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whitebritishpio Jul 12th 2013 6:13 pm

PIO query
 
Hi Guys,

Another PIO application query. Sorry. I want to try to apply for a PIO card. I am a white british born male. Both parents white british born. My Grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born in india and moved to the UK in his 20's. My great-grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born, lived, worked and married in India. I have my Grandfathers birth certificate (Bombay), his application for a british passport (and stating my great grandfathers birthplace as Bangalore) and my great grandfathers marriage certificate in india. All my ancestry is white - but does anyone know if I have a chance? THANKS!!!:D

noni Jul 12th 2013 6:43 pm

Re: PIO query
 

Originally Posted by whitebritishpio (Post 10797896)
Hi Guys,

Another PIO application query. Sorry. I want to try to apply for a PIO card. I am a white british born male. Both parents white british born. My Grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born in india and moved to the UK in his 20's. My great-grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born, lived, worked and married in India. I have my Grandfathers birth certificate (Bombay), his application for a british passport (and stating my great grandfathers birthplace as Bangalore) and my great grandfathers marriage certificate in india. All my ancestry is white - but does anyone know if I have a chance? THANKS!!!:D

Welcome to BE - this is something I have no knowledge of so will leave it to one of our PIO's to answer. Hope you enjoy being with us.

Bipat Jul 12th 2013 8:16 pm

Re: PIO query
 

Originally Posted by whitebritishpio (Post 10797896)
Hi Guys,

Another PIO application query. Sorry. I want to try to apply for a PIO card. I am a white british born male. Both parents white british born. My Grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born in india and moved to the UK in his 20's. My great-grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born, lived, worked and married in India. I have my Grandfathers birth certificate (Bombay), his application for a british passport (and stating my great grandfathers birthplace as Bangalore) and my great grandfathers marriage certificate in india. All my ancestry is white - but does anyone know if I have a chance? THANKS!!!:D

I think it is very unlikely, but try the Indiamike visa section someone may have a more definite answer.

http://www.hcilondon.in/pio.html

GoanPlaces Jul 25th 2013 6:34 am

Re: PIO query
 
If you have your great-grandfather's birth cert showing that he was born in India, then to in all intents and purposes he is an Indian (you cannot tell skin colour from a birth cert). That said, just apply and see what happens, they can, at the worst, only say no!

GoanPlaces Jul 26th 2013 1:37 am

Re: PIO query
 
You are actually in a better position PIO wise than 2nd & 3rd generation Indian families who also wish to apply for PIO status, but cannot as there are no birth certs. You have the documentation it seems, apply and see how it goes. If you have fulfilled all the rules regardless of your skin colour you should get it. You can say you are Anglo-Indian :) did me well when I got my Aadhar card here to say I was Anglo, explains the fair skin :)

Return of Santan Jul 26th 2013 9:06 pm

Re: PIO query
 

Originally Posted by whitebritishpio (Post 10797896)
Hi Guys,

Another PIO application query. Sorry. I want to try to apply for a PIO card. I am a white british born male. Both parents white british born. My Grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born in india and moved to the UK in his 20's. My great-grandfather (white of scottish ancestry) was born, lived, worked and married in India. I have my Grandfathers birth certificate (Bombay), his application for a british passport (and stating my great grandfathers birthplace as Bangalore) and my great grandfathers marriage certificate in india. All my ancestry is white - but does anyone know if I have a chance? THANKS!!!:D

Like you whitebrit, I technically could apply for PIO as my mother was born over there 100 years ago, I have her death cert stating India as place of birth and copies of her UK passport details which also state M.P India as place of birth, but I have always been put off applying as I believe if they turn down your app -- they keep the fee....
Due to all the continuous crap we endure ( yes I KNOW its India before anyone starts ) now feel I may start the app process, let me know by PM how you get on ? good luck anyway :thumbsup:

RofS

Bipat Jul 26th 2013 9:48 pm

Re: PIO query
 

Originally Posted by Return of Santan (Post 10821482)
Like you whitebrit, I technically could apply for PIO as my mother was born over there 100 years ago, I have her death cert stating India as place of birth and copies of her UK passport details which also state M.P India as place of birth, but I have always been put off applying as I believe if they turn down your app -- they keep the fee....
Due to all the continuous crap we endure ( yes I KNOW its India before anyone starts ) now feel I may start the app process, let me know by PM how you get on ? good luck anyway :thumbsup:

RofS

The key for whitebrit will be the birth certificate. You must have something 'official' stamped in India itself.
Naturalisation certificate can help.
UK death cert. or UK passport details will not be accepted as evidence.
You can get phone advice from one of the UK specialist lawyers free.

Return of Santan Jul 27th 2013 3:26 am

Re: PIO query
 
UK death cert. or UK passport details will not be accepted as evidence.
You can get phone advice from one of the UK specialist lawyers free


Thanks Bipat for the " not so good news" for my situation, I do have another avenue open to me as I hope to get something official from M.P which may help :fingerscrossed:

RofS

Bipat Jul 27th 2013 5:01 am

Re: PIO query
 

Originally Posted by Return of Santan (Post 10821900)
UK death cert. or UK passport details will not be accepted as evidence.
You can get phone advice from one of the UK specialist lawyers free


Thanks Bipat for the " not so good news" for my situation, I do have another avenue open to me as I hope to get something official from M.P which may help :fingerscrossed:

RofS

If you can get school or college records. Or someone who knows your family and knows of your mother's birth and can give an affidavit. All can help.


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