when out of the country (ie UK). This is the Freedom of Movement Act and it means that all insurers have to cover you no questions asked for 3rd party. An insurer can impose conditions for Comprehensive insurance hence the restrictions and higher prices charged by UK companies but cannot in any way shape or form for 3rd party cover. This is however the 3rd party that relates to the country you may have a prang in so it could be better or worse than UK 3rd party. If you have comprehensive UK cover it would lapse automatically to 3rd party when your overseas allowance (60 days or 90 whatever) is up.
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Thanks rural Hungary.

Dear fen tiger.

Thanks for stating the patently obvious. I have read through various threads and posts without getting a straight answer to the question I asked - hence the question. Sorry if asking a question bothered you so much, I thought that is what a forum is for?
I don't think Fen meant it like that. I'm assuming they meant it's a more complex issue and details, I think, are discussed on the other thread.

There are a few UK companies who offer extended foreign use add ons of up to 180 days. These work out less expensive than the specialist companies offering European cover.
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I don't think Fen meant it like that. I'm assuming they meant it's a more complex issue and details, I think, are discussed on the other thread.

There are a few UK companies who offer extended foreign use add ons of up to 180 days. These work out less expensive than the specialist companies offering European cover.
As the car isn't worth much, and I won't be too botheredif I have to replace it, I am exploring the third party only on my current policy. It's a choice of buying a car once I am in Budapest permanently before Xmas (which seem to be quite expensive by UK prices), or taking my current car and keeping it there for a while. I won't officially be resident at least to begin with, so I would be driving back to the UK every few months. My better half is a local, but she doesn't drive and has no idea about cars other than I am not allowed to own a Barkus

On the plus side I now have the Kft formed, although it is in my hungarian better half's name as it is easier to separate my UK activities from the new company, and it's less likely to be hassled by the tax authorities, but that is for a different thread.

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As the car isn't worth much, and I won't be too botheredif I have to replace it, I am exploring the third party only on my current policy. It's a choice of buying a car once I am in Budapest permanently before Xmas (which seem to be quite expensive by UK prices), or taking my current car and keeping it there for a while. I won't officially be resident at least to begin with, so I would be driving back to the UK every few months. My better half is a local, but she doesn't drive and has no idea about cars other than I am not allowed to own a Barkus

On the plus side I now have the Kft formed, although it is in my hungarian better half's name as it is easier to separate my UK activities from the new company, and it's less likely to be hassled by the tax authorities, but that is for a different thread.

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If you're going to the UK every few months, you should be okay with a UK policy and extended foreign use. The co-op, for example, only costs an extra£15 for 365 day cover and a 90 day single trip. Nationwide offers 180 day single trip and there are a couple of others. At that price, worth looking into than risking 3rd party only.
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Just thought I would let you all know how this works as we had no idea how much was involved when we started the process. It might help others or put them off completely.

We have an 8 year old transit and a 9 year old vauxhall astra. We love both the vehicles and we decided to keep them. Now the fun started.

The transit was fairly straight forward when we finally found a garage to do it. They were brilliant, and local, which was a bonus. The transit needed to be taken to Kaposvar for a Hungarian MOT. The garage checked it first then took the van to Kaposvar in the morning and we got it back in the afternoon with the MOT in place.

Next I had to call the ID/Vehicle licencing Office in Fonyod (we live in Balatonfenyves) to get an appointment to get the van papers sorted and get a licence plate. When I had the appointment, I called our insurance lady to arrange insurance for the van for the day we had to go to the Office. We just showed up, presented all the papers (original registration document, plates, Hungarian MOT, Hungarian insurance, Steve's registration card, passport and address card). We were given 3 post office cheques to pay (approximately 21000Fts) then went back and got the Hungarian Registration Document, licence plates and sticker for the windscreen. Done and dusted.
As it is a commercial vehicle, we didn't have to pay any registration fee (AKA import duty) at customs. Not the case with the car...

Car works the same way except for registration fee, which you have to pay. They work this out by looking at the age of the car and the condition of the engine (which you only get to know once the Hungarian MOT is done). We had to pay 240 000 Fts and the usual - MOT 40 000Fts, plates and documents 21 000Fts. Unfortunately after paying the post office cheques we were told they couldn't give us the plates there and then because the name vauxhall is not int heir computer base. They had to update their system but it was only the head office being able to do that. We were there on Wednesday afternoon and they said it would be a couple of days, so really hoping it will be done early next week.

By the way, apparently you cannot sell right hand drive vehicles over here. You can only bring them into the country for your own use and then sell them as spares. They only let people who OWNED the cars abroad keep them because of relocation.


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Hello Riahun, I know it's been a while but I am looking at buying a right hand drive transit (English). My problem is trying to find out how much it costs to tax and insure a ford transit each year. Lets say a normal Hungarian ford transit (like yours is now) how much is it each year.
Mine would be registered in Sarvar small town in west Hungary and registered in my wife's name (she is hungarian).I am finding it difficult to get an answer to this question sounds simple to me but when I ask a Hungarian it always seems difficult.
My other option is to keep it on British plates and register it in my name and not MOT it. I have a British friend doing this for 10 years and never had a problem and apparently it is legal as the insurance company's have to cover you 3 third party. Anyway that is another issue for another day. Just would like to Know how much it costs each year to put the transit on the road in Hungary. Thank you Wayne.
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I don't think that can be true about only people who already had the vehicle abroad being able to keep them. There is a right hand drive Mercedes Sprinter that regularly goes to the Sunday market in Nagykanizsa. The Hungarian market traders went to UK to buy it then got it registered on Hungarian plates. They said they bought 3 vans that way.
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Old Dec 24th 2013, 12:03 pm
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You can buy and sell rhd vehicles in Hungary no problem and there is a largish dealer in Szombathely who does only UK motors. However these seem to be a lot of accident damaged and many have no papers.

However rhd cars have a lower value here for obvious reasons. I have been told by a garage owner and I do not know whether it is true or not that the Insurance companies here have cottoned onto the higher accident potential and rhd premiums will rise significantly from 2014.

As to the previous threard re no MOT and you are legal. No you are not your 3rd party insurance assumes (and the same for all EU countries) that your car is road legal and having a valid MOT is an inviolable requirement. Have a prang and you are not covered. Now you are covered for taking your vehicle with an expired MOT to the nearest testing station but you must have proof of an appointment. It is a moot point whether this cover you driving 1000 miles through half a dozen countries to have an MOT done in Dover.
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Hi All,
I have just bought a house in Zsedeny,and am reading this post with interest.
Do i understand right an Mot costs 40,000ft.is this because its a registration Mot or is this the cost every year?
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Hi All,
I have just bought a house in Zsedeny,and am reading this post with interest.
Do i understand right an Mot costs 40,000ft.is this because its a registration Mot or is this the cost every year?
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Hi and welcome to the BE forums CC.

If you shop around - google "Műszaki Vizsga", you can find test centers with offers from around 16,500ft.
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HI CC.
Bear in mind that a vehicle MoT last for two years here, so hassle and cost is fairly negligible.
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Hi Dutzee,
Do you know what are the insurance costs are approx?
I have a 54 plate Vauxhall Vectra 1.9CDTI and a KTM 990 SM 59 plate.
What bike is that youre sitting on?
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I drive an Hungarian registered Suzuki Swift which is insured with Allianz. I've just paid the bill for the forthcoming year which came to 20748ft.

When I first came here six years ago I wasn't allowed to purchase a car because at the time I didn't have Hungarian residence so my son brought one over from the UK which was registered and insured in his name. Even though I was stopped several time by police at road blocks and asked to show the papers, the fact that it was registered and insured in his name never caused a problem. A year later he took it back to the UK by which time I had my residence permit and I then bought an Hungarian car.
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Even though I was stopped several time by police at road blocks and asked to show the papers, the fact that it was registered and insured in his name never caused a problem.
Probably because all Hungarian car insurance is 'any driver' without choice and owner-driver or named drivers /age limits are unknown here. Which gives the interesting position vs. the UK as my then teenage kids could drive my 9 seater Land Rover as soon as they passed their test without even telling the insurance co. In the UK I would not have got them insurance at any affordable price, here there is no difference.

The insurance here divides into two parts, compulsory and comprehensive. The compulsory is essentially third party, for anything else you need comprehensive. There is no UK equivalent of third party fire and theft. If you want theft cover then its comprehensive. (unless someone knows different and things have changed recently, let me know)

With regards to cost, there is a practice that insurance is fixed for a year Jan to Jan and if you want to change companies then you do it in January. Consequently the January newspapers carry ads. from the insurance cos. giving rates for the various types of cars and drivers (NCDs or loadings based on accidents). So Crashcage, if you can hang on for a couple of weeks or so then you will be able to get comparison costs from the newspaper ads.

By the way any UK NCD should be accepted here, mine was - nearly 20 years ago!!

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I had not heard about no claims bonus in Hungary and I was not asked anything about driving history when I first insured my car. How does that work if it's any driver? How do they know it's the mature owner who's driving and not an inexperienced teenager?
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I had not heard about no claims bonus in Hungary and I was not asked anything about driving history when I first insured my car. How does that work if it's any driver? How do they know it's the mature owner who's driving and not an inexperienced teenager?
It works the same way as in the UK, I have the insurance and if the car is involved in an accident then my NCD takes a hit. One difference is that in the UK the NCD results in lower premiums whereas here you pay the full amount and get a refund around March or so for the previous year, providing there are no claims. (gives them all that money interest free for a year!!) My bonus rating is B50 = 50% bonus, the maximum, no such thing as protected bonus etc. as far as I know. I think the bonus goes from B50 to B10 then starts on the other side at M10 to M50 for loading the naughty people, with B0 as the starting point, which will vary according to the insurers age and address. It seems a bit illogical that the insured's data defines the premium rather that the worst (highest risk) named driver as in the UK but thats the only way to do it without named drivers. (can you still get any driver in the UK??),
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