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msj5 Aug 27th 2010 4:12 am

Re: Visa help.
 
What do the last 6 posts have to do with visa help????? Off topic me thinks!!!!!

Bipat Aug 27th 2010 5:46 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 8805115)
Warning to those with a 5 year entry visa issued on basis of Indian origin. The rules have been tightened in last few months. .

msj5 I think my post was very relevant, I have just collected my passport from Birmingham today. Apparently the general rules were tightened up in January 2010. I have had a 5 year visa since 1984 when visas were introduced. Today I have a 1 year tourist!! (Didn't have copy of husband's old Indian passport). It also states that registration is necessary if visa is valid for more than 180 days, this is new. When I pointed out that husband had a 5 year they said he "was lucky" (he renewed just before rule change.)
When I submitted the application I saw other British people being refused a long term visas. My post was to warn people of the latest rules and take all possible documentation with them when they apply for their visas.

Bipat Aug 27th 2010 5:47 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 8807732)
What do the last 6 posts have to do with visa help????? Off topic me thinks!!!!!

See my above post

msj5 Aug 27th 2010 2:57 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 8807996)
msj5 I think my post was very relevant, I have just collected my passport from Birmingham today. Apparently the general rules were tightened up in January 2010. I have had a 5 year visa since 1984 when visas were introduced. Today I have a 1 year tourist!! (Didn't have copy of husband's old Indian passport). It also states that registration is necessary if visa is valid for more than 180 days, this is new. When I pointed out that husband had a 5 year they said he "was lucky" (he renewed just before rule change.)
When I submitted the application I saw other British people being refused a long term visas. My post was to warn people of the latest rules and take all possible documentation with them when they apply for their visas.

Hi Bipat. Your post was very relevant indeed -it was the ones following it and prior that I was talking about.

a_f_d Aug 27th 2010 11:28 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 8807996)
... It also states that registration is necessary if visa is valid for more than 180 days, this is new....

Well not really - it is pre-printed on all visa stickers, so it's been there at least since they started using stickers (and btw it's not true in all cases).

AndyD 8-)#

Bipat Aug 28th 2010 12:08 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 8809283)
Well not really - it is pre-printed on all visa stickers, so it's been there at least since they started using stickers (and btw it's not true in all cases).

AndyD 8-)#

We are both correct, the pre-print in small letters yes, but my visas were always overstamped (in green) with "no registration required if each stay does not exceed 6 months". My latest visa does not have the green over-stamp. ( Have no intention of registering however!)

pennylessinindia Aug 28th 2010 12:39 am

Re: Visa help.
 
Bipat sounds like you should be betting a PIO or OCI whichever is available for you. My visas have always had registration required within 14 days if staying longer than 180 days

Bipat Aug 28th 2010 12:58 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by pennylessinindia (Post 8809348)
Bipat sounds like you should be betting a PIO or OCI whichever is available for you. My visas have always had registration required within 14 days if staying longer than 180 days

My point was that: now apparently you need to register even if staying less than 180 days. The usual green over-stamp is no longer there.
PIO etc (as others have posted before) is very difficult for those of Indian origin who do not have a photocopy of their old Indian passport. For 5 year visas they would accept other documents but not since Jan. 2010. However (at the moment) they now say that they will accept an affidavit from Indian Magistrate ( for visas) so for me the problem will be solved when we arrive next month and we can get this.

msj5 Aug 28th 2010 5:41 am

Re: Visa help.
 
Hi Bipat.
All 1 year tourist visas clearly state "stay during each visit not to exceed 180 days". Yes it does say that registration for visas valid for more than 180 days is required - but yours and mine are not!And do make sure you leave on or before 180 days as the Immigration officers do check!!I learnt this in May when I left but was dead certain of my 180 days even though on the limit!!

Bipat Aug 28th 2010 6:27 am

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 8809733)
Hi Bipat.
All 1 year tourist visas clearly state "stay during each visit not to exceed 180 days". Yes it does say that registration for visas valid for more than 180 days is required - but yours and mine are not!And do make sure you leave on or before 180 days as the Immigration officers do check!!I learnt this in May when I left but was dead certain of my 180 days even though on the limit!!

Thanks I get your point, I was thinking of the validity of the visa being 1 year as it was a 1 year visa.
(Still feeling sore and somewhat insulted; husband and children with 5 year visas me with 1 year!!.) What the heck! have just spent the afternoon booking our flights. Going home !! great.

msj5 Aug 28th 2010 7:16 pm

Re: Visa help.
 
Hi Bipat.
Is the visa stamped with the dreaded 2 month out rule!

Bipat Aug 28th 2010 7:56 pm

Re: Visa help.
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 8810399)
Hi Bipat.
Is the visa stamped with the dreaded 2 month out rule!

Yes it is. On reading the rules, for tourist visas, apparently the 2 month out rule applies even if the visa is not stamped.

johnny five Aug 28th 2010 8:22 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...-uk-year-india

180 day rule?

2 months out?

Maybe they are working on the "leaving India for a short trip for reasons of tourism" idea to get round this?
Hope not because the opinion of the "experts" on IndiaMike, and they are quoting Q&A sessions with MHA, is that whilst it might get you round the two month rule, it DOES NOT reset the clock on the 180 day rule!

And of course, when they get booted out on the 180, the 2 months out will kick in..............


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Bipat Aug 28th 2010 8:51 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 8810532)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...-uk-year-india

180 day rule?

2 months out?

Maybe they are working on the "leaving India for a short trip for reasons of tourism" idea to get round this?
Hope not because the opinion of the "experts" on IndiaMike, and they are quoting Q&A sessions with MHA, is that whilst it might get you round the two month rule, it DOES NOT reset the clock on the 180 day rule!

And of course, when they get booted out on the 180, the 2 months out will kick in..............


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They mention in the report the '180 days and 2 months out' -- they might go to Thailand.
Would it not have been easier to rediscover themselves as a family in the The Isle of Wight or Lands End or even Scotland!!!

johnny five Aug 28th 2010 9:09 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 8810587)
They mention in the report the '180 days and 2 months out' -- they might go to Thailand.
Would it not have been easier to rediscover themselves as a family in the The Isle of Wight or Lands End or even Scotland!!!

OOps, that will teach me to read things in full! But they were grinding on about rediscovery to such an extent that I was losing the will to breathe..........
Quite agree with your sentiments though Bipat, although a year on the I-o-W sounds a bit horrifying, and looking at their brood brings back thoughts of Ms Keeling, doesnt it?


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