Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

which apart from making no sense also leaves you open to the accusation of working (as a manager) on (presumably) a tourist visa.

AndyD

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

yes**, and I was told to apply for a RP when I apply for my extension.

** I suspect that the reasons for this are complex but related to the fact under the new price structure a 1-year X would be cheaper than a 1-year T. I was assured (!) that it was no problem as all non-T visas are now extensible in India.

AndyD 8-)₹

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

Immigration - C Form Rules

Any Hotel/ Guest House/ Dharmashala/Individual House/ University/ Hospital/ Institute/ Others etc. who provide accommodation to foreigners must submit the details of the residing foreigner in Form C

There is also a blank C Form and an online C form which can be filled in and emailed complete here :

Goa Information - C Form

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

You are correct it does not make sense but the problem is that the form was designed when there we no tourists who lived here. I have spoken to the police in our local station and they said to sign where it says Manager as we are the leaseholders of the property. There is no indication that we are paying oursleves to stay in our own place.
The law as it stands says that any Individual house has to complete a form for visitors. It is a simple way of keeoing track of foreigners in India. Its not a big problem and I really dont know what all the fuss is about especially when you hear so many Brits complaining about the Roumanians and Bulgarians going to live in the UK.
Any Hotel/ Guest House/ Dharmashala/Individual House/ University/ Hospital/ Institute/ Others etc. who provide accommodation to foreigners must submit the details of the residing foreigner in Form C to the Registration authorities within 24 hours of the arrival of the foreigner at their premises. This will help the registration authorities in locating and tracking the foreigners. This document provides the functionality of registration process of Hotel/ Guest House/ Dharmashala/Individual House / University/ Hospital/ Institute/ Others etc. owners for Form-C.

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

from Form 'C':

ARRIVAL REPORT OF FOREIGNER IN HOTEL
(See rule 14)
FORM C

1. Name and address of Hotel or other premises where accomodation has been provided for reward/on payment :

.............

Rule 14-Registration of Foreigners Rules, 1992.

14. Report to be made to and by hotel- keepers.
(1) Every keeper of a hotel shall require every visitor to the hotel to furnish the particulars necessary for recording, and sign, on his arrival at the hotel, his name and nationality in a register maintained for the purpose in Form F and, if any such visitor is a foreigner shall further require him;
(a) On his arrival at such a hotel to furnish the other particulars specified in Items 4 to 10 of the said register; and
(b) At the time of his departure from such a hotel to furnish the particulars necessary for recording in the said register, the date and time of his departure and the address to which he is proceeding.
(2) The register prescribed by sub-rule (1) shall at all time be made available for inspection, on the demand of any Registration Officer, any magistrate or any police-officer not below the rank of Head Constable.
(3) Every visitor to any hotel shall, on being required so to do by the keeper of the hotel, furnish the particulars necessary for recording, and sign, his name and nationality, in the register referred to in sub-rule (1), and if such visitor is a foreigner, shall also,
(a) On his arrival at such a hotel furnish, the other particulars specified in Items 4 to 10 of the said register; and
(b) At the time of his departure from such hotel, furnish the particulars necessary for recording, in the said register, the date and time of his departure and the address to which he is proceeding.
(4) Every particulars, other than the signature of the keeper of a hotel or a visitor, which is required by this rule to be recorded in the said register shall be recorded by the keeper of the hotel and in the English language, if he is so able, or otherwise, in an Indian language.
(5) If a visitor does not understand the English language it shall be duty of the keeper of the hotel, if so requested to explain to the visitor the requirements of this rule and Form F.
(6) The keeper of the hotel shall, as soon as may be but not more than twenty-four hours, after the arrival of any foreigner, transmit a copy of Form C, duly completed from the particulars furnished by such a foreigner, to the Registration Officer.
(7) For the purpose of this rule,-
(a) 'Hotel' includes any boarding-house, club, dak-bungalow, rest house, paying guest-house, sarai or other premises of like nature;
(b) 'Keeper of a hotel' means the person having the management of a hotel and includes any person authorised by him, and competent to perform the duties of the keeper of the hotel under this rule;
(c) 'Sign' includes, in respect of a visitor who is unable to write, the making of a thumb impression or other mark by means of which he is accustomed to attest a document; and
(d) 'visitor' means a person for whom accommodation is provided at a hotel.
(8) Copies of Form C may be obtained, on application, from any registration officer.


AndyD 8-)₹

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

Somewhere along the line the words "Individual House" were included in the wording but an amendment was made soon after to exclude private houses and the 1992 rules are the latest.

Where did you find your link? and then maybe I can re-find an amendment link which would settle this point.

You can imagine it was impractical to include private houses, Goa aside most Indian people who have foreign relatives or friends to stay would never have heard of 'C' Forms and no information is given with visas.
Also staying overnight or a short stay or at short notice where would they get a Form within 24 hours? Even now possession of computers and printers are not common!!!

You are right that foreign house owners were not considered by the law
and this is probably mainly a Goa situation.

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

Rob's first link in post #18 above takes you to a very up to date web page (2013) for the BoI, and it clearly states "individual house". It also makes no mention of payment being a precursor to filling form C.

Frequently, the Act refers to ALL foreigners, no exclusions.

The Registration of Foreigners Act was introduced in 1939, throughout the British Empire at the start of the Second World War, as it was considered desirable to know what foreigners were around, and where.

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

The actual law is as stated in the 1992 rules see post 20.
If you notice the "individual house" is followed by "providing accommodation for foreigners", not a private house having their auntie /son/ etc to stay for the night/week/ etc.etc. Can you explain how the latter could possibly know about or get a 'C Form' .

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

Correct, but when looking at web pages - even government pages - it is useful to ask what is the legal basis of the information given?
So, silly moot point, in terms of the 1939 Act are you foreign if you're British <vbg>.

AndyD 8-)₹

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

No, and I do not need to. Also ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law.

No because the countries concerned were British at that time, but under the 1992 Act, you most certainly are!

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

Have you never stayed overnight just as a guest at the house of an Indian friend (who wasn't in the business of running a Guest House or Home-stay)?

If you did, did you ask them to get and fill in a 'C' Form??-- I hope not. :D

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...s-indian-hosts

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

If I ever visit India for one night, I will remember this :rofl:



However, having filled out one for my main residence for the entire stay (months, not days), I have always felt I was covered for odd nights away, even as far as Bombay.

Strictly speaking, I guess I wasn't? :eek:

I see we now have reference to a 1971 piece of legislation?
And still no reference to payment..............

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

So, a Not silly link:

http://getup4change.org/rti/wp-conte...gners20011.pdf

AndyD 8-)₹

P.S. I now remember finding this years ago, when the same discussion errupted.

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

Oh ---I give up-- If during your stay in India you visit someone for 1 or more nights.
It is not YOU who are covered the C Form obligation is for the 'Landlord' he/she has to obey the law.
The 'C Form' refers to payment.
Please read the link it refers to the fact that ordinary householders are not required to report the visit of a foreigner.

Re: Form "C" - who needs to fill? please help clarify
 

here's (another) one

AndyD