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dogooder Feb 25th 2011 7:55 am

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9199845)
You don't need forebears for an affidavit, but you will need someone 'of standing' living in your mother's birthplace who knew her and her family history, to state that she was born there. These witnesses must be trusted by a local attorney as it is he/she who will prepare the affidavit and present it to the court.
Any school or other records; to present along with the affidavit at the visa centre will help. Obviously you will need your own birth certificate (I presume you were born in the UK).

Hi Bipat

Yes I was born in the UK - sadly both my parents died long ago and my mother left india quite young - my mum was 9 so did not finish school there and no living friends / relatives remaining in India - I thought of going to the churches they were baptised in to ask around but as it was 50 years ago I doubt anyone would remember them - especially given my grandfather (british army) married an anglo indian woman and was then ostracised by both families !

Bipat Feb 25th 2011 7:07 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by dogooder (Post 9202014)
Hi Bipat

Yes I was born in the UK - sadly both my parents died long ago and my mother left india quite young - my mum was 9 so did not finish school there and no living friends / relatives remaining in India - I thought of going to the churches they were baptised in to ask around but as it was 50 years ago I doubt anyone would remember them - especially given my grandfather (british army) married an anglo indian woman and was then ostracised by both families !

Sorry dogooder, it does look as though getting a PIO card will be impossible. However there might be evidence in army records or church records of grandfather's marriage. On quickly looking; quite a few web sites leading to 'British in India' records. Linking any evidence to yourself will be difficult.

sekundar Feb 26th 2011 9:53 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 
OK, so it's a definite No No to buying in Goa.... what are your thoughts on alternatives anywhere in the world? Is there anywhere approaching what Goa was 10 years ago....ie good weather, low cost of living, good health, friendly and safe environment?

noni Feb 26th 2011 10:35 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by sekundar (Post 9204785)
OK, so it's a definite No No to buying in Goa.... what are your thoughts on alternatives anywhere in the world? Is there anywhere approaching what Goa was 10 years ago....ie good weather, low cost of living, good health, friendly and safe environment?

Just rent anywhere - never buy.
See you are in France - don't like the French tax system just had to pay 86,409, Euro's. so all my dreams are shattered.

noni Feb 26th 2011 10:37 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9204848)
Just rent anywhere - never buy.
See you are in France - don't like the French tax system just had to pay 86,409, Euro's. so all my dreams are shattered.

:rofl::rofl: and there I was planning to buy more property in Goa:sneaky: NOT

:thumbdown:

sekundar Feb 27th 2011 9:31 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9204848)
Just rent anywhere - never buy.
See you are in France - don't like the French tax system just had to pay 86,409, Euro's. so all my dreams are shattered.

Hi Noni, why did you have to pay so much tax in France? I've been here 7 years, I'm fully in the french system and have been treated very fairly. I still have an income from UK where I pay tax, and after filling in the French tax forms usually have nil to pay.

noni Feb 27th 2011 10:13 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by sekundar (Post 9207183)
Hi Noni, why did you have to pay so much tax in France? I've been here 7 years, I'm fully in the french system and have been treated very fairly. I still have an income from UK where I pay tax, and after filling in the French tax forms usually have nil to pay.

Inheritance! from an unknown relative.

msj5 Feb 28th 2011 12:25 am

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9207258)
Inheritance! from an unknown relative.

Was there any of the inheritance left????

noni Feb 28th 2011 3:32 am

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9207521)
Was there any of the inheritance left????

Yep.

msj5 Feb 28th 2011 3:56 am

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9207921)
Yep.

Enjoy!!!:thumbsup:

a_f_d Feb 28th 2011 11:31 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by dogooder (Post 9199739)
I've come across a problem - my mother was born in India, so was my grandmother and a few more generations back - foolishly we bought a property in Goa first thinking we had 5 years to get my PIO card - now I am having real problems getting this ( I know should have done it the other way around but hindsight is a wonderful thing) , the IHC will not accept baptism certificates and unless I can get birth certificates I am going to be in the same difficulties as others - i.e. a property on a 5 year lease with a builder who is unlikely to extend without a hefty payment that we don't have !
Unfortunatey my forebears are all deceased so getting sworn affidavits is out - any suggestions gratefully recieved !

I realise that this is of no practical help, but you do not need a PIO card to be a PIO as per FEMA - the Act contains its own definition of PIO (which is actually sticter than the PIO card one because it doesn't go back to great-grandparents).

AndyD 8-)#

johnny five Mar 3rd 2011 8:25 am

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 
http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinion/bad-deal

Take the trouble to read the link.

Read it and weep.

This is not the government mouthpiece
(Herald- but sometimes we say naughty things to retain our credibility :rofl:)

This was Navhind, and having pointed out the craziness of it al (commenable), they spoil it all by finishing with "but its the law"

Is it hell...........sheer undiluted corruption is closer to the truth!


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mayrig Mar 3rd 2011 11:49 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 
Hi Dogooder

I was born in India and have ONLY a Baptism certificate. On the basis of this Baptism certificate an Indian passport was issued. This is the first time I've heard that they won't accept a Baptism certificate because the requirement to have a civil birth certificate is something relatively new.

As far as I have been given to understand it is the Church who would deal with registering the birth with the civil authorities and Baptism certificates were accepted as proof of birth.

If you have the birth dates for your parents and grandparents and know the Church that they were baptised at, you can approach the Parish office and request a copy of the Baptism Certificate. They are mostly open 9 to 12pm. We managed to get certificates for not just my grandparents, but my great grandparents too. So it is not an impossible task. The Parish priest should also be able to tell you what their procedure is to get births registered with the municipality or wherever it needs to be recorded. With that information may be you could apply for an extract/copy of the birth certificate itself.

For my part, till now I've only ever only used my baptism certificate, and until recently did not know that the church (at least in Maharashtra) was supposed to register/notify the birth of baptised babies to the civil authorities.

If you do manage to get a birth certificate in this way, it would be good if you could let us all know how and where you got it from.

Good luck!


Originally Posted by dogooder (Post 9199739)
I've come across a problem - my mother was born in India, so was my grandmother and a few more generations back - foolishly we bought a property in Goa first thinking we had 5 years to get my PIO card - now I am having real problems getting this ( I know should have done it the other way around but hindsight is a wonderful thing) , the IHC will not accept baptism certificates and unless I can get birth certificates I am going to be in the same difficulties as others - i.e. a property on a 5 year lease with a builder who is unlikely to extend without a hefty payment that we don't have !
Unfortunatey my forebears are all deceased so getting sworn affidavits is out - any suggestions gratefully recieved !


dogooder Mar 4th 2011 6:16 pm

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by fpbutler (Post 9217563)
Hi Dogooder

I was born in India and have ONLY a Baptism certificate. On the basis of this Baptism certificate an Indian passport was issued. This is the first time I've heard that they won't accept a Baptism certificate because the requirement to have a civil birth certificate is something relatively new.

As far as I have been given to understand it is the Church who would deal with registering the birth with the civil authorities and Baptism certificates were accepted as proof of birth.

If you have the birth dates for your parents and grandparents and know the Church that they were baptised at, you can approach the Parish office and request a copy of the Baptism Certificate. They are mostly open 9 to 12pm. We managed to get certificates for not just my grandparents, but my great grandparents too. So it is not an impossible task. The Parish priest should also be able to tell you what their procedure is to get births registered with the municipality or wherever it needs to be recorded. With that information may be you could apply for an extract/copy of the birth certificate itself.

For my part, till now I've only ever only used my baptism certificate, and until recently did not know that the church (at least in Maharashtra) was supposed to register/notify the birth of baptised babies to the civil authorities.

If you do manage to get a birth certificate in this way, it would be good if you could let us all know how and where you got it from.

Good luck!

Thanks for this - I previously tried to get a friend to go to the local registration office in India with the baptism certs -

I've got nothing to loose by trying myself and lots to gain so will try your suggested approach - may be a month or so before I can travel but will let people know how I get on

rdenero Mar 5th 2011 8:55 am

Re: Buying Property in Goa
 

Originally Posted by dogooder (Post 9219025)
Thanks for this - I previously tried to get a friend to go to the local registration office in India with the baptism certs -

I've got nothing to loose by trying myself and lots to gain so will try your suggested approach - may be a month or so before I can travel but will let people know how I get on

First find a loyal trusted Indian national give him enough money to buy house.
Secondly get him to sign in triplicate that he has borrowed this money with interest.
Thirdly he must sign documents that say you can live in his house forever.
Fourth live in house enjoy what is left of your life with no tension
Fifth you die and trusted Indian will benefit.
Easy innit. Regards from Sorted.........Otherwise it always ends in tears.


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