Hungarian bureaucracy on the ball as ever.
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Re: Hungarian bureaucracy on the ball as ever.
I used to know a Hungarian army captain and he told me about a recent (at that time) purchase by the local army of a fleet of new Opel Astras. The price paid was actually more than Joe Average would pay to buy a single car. It was all about corruption and people who knew people and pockets were lined. :/
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Re: Hungarian bureaucracy on the ball as ever.
I must confess to having acquired some respect for Hungarian bureaucracy, certainly in comparison to my experiences with the UK.
Two years running I have received a cash refund from the gas company together with downward adjustments to my monthly payment (due to my new boiler) - WITHOUT ASKING.
Shortly before leaving the UK British Gas, without a meter read, upped my direct debits, without notification - it took a 6 months battle to get the DD adjusted & a further 3 months to get a refund.
On our first day in Hungary we arranged for an Internet package with Magyar Telekom - visited the shop 18th December, engineer called & completed installation on December 23rd.
By contrast on our last move within the UK it took 4 months to terminate our old line with BT and have our new one connected, during that time BT direct debited both our addresses. On one of the promised installation days I waited in, even taking the phone with me to the bathroom in case they called. No show so at 7 pm I called the number BT had given me to hear "we tried to call you today but you were unavailable". Next day I asked several colleagues to call the same BT number - all received the same message, so a deliberate prerecorded lie.
Back to Magyar Telekom, when we move to Buda, we arranged for a fresh package to be installed. Engineer called 2 days later - "Sorry, this house does not have MT infrastructure, you will have to contract with UPC" (which we did, successfully 3 days later). Expecting to hear no more from MT we were staggered to receive, out of the blue, 68000 Ft from MT as compensation.
Leaving the UK we informed the BBC (Capita) that we were leaving. 2 months later we received a cheque in partial refund of our license). 6 weeks later we received a stroppy letter from the BBC threatening prosecution due to their records showing no TV licence.
Shortly after moving to Buda we received and paid our first Kommunalis bill. Some weeks later a lady from the local authority rang the bell and explained that she needed to ask some demographic questions and could she return that afternoon with a fluent English speaking colleague. They did and again without asking, and very shortly my Wife received a refund & discount.
Spotted a small water leak over the road, just a trickle, called it in - crew arrived in 3 hours and worked into the small hours to fix it.
Sister & I currently fighting a British "institution" to lodge a considerable Trust Fund sum, the current problem being their shock at discovering that the Hungarian Utility bill they had requested from me is in - you guessed it, Hungarian. Never had a problem here with the presentation of documents in English.
TAJ cards, 1 appointment with OEP, cards issued after 30 minutes.
I could go on & on.
I have found the bureaucracy here highly satisfactory & have never experienced the British "Computer says no" syndrome.
But then of course we live in Budapest, which as the cognoscenti on here well know, isn't actually in Hungary.
Two years running I have received a cash refund from the gas company together with downward adjustments to my monthly payment (due to my new boiler) - WITHOUT ASKING.
Shortly before leaving the UK British Gas, without a meter read, upped my direct debits, without notification - it took a 6 months battle to get the DD adjusted & a further 3 months to get a refund.
On our first day in Hungary we arranged for an Internet package with Magyar Telekom - visited the shop 18th December, engineer called & completed installation on December 23rd.
By contrast on our last move within the UK it took 4 months to terminate our old line with BT and have our new one connected, during that time BT direct debited both our addresses. On one of the promised installation days I waited in, even taking the phone with me to the bathroom in case they called. No show so at 7 pm I called the number BT had given me to hear "we tried to call you today but you were unavailable". Next day I asked several colleagues to call the same BT number - all received the same message, so a deliberate prerecorded lie.
Back to Magyar Telekom, when we move to Buda, we arranged for a fresh package to be installed. Engineer called 2 days later - "Sorry, this house does not have MT infrastructure, you will have to contract with UPC" (which we did, successfully 3 days later). Expecting to hear no more from MT we were staggered to receive, out of the blue, 68000 Ft from MT as compensation.
Leaving the UK we informed the BBC (Capita) that we were leaving. 2 months later we received a cheque in partial refund of our license). 6 weeks later we received a stroppy letter from the BBC threatening prosecution due to their records showing no TV licence.
Shortly after moving to Buda we received and paid our first Kommunalis bill. Some weeks later a lady from the local authority rang the bell and explained that she needed to ask some demographic questions and could she return that afternoon with a fluent English speaking colleague. They did and again without asking, and very shortly my Wife received a refund & discount.
Spotted a small water leak over the road, just a trickle, called it in - crew arrived in 3 hours and worked into the small hours to fix it.
Sister & I currently fighting a British "institution" to lodge a considerable Trust Fund sum, the current problem being their shock at discovering that the Hungarian Utility bill they had requested from me is in - you guessed it, Hungarian. Never had a problem here with the presentation of documents in English.
TAJ cards, 1 appointment with OEP, cards issued after 30 minutes.
I could go on & on.
I have found the bureaucracy here highly satisfactory & have never experienced the British "Computer says no" syndrome.
But then of course we live in Budapest, which as the cognoscenti on here well know, isn't actually in Hungary.
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Re: Hungarian bureaucracy on the ball as ever.
As a matter of interest how many years of reduced consumption due to the new boiler will it take to recoup the cost of the new boiler
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Re: Hungarian bureaucracy on the ball as ever.
That's quite a good ROI