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Pollypaprika May 23rd 2013 9:21 am

Getting connected
 
I could not find the thread about connecting to the mains if you have a cess pit. Anyway, I thought I would post a few photos to show, that even if you do have a long trench to dig, it is achievable and we found the whole process relatively painless. Remember, if you are doing this yourself, you will need to get the pipes etc inspected and signed off before they will connect you. We used professionals...no way we could do all this in under 2 days. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9698530&type=3

Pollypaprika Nov 8th 2013 10:58 am

Re: Getting connected
 
Well, just under 6 months on and have just realised that it is not just our waste which is going down the drain....just received first bill...it would appear that getting connected to the mains is an ideal way to flush your money down the drain too :ohmy: :blink:

Peter_in_Hungary Nov 8th 2013 2:45 pm

Re: Getting connected
 
As you will probably know the sewage charge is calculated by water in = poo out. So any water that does not go down the drain e.g car washing, garden watering, kids paddling pool etc. is also charged for treatment. It can make a big difference if you get a garden tap with its own meter which will be charged for the water only without the added sewage charge. Otherwise water reuse and rain water harvesting can help but it can be easy to spend more than you save when setting up alternative water systems (that is it could take too many years to recoup the outlay)
Otherwise a lot of older properties have dug wells so it might be worth considering cleaning these to use for non-potable uses

Pollypaprika Nov 8th 2013 5:34 pm

Re: Getting connected
 

Originally Posted by Peter_in_Hungary (Post 10982138)
As you will probably know the sewage charge is calculated by water in = poo out. So any water that does not go down the drain e.g car washing, garden watering, kids paddling pool etc. is also charged for treatment. It can make a big difference if you get a garden tap with its own meter which will be charged for the water only without the added sewage charge. Otherwise water reuse and rain water harvesting can help but it can be easy to spend more than you save when setting up alternative water systems (that is it could take too many years to recoup the outlay)
Otherwise a lot of older properties have dug wells so it might be worth considering cleaning these to use for non-potable uses

Thank you for the info and sound advice Peter. Much appreciated :thumbup:

Rural Hungary Nov 8th 2013 6:43 pm

Re: Getting connected
 

Originally Posted by Polgardi (Post 10981907)
Well, just under 6 months on and have just realised that it is not just our waste which is going down the drain....just received first bill...it would appear that getting connected to the mains is an ideal way to flush your money down the drain too :ohmy: :blink:

It's one of the reasons we don't want to be connected to mains - especially considering we fill the pool every year!

I have heard of some who put a block in the cistern, good idea and another ho flushes once a day - not for me I'm afraid!! Utilise your well (if you have one) as much as possible, especially during the summer.

Pollypaprika Nov 10th 2013 5:30 pm

Re: Getting connected
 

Originally Posted by Rural Hungary (Post 10982481)
It's one of the reasons we don't want to be connected to mains - especially considering we fill the pool every year!

I have heard of some who put a block in the cistern, good idea and another ho flushes once a day - not for me I'm afraid!! Utilise your well (if you have one) as much as possible, especially during the summer.

We have a well so yes, we need to use it...get a pump etc. We are also thinking of making an outside shower, have seen them in other gardens and they look perfect for when the weather is hot :thumbup:

fidobsa Nov 11th 2013 8:11 am

Re: Getting connected
 
If you get a pump, try to get a good quality one, as a cheap one might just not do what it says on the box. I bought a cheap submersible that is supposed to be good for 9 metres but it struggles to manage 5 metres. This will be partly due to losses in the long extension cable needed to reach my well, which is typically some distance from the house. I had to bore a hole in the base of the well wall to feed the hose through, as the pump would not manage the extra 3 feet or so to lift water up to the top of the wall.

Pollypaprika Dec 3rd 2013 2:44 pm

Re: Getting connected
 

Originally Posted by fidobsa (Post 10985594)
If you get a pump, try to get a good quality one, as a cheap one might just not do what it says on the box. I bought a cheap submersible that is supposed to be good for 9 metres but it struggles to manage 5 metres. This will be partly due to losses in the long extension cable needed to reach my well, which is typically some distance from the house. I had to bore a hole in the base of the well wall to feed the hose through, as the pump would not manage the extra 3 feet or so to lift water up to the top of the wall.

Thanks Fid :)

Out of interest on average, how much do people use each month? Is 8 cubic metres a lot? I know it depends on what the water is used for and what appliances you have, but it does seem quite a lot to me?

Many thanks

Peter_in_Hungary Dec 3rd 2013 3:09 pm

Re: Getting connected
 

Originally Posted by Polgardi (Post 11018549)
Thanks Fid :)

Out of interest on average, how much do people use each month? Is 8 cubic metres a lot? I know it depends on what the water is used for and what appliances you have, but it does seem quite a lot to me?

Many thanks

When we came to Hungary we were in a flat for a bit and 5 of us used about 11 m3 per month, (about 70lts/day/person) now on the farm with the veggies and the animals in the summer we can use 3 - 4 m3 a day, so yes usage does depend a lot on lifestyle.

fidobsa Dec 3rd 2013 3:52 pm

Re: Getting connected
 
I paid a water bill today and it looks like it is for 3 cubic metres but I've been on my own for that period, it goes up when I have volunteers or other guests. I use the well for watering the garden and most of the building jobs. There is an item on the bill "vizterhelési díj" which I don't understand but it is only 62 Forints so it's probably an adjustment for something. I think they read my meter every month.

Pollypaprika Dec 4th 2013 12:13 pm

Re: Getting connected
 
Thanks for your responses. We just checked for a leak...just in case...and will monitor it. Will be interesting to see what next month's bill is. :sneaky:

Crashcage Dec 29th 2013 12:42 am

Re: Getting connected
 
I have just bought a house Zsedeny,and was told i would be connected to mains in 2014.The old owner has 1 more payment to do.this was included in the purchase price.I was also informed by estate agents daughter(she was translator) that when a foreigner pays to have this done the cost triples.
Why is this?

CC

Rural Hungary Dec 29th 2013 12:46 am

Re: Getting connected
 

Originally Posted by Crashcage (Post 11053963)
I was also informed by estate agents daughter(she was translator) that when a foreigner pays to have this done the cost triples.
Why is this?

CC

Never heard of this and I know several Brits who have paid for their mains sewage to be connected and they pay exactly the same as the Hungarians. Perhaps she was trying to make out you were saving money due to the owner having paid for it:unsure:

Or it might be specific to your village:unsure:

Crashcage Dec 29th 2013 1:03 am

Re: Getting connected
 
I read in another post about some prices for work being higher because of Austrian/German owners paying over the top prices.Sarvar isnt far away and is a hub in the summer,so i'm told,for Austrians/Germans/Czechs maybe this is why.
I did find it strange.

Rural Hungary Dec 29th 2013 1:09 am

Re: Getting connected
 

Originally Posted by Crashcage (Post 11053979)
I read in another post about some prices for work being higher because of Austrian/German owners paying over the top prices.Sarvar isnt far away and is a hub in the summer,so i'm told,for Austrians/Germans/Czechs maybe this is why.
I did find it strange.

Hi, no, the mains sewage is different as it is billed via the mayors office and therefore shouldn't be higher if somebody is foreign. However, some villages might do so inline with higher village tax for non residents but it would be unusual and extremely unfair.


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