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Old Jan 19th 2023, 2:08 pm
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I have been told that more uk ex-pats who have permanent Hungarian residenc are applying for Hungarian citizenship. What are the main benefits for obtaining this status. Thank you.
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Free travel on public transport (once pension age)
Cheap passports - free if over 65. and possession of an EU passport
less problems travelling around Europe - ID card only needed.
Pensioner rates entering places with reduced fees for OAPs (spa's etc.) (which were lost with Brexit)
That's the benefits I see, there may be others that are not relevant to my lifestyle.

Oh and you can become an MP or president whilst otherwise you are limited to local councillor.
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Thanks Peter for he quick reply, I am really interested in the last benefit..not
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It's something I've been considering for some time, more so since Brexit. The main reason for would a European passport.
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Thanks Peter for the quick reply, I am really interested in the last benefit..not
One downside is that you would be called up if there ever was a draft. There may be others downsides too.
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One downside is that you would be called up if there ever was a draft. There may be others downsides too.
Not at my age !!!

A dual citizen can't use the other nationality in the country of the first.
Which is why Iran locks up dual nationals and the UK is fairly powerless to act.
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My sister married an Englishman and for more than 40 years now she has had a German and a UK passport.
Whenever she and her husband traveled around the world they always tried to optimize - in some countries the British passport was better, in the EU of course the German.
Their children btw also have two passports ...
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From what date can someone apply for Hungarian citizenship? Is it the date of entry, date from when temporary residence card was applied for or issued? I now have a permanent residence card as a foreigner! Does this impact on when I can apply?

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From what date can someone apply for Hungarian citizenship? Is it the date of entry, date from when temporary residence card was applied for or issued? I now have a permanent residence card as a foreigner! Does this impact on when I can apply?
https://helpers.hu/services/immigrat...BoCRI0QAvD_BwE
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My query is for the date I can apply for Hungarian citizenship. There's quite a bit of information missing on Helpers.hu website.
Ah, well, I'll try effective from the date I arrived here. If they say too early I'll simply ask when I can apply.
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From what date can someone apply for Hungarian citizenship? Is it the date of entry, date from when temporary residence card was applied for or issued? I now have a permanent residence card as a foreigner! Does this impact on when I can apply?
Because you have a Hungarian wife you follow a quicker and simpler process to mere mortals. The site mentioned above is a 'pay for' service. If you go to your local government office (Okmányiroda) they will tell you. There are differences in the language requirements depending upon age and class of applicant. (a friend (50 years old) who has a Hungarian father applied in America and was given citizenship on the basis of form filling - no language skill needed). I am an OAP so when I applied on the basis of Hungarian family (wife and children) there was no language exam but I had to write a 1 page CV in Hungarian on site and have a short conversation - all done in the local government office (Okmányiroda). I don't know the time scales because we have been here for 27 years so that bit was irrelevant.
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Because you have a Hungarian wife you follow a quicker and simpler process to mere mortals. The site mentioned above is a 'pay for' service. If you go to your local government office (Okmányiroda) they will tell you. There are differences in the language requirements depending upon age and class of applicant. (a friend (50 years old) who has a Hungarian father applied in America and was given citizenship on the basis of form filling - no language skill needed). I am an OAP so when I applied on the basis of Hungarian family (wife and children) there was no language exam but I had to write a 1 page CV in Hungarian on site and have a short conversation - all done in the local government office (Okmányiroda). I don't know the time scales because we have been here for 27 years so that bit was irrelevant.
That's interesting your American friend with Hungarian father didn't need any language skills but yourself, despite having a Hungarian wife and living here for donkeys years you had to fill in a CV on site in Hungarian. I thought I read on the Hungarian website no language exam for over 60's. I better start expanding my Hungarian Sign Language Skills so I can do the CV and have conversation in Hungarian via HSL interpreter.
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That's interesting your American friend with Hungarian father didn't need any language skills but yourself, despite having a Hungarian wife and living here for donkeys years you had to fill in a CV on site in Hungarian. I thought I read on the Hungarian website no language exam for over 60's. I better start expanding my Hungarian Sign Language Skills so I can do the CV and have conversation in Hungarian via HSL interpreter.
No language exam for over 60s doesn't mean no language skills, it means no language exam.
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A friend who got her citizenship before I did had to produce a hand written CV to take in but apparently it was found out that someone got another person to write on their behalf and since then you have to write it in the office in person. Mine was 1 page, large writing and well spaced paragraphs. with not much effort I could probably have got it on 1/2 a page. Apart from needing to memorize the words and spelling the next biggest problem is that for 40 odd years the only thing I have written is a shopping list and then I can't read it 3 days later. Everything needing to be written has been (is) done on a keyboard.

The conversation I had at the 'interview' was more basic than conversations I have had with builders and plumbers. Going through an interpreter can make things easier - especially if the interpreter is sympatric to your cause. My wife is an interpreter and she has 'prompted' correct responses on occasions.
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No language exam for over 60s doesn't mean no language skills, it means no language exam.
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A friend who got her citizenship before I did had to produce a hand written CV to take in but apparently it was found out that someone got another person to write on their behalf and since then you have to write it in the office in person. Mine was 1 page, large writing and well spaced paragraphs. with not much effort I could probably have got it on 1/2 a page. Apart from needing to memorize the words and spelling the next biggest problem is that for 40 odd years the only thing I have written is a shopping list and then I can't read it 3 days later. Everything needing to be written has been (is) done on a keyboard.

The conversation I had at the 'interview' was more basic than conversations I have had with builders and plumbers. Going through an interpreter can make things easier - especially if the interpreter is sympatric to your cause. My wife is an interpreter and she has 'prompted' correct responses on occasions.
I have been told alot of Deaf Hungarians who use HSL struggle to read and write Hungarian. Often they get their children to help them. Ah, well, I'd have to swallow the pill and improve my reading and writing for Hungarian. To be honest in UK I struggled to lipread my NHS colleagues but from a financial report writing perspective I think I was better than them. .

Going back to the CV I wrote one in English as requested when I applied for something, I forget what exactly. Basically, had to write about myself, career, etc. The guy who dealt with me said most British didn't bother but they were pleased I made the effort.

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I have been told alot of Deaf Hungarians who use HSL struggle to read and write Hungarian.
Yeah me too. I struggle big time to read and write Hungarian and have done since we came here My wife keeps telling me "it's no problem - it's Fonetic" Hmm - doesn't help!

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Going back to the CV I wrote one in English as requested when I applied for something, I forget what exactly. Basically, had to write about myself, career, etc. The guy who dealt with me said most British didn't bother but they were pleased I made the effort.
The CV I wrote was very short. I wrote it in English got it translated and then practised writing the Hungarian until I got (most of) the various Os Us and Es etc. about right !!!
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