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Hey Fentiger - I nearly learned SL

Hey Fentiger - I nearly learned SL

Old May 29th 2023, 4:09 pm
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Default Hey Fentiger - I nearly learned SL

The rest of you can read on, I don't want to bore you.

My first son has severe autism and wasn't speaking when he was nearly 8.

The speech & language specialist - we were back in UK - said we should start signing.

We already had the autism diagnosis from Hungary, confirmed from NZ. My son had attended various kindergartens in Hungary and NZ and now primary school in the UK, but just wouldn't talk. I think at age 8 it was like 'yes, no', a couple of other words

Did you know that 60 years ago, the common UK/ USA medical profession understanding for what causes autism is lack of a mother's love? I assure you my wife loves her son dearly.

Did you know that 30 years ago, French medical professionals used to try and treat autism by throwing them up and down in blankets?

I read a lot around autism, esp in NZ where I had access to Otago university library.

Anyway - to be slightly more succinct - I said to the speech therapist: thanks for the advice about sign language but we'll just persevere with real speech for a bit.

Luckily my son soon picked up and was soon making good progress. He had a great time in primary school mainstream, was popular. Then in Cornwall, he went to a special school attached to a mainstream Comp, eg he sat in regular tutor groups - it all went well and he was popular. Just a few silly incidents of kids taking advantage of his learning disability - but that can be forgiven, they were young and silly.

Luckily I ignored stuff about letting your kids spend time on computers. He went computer crazy and of course that's communication skills. He's ace and can type about 5x faster than me.He researches stuff all the time and speaks relatively fluently.

I asked him a couple of years ago why he didn't speak earlier - we are open about his autism - and he said he didn't want to speak.

So - no sign language skills, I'm afraid to say.
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Default Re: Hey Fentiger - I nearly learned SL

Originally Posted by Bill Sykes
The rest of you can read on, I don't want to bore you.

My first son has severe autism and wasn't speaking when he was nearly 8.

The speech & language specialist - we were back in UK - said we should start signing.

We already had the autism diagnosis from Hungary, confirmed from NZ. My son had attended various kindergartens in Hungary and NZ and now primary school in the UK, but just wouldn't talk. I think at age 8 it was like 'yes, no', a couple of other words

Did you know that 60 years ago, the common UK/ USA medical profession understanding for what causes autism is lack of a mother's love? I assure you my wife loves her son dearly.

Did you know that 30 years ago, French medical professionals used to try and treat autism by throwing them up and down in blankets?

I read a lot around autism, esp in NZ where I had access to Otago university library.

Anyway - to be slightly more succinct - I said to the speech therapist: thanks for the advice about sign language but we'll just persevere with real speech for a bit.

Luckily my son soon picked up and was soon making good progress. He had a great time in primary school mainstream, was popular. Then in Cornwall, he went to a special school attached to a mainstream Comp, eg he sat in regular tutor groups - it all went well and he was popular. Just a few silly incidents of kids taking advantage of his learning disability - but that can be forgiven, they were young and silly.

Luckily I ignored stuff about letting your kids spend time on computers. He went computer crazy and of course that's communication skills. He's ace and can type about 5x faster than me.He researches stuff all the time and speaks relatively fluently.

I asked him a couple of years ago why he didn't speak earlier - we are open about his autism - and he said he didn't want to speak.

So - no sign language skills, I'm afraid to say.
The sign language used for communicating with those with a learning disability is called Makaton. It shouldn't be confused with British Sign Language or Sign Supported English.

My personal experience of school as a deaf child is that until I was 7 and half years old it was a waste of time. No additional support. After that 50% class time with qualified teacher for the deaf, the other 50% in mainstream and a total waste of time as I learnt nothing in mainstream. 11 years old I was packed off 120 miles away to a boarding school for deaf boys. Finally, I was getting somewhere and I did quite well in the twice yearly school exams. All teachers were either qualified teachers for the deaf or had the unique skill of ensuring we grasped what we were being taught. Lessons were taught orally/aurally ..... no sign language so learning was much harder for those from deaf families with sign language being their mother tongue. Some could trace deaf family members going back four generations.

My Hungarian Sign Language is coming on slowly. That's my focus for the next year along with improving my Hungarian vocabulary which I need to link to HSL.



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