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scrubbedexpat142 Jun 6th 2019 4:39 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by enter (Post 12694255)
By the way we have been notified that a new law is in place that you cannot cut your grass with machines from 9pm to 8am any day, and cutting grass on a Sunday is banned, also on a Sunday using any noisy machinery such as saws/angle grinders that may upset the neighbours, any factual confirmation/views on that, other views, pointless!.:)

Good! - this issue was debated in this forum a while ago with very mixed responses.

scot47 Jun 6th 2019 7:55 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
"Family-centred" ? That was what General Franco claimed.

Peter_in_Hungary Jun 6th 2019 8:12 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
And another good thing here...and how could I forget living in the Balaton Felvidék...The Wine.........however having misspent part of my youth in Belgium I won't mention Hungarian beer!!!!.

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 6th 2019 8:21 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
And another - avoiding the constant whining that has become so prevalent in British society!

PaulinEger Jun 7th 2019 5:49 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by enter (Post 12694255)
By the way we have been notified that a new law is in place that you cannot cut your grass with machines from 9pm to 8am any day, and cutting grass on a Sunday is banned, also on a Sunday using any noisy machinery such as saws/angle grinders that may upset the neighbours, any factual confirmation/views on that, other views, pointless!.:)

Is that a national law or just local to your area?
I hope it's not national as the weekends are the only time I get to do any outdoor work. And that's been more difficult this year due to the amount of rain that we've had.

PaulinEger Jun 7th 2019 6:03 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 12694016)
Popping in from Spain. Avoiding other Brits is often due to wishing to live with the people of the country that you have chosen to live in. Living within a British enclave is not for everyone. When my husband and I were buying here one of the questions that we asked the estate agent was whether there were any Brits in the town that we had selected, she apologised and stated that there were none and did not understand why we were happy about this situation. For us it was of great importance whereas for others it is imperative that they live with other Brits. Each to their own.

Rosemary

We've been in Hungary for 11 years and for us it was important not to live in an English community. We have several English friends but don't live in each other's pockets. We used to meet up once every couple of months but that has died off.
We are currently living in our 3rd house in Hungary, in a small village of around 600 people. When we moved in we were the only permanent Brits here. Shortly afterwards quite a few more moved here and there are now about 11. We actually don't like most of them and never speak, although we rarely see them. There is only one couple who we get on with and they've been thinking of returning to the UK and don't get on with the other Brits here.

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 7th 2019 10:17 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
Because (round here) people don't cut their grass (or use other machinery) on Sundays!

Funnily enough, in the UK, for years we lived on the border of town & country, edge of the New Forest and the noise of mowers, chain saws, pressure washers, etc on Sundays used to drive us mad. Then we moved into the town for our last 18 months and the peace was bliss!

Don't know if the law is local or national (& can't find any references) -
​​​our "Hazi rend" have prohibited such activities for years.

enter Jun 7th 2019 10:41 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
Can agree with you Paulin Eger, some are strange here but suppose the world over its the same, its probably because we are relatively squashed together in a smaller area with less choice to who we get on with..

Susan Delgado Jun 7th 2019 10:52 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12694022)
Ah, but you are talking about the Scots - a small & very select subset of the "Brits"! :lol:

true that, and a damn fine lot :lol:

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 7th 2019 11:37 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
And of course Hungary is one of those Countries where you can, to a greater or lesser degree depending on locale, get away with speaking the language & where locals, if they can, are more than happy to speak / practice English.

Try that in France, for example!

We have found that when we speak Hungarian to English speaking Hungarians we confuse them & they tend to insist on speaking in English (mainly of course because of our lousy accents!) - & we are grateful at the apparent willingness to switch to English.

Peter_in_Hungary Jun 7th 2019 2:09 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
A bit different from when we first came here, when I walked into a shop the assistant would immediately start speaking (bad) German. Even now in shops where I am not known sometimes I still get spoken to in German and I reply (in Hungarian) No, just Hungarian or English please, whereupon with some relief they switch to Hungarian

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 7th 2019 2:22 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary (Post 12694794)
A bit different from when we first came here, when I walked into a shop the assistant would immediately start speaking (bad) German. Even now in shops where I am not known sometimes I still get spoken to in German and I reply (in Hungarian) No, just Hungarian or English please, whereupon with some relief they switch to Hungarian

​​​​​​Yes - a delightful "mature" lady stopped us for directions the other day & started off in German but then did switch back (I wouldn't know if her German was good or bad!).

FenTiger Jun 8th 2019 7:12 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Susan Delgado (Post 12694015)
likewise, with the only difference that wherever I go in Scotland, even the most remote corner, guaranteed I'll find some Hungarians there. London is the 3rd biggest Hungarian city. We colonized the UK

There's 4,000 Hungarians living in Brighton according to a Hungarian woman we met on our return flight from Hungary last year.

cathyg Jun 8th 2019 2:21 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
Often get asked the question Why? The real reason was for us that due to ill health we needed to retire but couldn't do that in the UK so came here. I actually think for various reasons that I live a much healthier lifestyle here.
As to the political situation here I always remember that I am essentially a guest in Hungary but it is also good to sometimes suggest an alternative view albeit in a respectful manner. I have great faith in the current generation of 20-30 years
olds many of whom do want to stay.
The reality is that there is good and bad in every country.

scot47 Jun 9th 2019 7:21 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
In Central and Eastern Europe German has been a major "lingua franca" for centuries... Your average Anglo Germanophobe may not like this, but fact it is !

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 10th 2019 2:39 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
The peace & quiet at weekends & public holidays, marvellous!

Novocastrian Jun 10th 2019 3:35 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12695516)
In Central and Eastern Europe German has been a major "lingua franca" for centuries... Your average Anglo Germanophobe may not like this, but fact it is !

And your non-average Anglo Germanophile loves it.

Novocastrian Jun 10th 2019 3:36 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12694686)
And of course Hungary is one of those Countries where you can, to a greater or lesser degree depending on locale, get away with speaking the language & where locals, if they can, are more than happy to speak / practice English.

Try that in France, for example!

We have found that when we speak Hungarian to English speaking Hungarians we confuse them & they tend to insist on speaking in English (mainly of course because of our lousy accents!) - & we are grateful at the apparent willingness to switch to English.

Why would you want to?

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 10th 2019 4:34 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12696066)
Why would you want to?

Not quite with you but from my experiences in France the French are anxious that everybody should speak French.

Tweedpipe Jun 10th 2019 5:19 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12694686)
And of course Hungary is one of those Countries where you can, to a greater or lesser degree depending on locale, get away with speaking the language & where locals, if they can, are more than happy to speak / practice English.

Try that in France, for example!

We have found that when we speak Hungarian to English speaking Hungarians we confuse them & they tend to insist on speaking in English (mainly of course because of our lousy accents!) - & we are grateful at the apparent willingness to switch to English.

An interesting thread.
Having just popped in from the French forum, having read and re-read the above comment, I'm having difficulty in understanding it.
In so many French cities, I've found the locals more than ready to reply in English, whether I address them in French or English. After all the years here I'm pretty fluent, but my Bristol accent of course is a dead giveaway that I'm not a French local, although rarely experienced any reluctance on their part to try out their English if they're capable.
Not surprisingly I've picked up the local SW France accent too, which tended to horrify my French Parisian work colleagues for a few years at Orly and Roissy/Charles to Gaulle. A bit like a country bumpkin addressing a group of Oxford or Cambridge intellectuals. :o

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 10th 2019 5:23 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Tweedpipe (Post 12696118)
An interesting thread.
Having just popped in from the French forum, having read and re-read the above comment, I'm having difficulty in understanding it.
In so many French cities, I've found the locals more than ready to reply in English, whether I address them in French or English. My Bristol accent of course is a dead giveaway that I'm not a French local, but rarely experienced any reluctance on their part to try out their English if they're capable.
Not surprisingly I've picked up the local SW France accent too, which tended to horrify my French Parisian work colleagues for a few years at Orly and Roissy/Charles to Gaulle. A bit like a country bumpkin addressing a group of Oxford or Cambridge intellectuals. :o

Fair enough - just my opinion based on my personal experiences, which admittedly are 5 years ago (& longer). Last time I was there, in Toulouse this subject came up with some French colleagues who commented that the French can be very difficult - again, just their opinion.

Tweedpipe Jun 10th 2019 6:17 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12696120)
Fair enough - just my opinion based on my personal experiences, which admittedly are 5 years ago (& longer). Last time I was there, in Toulouse this subject came up with some French colleagues who commented that the French can be very difficult - again, just their opinion.

Sure, totally agree that the French can be very difficult. Still married to one......;)


scrubbedexpat142 Jun 10th 2019 6:37 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Tweedpipe (Post 12696143)
Sure, totally agree that the French can be very difficult. Still married to one......;)

:lol:

duztee Jun 11th 2019 6:49 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
For myself, purely economical because I am one of those filthy smokers, and yes I am addicted and No I am not giving up!
So living on a pension Hungary or anywhere else where I can indulge my disgusting habit cheaper is fine.

As for socialising I don't and never have, this forum is about my limit, I am really happy and content in my own quiet world and can go weeks without speaking to a soul. It took my neighbours a while to work this out but they are finally trained to just give a friendly wave and leave it at that, took slightly longer to break them of the habit of wanting to shake hands all the time.

But the OP asked why Hungary, especially considering the politics of the country, Answer, I am old!
I really don't bother about the political situation here or in the UK, and global warming/climate change probably isn't going to be my cause of death, even if it is a serious issue.
I travelled a lot in my youth, flying all over the world and it was fun, now airports and aircraft and public travel is so anti smoker (rightly so) the only way for me to travel and smoke is to do so alone by car, also at my age long haul travel is not so enjoyable as it was, so living in Hungary is slightly more central for warm European destinations than always starting from 'Up North'.
I lived a few years in Spain until costs started to spiral, France never ever! The capital is Paris that's with an IS how can it be ParEE? and don't get me started on why they need Bord(eaux) just to say 'o'
If I was moving now I would probably choose Croatia, but then I wouldn't be able to go there for superb holidays.
So I guess it is a case of choosing your country and making it work for you, accepting the things that are not perfect and balancing them against the good points.

Tweedpipe Jun 11th 2019 8:07 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by duztee (Post 12696341)
For myself, purely economical because I am one of those filthy smokers, and yes I am addicted and No I am not giving up!
So living on a pension Hungary or anywhere else where I can indulge my disgusting habit cheaper is fine.

As for socialising I don't and never have, this forum is about my limit, I am really happy and content in my own quiet world and can go weeks without speaking to a soul. It took my neighbours a while to work this out but they are finally trained to just give a friendly wave and leave it at that, took slightly longer to break them of the habit of wanting to shake hands all the time.

But the OP asked why Hungary, especially considering the politics of the country, Answer, I am old!
I really don't bother about the political situation here or in the UK, and global warming/climate change probably isn't going to be my cause of death, even if it is a serious issue.
I travelled a lot in my youth, flying all over the world and it was fun, now airports and aircraft and public travel is so anti smoker (rightly so) the only way for me to travel and smoke is to do so alone by car, also at my age long haul travel is not so enjoyable as it was, so living in Hungary is slightly more central for warm European destinations than always starting from 'Up North'.
I lived a few years in Spain until costs started to spiral, France never ever! The capital is Paris that's with an IS how can it be ParEE? and don't get me started on why they need Bord(eaux) just to say 'o'
If I was moving now I would probably choose Croatia, but then I wouldn't be able to go there for superb holidays.
So I guess it is a case of choosing your country and making it work for you, accepting the things that are not perfect and balancing them against the good points.

:goodpost: duztee
Your comment about the French pronunciation of ParEE made me smile. A few years ago we were living in Chantilly, north of Paris.
We'd invited a work colleague to an evening meal at home. He was a bachelor, and notorious for being a loner and extremely cantankerous.
During the main course, we asked him if he'd done anything interesting that day. To which he replied, "I took a drive out to Senlis to see the gothic cathedral" (pronouncing Senlis as one would assume the French would, 'SenlEE'). My wife politely corrected him, "No, Paul, the correct pronunciation is SenlEES".
"No it's not!" he shouted loudly, "It's SenlEE and always will be SenlEE!!"
My wife calmly said to him, "Unlike ParEE, I'm afraid it's one of the exceptions to the rule. It really is known everywhere as SenlEES.
"Impossibe!!" he snorted. And hardly said another word all evening.
Of course my wife was right. But regarding French pronunciations, go figure........

enter Jun 11th 2019 10:21 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by duztee (Post 12696341)
For myself, purely economical because I am one of those filthy smokers, and yes I am addicted and No I am not giving up!
So living on a pension Hungary or anywhere else where I can indulge my disgusting habit cheaper is fine.

As for socialising I don't and never have, this forum is about my limit, I am really happy and content in my own quiet world and can go weeks without speaking to a soul. It took my neighbours a while to work this out but they are finally trained to just give a friendly wave and leave it at that, took slightly longer to break them of the habit of wanting to shake hands all the time.

But the OP asked why Hungary, especially considering the politics of the country, Answer, I am old!
I really don't bother about the political situation here or in the UK, and global warming/climate change probably isn't going to be my cause of death, even if it is a serious issue.
I travelled a lot in my youth, flying all over the world and it was fun, now airports and aircraft and public travel is so anti smoker (rightly so) the only way for me to travel and smoke is to do so alone by car, also at my age long haul travel is not so enjoyable as it was, so living in Hungary is slightly more central for warm European destinations than always starting from 'Up North'.
I lived a few years in Spain until costs started to spiral, France never ever! The capital is Paris that's with an IS how can it be ParEE? and don't get me started on why they need Bord(eaux) just to say 'o'
If I was moving now I would probably choose Croatia, but then I wouldn't be able to go there for superb holidays.
So I guess it is a case of choosing your country and making it work for you, accepting the things that are not perfect and balancing them against the good points.


:goodpost:

FenTiger Jun 11th 2019 11:55 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
I'm yet to move to Hungary and my reasons for wanting to move there are: Pension will go further than UK, Outdoor life, Wife's family live in Hungary (mine are all dead or got nothing in common), want to buy a bit more land than I could afford in UK and live in the area of our choice, palinka (costs far too much to buy in UK), Soproni Fekete (Guinness is like drinking watered down beer), plenty of lakes where you can go for a free drip in the water, access to TV sports in Hungary alot cheaper or free than in UK. I guess there's more but ...... I could go on forever.

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 11th 2019 12:36 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by FenTiger (Post 12696450)
I'm yet to move to Hungary and my reasons for wanting to move there are: Pension will go further than UK, Outdoor life, Wife's family live in Hungary (mine are all dead or got nothing in common), want to buy a bit more land than I could afford in UK and live in the area of our choice, palinka (costs far too much to buy in UK), Soproni Fekete (Guinness is like drinking watered down beer), plenty of lakes where you can go for a free drip in the water, access to TV sports in Hungary alot cheaper or free than in UK. I guess there's more but ...... I could go on forever.

Are you going to make it over before October 31?

scot47 Jun 11th 2019 12:40 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
I have had an interest in Hungary since the events in Budapest in 1956. Was offered a job there in 1990 but did not take it up. Too late now to think of hearing there !

scot47 Jun 11th 2019 7:28 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
typo - "hearing" should be "moving"

FenTiger Jun 12th 2019 6:45 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12696473)
Are you going to make it over before October 31?

My wife is Hungarian so nothing beyond that will stop me moving to Hungary. I could move over before October as I'm retiring August. I'm praying for a good deal. We need one in UK as we employ alot of Europeans in NHS.

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 12th 2019 7:49 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by FenTiger (Post 12696856)
My wife is Hungarian so nothing beyond that will stop me moving to Hungary. I could move over before October as I'm retiring August. I'm praying for a good deal. We need one in UK as we employ alot of Europeans in NHS.

Of course! I forgot! Hope all goes well!

duztee Jun 13th 2019 7:04 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by FenTiger (Post 12696450)
I, access to TV sports in Hungary a lot cheaper or free than in UK. I guess there's more but ...... I could go on forever.

Yes I forgot this one Fen, I have been a life long F1 fan, even if it is now a mere shadow of it's former self it is still nice to have all the races and qualifying live on free to air.
I usually watch the race live on Hungarian T.V. with the sound off and listen to the BBC Five live commentary, which is usually 3 or 4 seconds behind so the cars are already at the second corner when the commentator shouts 'Lights out, their off!' But that is a lot better than the delay of many hours before Channel 4 get around to showing the race. and a lot cheaper than paying Sky!
That said Hungarian T.V. does tend to show a lot of mind numbingly boring sports as well.

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 13th 2019 7:32 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by duztee (Post 12697419)
Yes I forgot this one Fen, I have been a life long F1 fan, even if it is now a mere shadow of it's former self it is still nice to have all the races and qualifying live on free to air.
I usually watch the race live on Hungarian T.V. with the sound off and listen to the BBC Five live commentary, which is usually 3 or 4 seconds behind so the cars are already at the second corner when the commentator shouts 'Lights out, their off!' But that is a lot better than the delay of many hours before Channel 4 get around to showing the race. and a lot cheaper than paying Sky!
That said Hungarian T.V. does tend to show a lot of mind numbingly boring sports as well.

I do leave the Hungarian commentary on (in the hope of improving my Hungarian!) but refer to the BBC text commentary for clarification.

FenTiger Jun 13th 2019 7:49 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by duztee (Post 12697419)
Yes I forgot this one Fen, I have been a life long F1 fan, even if it is now a mere shadow of it's former self it is still nice to have all the races and qualifying live on free to air.
I usually watch the race live on Hungarian T.V. with the sound off and listen to the BBC Five live commentary, which is usually 3 or 4 seconds behind so the cars are already at the second corner when the commentator shouts 'Lights out, their off!' But that is a lot better than the delay of many hours before Channel 4 get around to showing the race. and a lot cheaper than paying Sky!
That said Hungarian T.V. does tend to show a lot of mind numbingly boring sports as well.

England football matches no longer on BBC or the other terrestrial TV channels. Had to watch England v. Holland via BT Sport via Internet. Total crap with the footballers leaving vapour trails behind them but free as a gesture from BT Sport. I can't imagine this happening anywhere else in the world.

kohoutek Jun 16th 2019 2:41 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
I am 62 and the missus is 55.
Worked all my life in the UK, ran a security company for 10 yrs with Brother in Law, had enough of HMRC hounding us every week for this and that, so decided to jack it in and move out of the UK.
We moved here permanently in June 2017.
Being Ex RN and my father 22 yrs in RA, I have lived pretty much abroad all my life.
Stumbled upon the Forum and stayed with Peter and Barbara in Tapolca for 3 days after using the first week in Hungary at a timeshare resort.
Bought a house (2014) in Nick, Vas Megye, 40 mins from Austrian border, we are the only Brits in the village. Have met Brits in villages nearby and keep in touch etc.
My pension has 3 1/2 years to go before it kicks in, kids are grown up and two live in the house in Warrington.
Life is so calm, the air is clean, weather is good too. Make annual pilgrimage to the Formula 1 every year in Mogyoród.
We have had a motorway (M86) built just outside the village and see many nationalities driving through to the Pannonia Ring Circuit just down the road from us.
Village life is great, everyone is friendly and were yet to have a bad situation.
Cannot speak Hungarian but am trying, most people we speak to can communicate in German, so we get by on that.
Hope to lead a happy and long life here, no intention of returning... waiting for the kids to move out so can sell the house ... lol

Michael/Julie

Peter_in_Hungary Jun 16th 2019 7:23 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by rondee79 (Post 12698910)
You can buy a gaff in Hungary now for peanuts, I saw one on eBay of all places for 8k

If it is that cheap there will be a reason why.

If it is/was that much of a bargain how come a Hungarian hadn't grabbed it as soon as it was advertised?.

Estate agents work for themselves first, the seller second and the purchaser (especially the foreign purchaser) is the cash cow. Hungary doesn't have the trades description regs that the UK enjoys. Searches undertaken (with liability) by your UK solicitor are not done here unless the purchaser does it themselves. Contracts are drawn up by a solicitor - the same solicitor for both sides and the solicitors job is to make sure that the contract is legal - note legal is not necessarily fair or just, but legal none the less. It is very much up to the purchaser to ensure that they understand what they are buying.

FenTiger Jun 17th 2019 5:29 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by FenTiger (Post 12697436)
England football matches no longer on BBC or the other terrestrial TV channels. Had to watch England v. Holland via BT Sport via Internet. Total crap with the footballers leaving vapour trails behind them but free as a gesture from BT Sport. I can't imagine this happening anywhere else in the world.

The Womens World Cup is on BBC .....surely this is discrimination if Mens football isn't shown on BBC!

FenTiger Jun 17th 2019 5:32 am

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 

Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary (Post 12698924)
If it is that cheap there will be a reason why.

If it is/was that much of a bargain how come a Hungarian hadn't grabbed it as soon as it was advertised?.

Estate agents work for themselves first, the seller second and the purchaser (especially the foreign purchaser) is the cash cow. Hungary doesn't have the trades description regs that the UK enjoys. Searches undertaken (with liability) by your UK solicitor are not done here unless the purchaser does it themselves. Contracts are drawn up by a solicitor - the same solicitor for both sides and the solicitors job is to make sure that the contract is legal - note legal is not necessarily fair or just, but legal none the less. It is very much up to the purchaser to ensure that they understand what they are buying.

Peter is spot on. Who would put a "gaff" on e-Bay? Dodgey, dodgey ....walk away!

scot47 Dec 14th 2019 3:48 pm

Re: Living in Hungary - why?
 
If you have to watch football, watch local matches !


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