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Old May 20th 2014, 6:47 pm
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Hi anyone and everyone,

I try to be very short. My husband fell on the icy stairs back in January during that cold spell. An expat friend, who happens to live in the same village as us, recommended a Boven Therapist in Gyor. He has been in a lot of pain recently, so finally yesterday our village GP referred him for an Xray. He does lots of gentle stretches and thinks that should he start running again on the running machine in our basement gym, he would get better without Physio or other treatments, which I doubt.

I have researched the matter on the Internet, but I am a bit sceptic and have no idea if that would work. I am wondering if anyone else had tried this form of back therapy. Our friend swears that it did good to their back problems.

I really would like to help him enjoy running again. Any suggestion would be welcome!

Thank you in anticipation.

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As a long time suffer with back pain I have found that treatments are very indevidual, what works for one can be a disaster for someone else. The single event that produced the most relief for me was getting out of an office and buying a farm! Otherwise there are certain movements that are a no no, for example lifting and turning at the same time. When I am silly and forget that I am no longer 20 then I find that warm water helps, so an afternoon in a thermal spa is helpful.

Your local GP can prescribe a course of treatments or massage therapy at a thermal spa (on the health service) that may be of benefit, although I have never found massage helpful, but the warm water - yes. Although I don't like Heviz (its the smell)

Hopefully your husbands problem won't be long term but in the mean time from my experience you just have to find out what works for you and stick with it. Personally I would never go running, too much jarring, and it can play havoc with tired or ageing knees. As part of a miss-spent youth having got a knee problem I was told by the specialist at the time to forget running (which I never did anyway) and start cycling, all the exercise - without the pounding, this also worked for my particular back pain, although I don't have time for that now, but then nowadays I only get problems when I forget what I'm not supposed to do.

He has my sympathy, back pain is a real pain in the a***
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Thank you Peter. Appreciate your words. I will take him to the private Clinique in Gyor, where I had some physio recently and it helped. Since my car accident almost 8 years ago, I was a victim of a hit and run, I had serious knee damage from hitting the dashboard and had some nerve damage on my back and neck caused by the whiplash, which often affects me when it gets cold. I am not in pain all the time, but physio helps minimising it sometimes. I am still sceptic about the Boven Therapy. X LZ
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As per Peter ... I would recommend cycling .... maybe a cycling exercise machine, walking with a good pair of suitable walking boots/trekking shoes or swimming. With swimming you are not putting any weight on your back or knees and can swim as gently as you like.

I have had acupuncture (sshhh .... on the NHS in the UK) for a number of ailments (mainly back pain) and they seemed to work at first but after a while I found my body resisted any further treatment and I gained no benefit. I think with acupuncture the immediate benefits are probably more psychological than physical.

I used to practice Shotokan Karate but quit 10 years ago. My knees couldn't take any more jumping into the air and kicking someone's chin or twisting my knees to get them into a certain stance! Earlier this year I started learning Tai Chi via a book and video. I enjoyed it but events over took things and haven't done anything since. Hopefully I will get back into this.

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Tai Chi is considered to be safe for people of all ages as it does not put too much stress on the muscles and joints.

In addition to being safe, Tai Chi is also inexpensive as it does not require much equipment. It can be practiced either in a group or alone.

Modern research has found that Tai Chi has positive effects on balance control, fitness, and flexibility. In addition, the martial art has been claimed to reduce the risk of falls among elderly individuals who have suffered from severe heart conditions.

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Hi Tiger, All,

Me too had acupuncture after my car accident. My GP in England was qualified for it. It actually helped, but after a while I had problems again. A wrong movement or bending can trigger the nerve in in my back to get trapped, and that can really be Purgatory .

I used to be a former international swimmer. I exercised religiously all my life right up to the date of the accident. Actually I was driving to the Gym to my evening kick boxing classes when this guy hit me frontally, driving in a stolen car, three times over the legal limit and ran away leaving me there unconscious and half dead. The week before the accident I swan three swimming marathons for my club at the LA Gym in Loughbourough. I was more than fit... 2 hours at the gym each day. I no longer exercise as it causes me discomfort if I run or walk, or even if I swim. At least we walk the dogs on the nearby fields and woods.

I hope hubby will get better. I gave him a Naproxen, which is a good muscle relaxant. Strimming around the trees in our small woodland area all afternoon took its toll on his back.

I have no clue if there is an equivalent for Naproxen here in Hun. I should ask our local GP tomorrow, as Diclofenac causes internal bleeding to my husband. We are going to the Hospital tomorrow morning...fingers crossed that he will not have anything serious.

Thanks for the advice. X LZ
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I should probably ring my young ex neighbour back in the UK, as he knows a lot about treatments and relaxation. He used to be a Jiu Jitsu champion representing the UK . He was so fit that the girls in the area were dying to see his sick pack when walking down the street. He would have been a good son in law...a lovely educated guy, but he met a Sikh woman and they seem to be very happy forever and a day! X
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I should probably ring my young ex neighbour back in the UK, as he knows a lot about treatments and relaxation. He used to be a Jiu Jitsu champion representing the UK . He was so fit that the girls in the area were dying to see his sick pack when walking down the street. He would have been a good son in law...a lovely educated guy, but he met a Sikh woman and they seem to be very happy forever and a day! X
I had a six pack once .... now it looks like a barrel of beer!
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A flat barrel of Hungarian Soproni . You certainly will not need a Bowen treatment, being so fit . We have just come back from the hospital where my husband had a full Xray on his whole spine from neck down. It was full of people and we had to wait quite a lot because suddenly the Xray team decided to stop working while a workman turned on to change some broken piece on the machine. People were angry and moaning and some even swearing, feneben, and so on. I was not happy either, and asked if we were to spend all day waiting for the machine to work, as we were not used to waiting for so long. The nurse replied with a miserable bored to death face that if we do not like the Hungarian system we should go back to England. I started laughing and I nonchalantly but politely blurted out, Thank you for your friendly advice, such a great Welcome to our new country...we only moved here because we were told the Hungarians are very nice, friendly and polite people....she certainly felt ashamed afterwards and furiously left us.

Luckily we go privately for treatments, but my private Clinique has no Xray department . Life is beautiful, at least it is not raining. +30C boiling! X
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My cousin is an NHS hospital nurse, a private chiropodist and also sells Avon cosmetics, in addition to now being a carer for her father, my uncle. She has a very busy life but, like me she suffers from chronic back pain. In her last email she was saying she has bought some Cyclossage equipment and it is helping her to keep going with the daily grind.
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Hi, thank you for your good advice to my enquiry. My DH was referred for a sophisticated treatment at a rehabilitation centre in Gyor, which includes different type of masage, electrical stimulation, heat and all sorts. He will start next Friday. One thing that I know for sure is that the Hungarian Physio is 100 times better than what I ever received back in the UK. Back home I was lectured on how to deal with the pain, but nothing has ever been done, except telling me to do some exercise...a No No when one is in real pain. I should have been referred to Birmingham at the time, but I was not an injured soldier to qualify for the War related Injuries Rehabilitation Centre.

So fingers crossed, hopefully he will get the best out of it. And no months for a waiting list, so efficient. We should be grateful for the Hun NHS. I wanted to take him privately, but our GP said that she would refer him to a better physio centre for much less money. How sweet! She is great!

Finally something good happening to us after a year of going through hell. As I said before, life is beautiful, sunny and warm...all we need is a cold Soproni or a cold home made elderflower champagne ( I made 12Ls the other week) and more yesterday.

Have a nice day.

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