Balcony door
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Balcony door
We had new triple glazed windows and balcony doors (bedrooms) fitted last November 2021. Also two additional doors and window for the new terrace. Our bedroom balcony doors only have handle on the inside. For the doors with access to the new terrace we wanted to be able to shut the doors on other side (terrace) and window fitters mentioned it was possible to do this with a small modification on the outside part of the door. I am not sure how exactly that could work but basically you turned the door handle to open (quarter turn) then back one eighth so half open/closed. On other side to close pull this small catch/slot. To open from outside just push the inward opening door. Just to clarify we only wanted the new terrace doors to be lockable from inside.
Photo is of our balcony door and new terrace doors (from lounge and kitchen) have exactly the same locking mechanism.
Recently I had to replace the metal strip on side of our front door (not new) which locks it to brackets on door frame. Looking at that metal strip and the one on new terrace doors I cannot fathom how adding a modification it will be possible to close the door on terrace side.
We expected the option mentioned to have already been done before doors were fitted. Unfortunately, not, and window fitters are waiting for the new modification parts to be delivered.
I'm in two minds ..... did they forget to include the modification when they were ordered or is there a genuine issue in getting the modification parts delivered? Or thirdly, have we been hoodwinked the doors are not the specification we ordered and have been fitted with probably no possibility of having them replaced.
Why do we need to close the new terrace doors? Simple, to keep the dogs inside house.
Photo is of our balcony door and new terrace doors (from lounge and kitchen) have exactly the same locking mechanism.
Recently I had to replace the metal strip on side of our front door (not new) which locks it to brackets on door frame. Looking at that metal strip and the one on new terrace doors I cannot fathom how adding a modification it will be possible to close the door on terrace side.
We expected the option mentioned to have already been done before doors were fitted. Unfortunately, not, and window fitters are waiting for the new modification parts to be delivered.
I'm in two minds ..... did they forget to include the modification when they were ordered or is there a genuine issue in getting the modification parts delivered? Or thirdly, have we been hoodwinked the doors are not the specification we ordered and have been fitted with probably no possibility of having them replaced.
Why do we need to close the new terrace doors? Simple, to keep the dogs inside house.
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Re: Balcony door
I have a balcony door and from your photo it is a similar closing mechanism. My door has no handle on the outside but there is a spring clip which holds the door when pulled shut from the outside. On my door it would be possible to drill through the door and fit a handle on the outside corresponding to the internal handle however as there is no key lock on the door there would be no security.
Does your terrace door have a key lock? If not IMO it is not suitable for a terrace door because someone could use a glass cutter to cut a hole in the glass, put their hand through and open the door (a brick would also work but this makes more noise). On a balcony this is less of an issue due to the height.
Does your terrace door have a spring catch? If not one could be fitted that would hold the door closed. Otherwise a front door mechanism should be fitted with a handle both sides and a key lock for better security.
Does your terrace door have a key lock? If not IMO it is not suitable for a terrace door because someone could use a glass cutter to cut a hole in the glass, put their hand through and open the door (a brick would also work but this makes more noise). On a balcony this is less of an issue due to the height.
Does your terrace door have a spring catch? If not one could be fitted that would hold the door closed. Otherwise a front door mechanism should be fitted with a handle both sides and a key lock for better security.
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Re: Balcony door
I have a balcony door and from your photo it is a similar closing mechanism. My door has no handle on the outside but there is a spring clip which holds the door when pulled shut from the outside. On my door it would be possible to drill through the door and fit a handle on the outside corresponding to the internal handle however as there is no key lock on the door there would be no security.
Does your terrace door have a key lock? If not IMO it is not suitable for a terrace door because someone could use a glass cutter to cut a hole in the glass, put their hand through and open the door (a brick would also work but this makes more noise). On a balcony this is less of an issue due to the height.
Does your terrace door have a spring catch? If not one could be fitted that would hold the door closed. Otherwise a front door mechanism should be fitted with a handle both sides and a key lock for better security.
Does your terrace door have a key lock? If not IMO it is not suitable for a terrace door because someone could use a glass cutter to cut a hole in the glass, put their hand through and open the door (a brick would also work but this makes more noise). On a balcony this is less of an issue due to the height.
Does your terrace door have a spring catch? If not one could be fitted that would hold the door closed. Otherwise a front door mechanism should be fitted with a handle both sides and a key lock for better security.
Having been to a hardware store in Miskolc I'm confident we can modify it to provide extra security.
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Re: Balcony door
I have a balcony door and from your photo it is a similar closing mechanism. My door has no handle on the outside but there is a spring clip which holds the door when pulled shut from the outside. On my door it would be possible to drill through the door and fit a handle on the outside corresponding to the internal handle however as there is no key lock on the door there would be no security.
Does your terrace door have a key lock? If not IMO it is not suitable for a terrace door because someone could use a glass cutter to cut a hole in the glass, put their hand through and open the door (a brick would also work but this makes more noise). On a balcony this is less of an issue due to the height.
Does your terrace door have a spring catch? If not one could be fitted that would hold the door closed. Otherwise a front door mechanism should be fitted with a handle both sides and a key lock for better security.
Does your terrace door have a key lock? If not IMO it is not suitable for a terrace door because someone could use a glass cutter to cut a hole in the glass, put their hand through and open the door (a brick would also work but this makes more noise). On a balcony this is less of an issue due to the height.
Does your terrace door have a spring catch? If not one could be fitted that would hold the door closed. Otherwise a front door mechanism should be fitted with a handle both sides and a key lock for better security.
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Re: Balcony door
We're still waiting for the spring catch for our new retrace doors. The windows/doors guy has assured us they haven't forgotten us. They mentioned several customers are waiting for their new windows/doors.