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leavinggoa Jan 19th 2010 3:21 pm

Re: 2 month rule and tourists
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 8255838)
Hi erinsgirl,
100% agree, but get your grammer correct he said 'doles' ignorant man.
how does he think we live for six months, we have to eat, use public transport, employ staff therefor spending money! We don't get any hand outs from him

I thought you had to "sign on" every 2 weeks and be available for work to draw dole.

Daff Jan 20th 2010 5:30 am

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You sure do have to sign on. AFAIK the only benefits you can get in the UK without either signing on or going for regular assessments is industrial injuries allowance and state pension. Even then I am not sure you are legally allowed to draw state pension if you are outside the EU. This just goes to show what the Indians think of the UK - 'doles' for the asking. :p

poppetjay Jan 20th 2010 2:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Daff (Post 8266662)
You sure do have to sign on. AFAIK the only benefits you can get in the UK without either signing on or going for regular assessments is industrial injuries allowance and state pension. Even then I am not sure you are legally allowed to draw state pension if you are outside the EU. This just goes to show what the Indians think of the UK - 'doles' for the asking. :p

You can legally have your state pension whilst living here, but you only get the basic payments of course "no cold weather payments" of course thats if you've declared you are living here, dont know if its legal if you are just on holiday i wouldnt have thought so.
Mind you i think its abit mean of the UK goverment not to pay A/c allowance for us to cool of here:D:Djoke!!!!

Mrs Brinks Matt Jan 20th 2010 11:22 pm

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Why not they are giving heating allowance to enough Indians living in the UK.

erinsgirl Jan 21st 2010 12:08 am

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If you claim UK state pension and holiday in India your pension is unaffected. If however you inform the UK authorities you are resident in India your pension is not given the automatic yearly cost of living increase. This is only paid to pensioners resident within the EU. I understand that a group of pensioners from South Africa and Australia are contesting this in the courts at the moment but no one knows the outcome just yet.

a_f_d Jan 21st 2010 12:17 am

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You can legally have your state pension whilst living here
Unless you're a PIO/ NRI you can't live here!

AndyD 8-)#

johnny five Jan 21st 2010 12:20 am

Re: 2 month rule and tourists
 

Originally Posted by erinsgirl (Post 8269167)
If you claim UK state pension and holiday in India your pension is unaffected. If however you inform the UK authorities you are resident in India your pension is not given the automatic yearly cost of living increase. This is only paid to pensioners resident within the EU. I understand that a group of pensioners from South Africa and Australia are contesting this in the courts at the moment but no one knows the outcome just yet.

This is not actually true. There is a list of places where the annual increase is still paid, outside of the EU.
Many of these places are pretty obscure, but a major one of interest to expats is the Philippine Islands. This is due to an agreement signed between the UK and RPI in 1978.
Yet another box ticked for the Philippines!

erinsgirl Jan 21st 2010 3:41 am

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Steve, that is very good to know I certainly did not find that out when I read up on it whilst back in the UK. Where else does this apply to and why are these places the exception to the rule? Maybe they could be alternatives to Goa?

johnny five Jan 21st 2010 4:14 am

Re: 2 month rule and tourists
 

Originally Posted by erinsgirl (Post 8269672)
Steve, that is very good to know I certainly did not find that out when I read up on it whilst back in the UK. Where else does this apply to and why are these places the exception to the rule? Maybe they could be alternatives to Goa?


Steve?

I explained why it is so in the Philippines (the 1978 bit)
Other countries, it will be for varying reasons.
I did see a list a while back of the other places but cant remember where?
Alternative to Goa? Ask Poppetjay!

johnny five Jan 21st 2010 4:46 am

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And just to show that I hane not taken umbrage at being called "Steve", here is the result of a half-hours worth of Googling and reading crap UK Government websites (why do they have to bury the small amount of info involved in pages and pages of waffle?)

The link to the site is;
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/osc.htm#5

and to keep it easy, heres the list;
Reciprocal Agreement countries

Barbados
Bermuda
Bosnia-Hercegovina
Canada
Croatia
Guernsey
Israel
Jamaica
Japan - Further details of the Japan Reciprocal Agreement
Jersey
Macedonia
Mauritius
Montenegro
New Zealand
Philippines
Republic of Korea - Further details of the Republic of Korea Reciprocal Agreement
Serbia
Turkey
USA
Yugoslavia *

*The Slovenia part of the Yugoslavia Reciprocal Agreement has been superseded by the European Community Regulations.

Please see the Department for Work & Pensions website for full details of our Social Security agreements with other countries.

I said it was a weird list, didnt I?
Havent taken the advice in the last paragraph as the DWP web site is one of the worst I have ever encountered, and I felt I might slit my wrists halfway through?
Love and kisses
J5
(Definitely not Steve)

Goacrazy56 Jan 21st 2010 5:13 am

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Id sooner have Milwart:rofl:
GC

johnny five Jan 21st 2010 9:09 am

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I just asked Milwart what his first name was as I had always assumed it was Eric?

He said Steve :eek: :eek::eek::eek:

dreadsoc Jan 21st 2010 9:15 am

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 8270708)
I just asked Milwart what his first name was as I had always assumed it was Eric?

He said Steve :eek: :eek::eek::eek:


Dear J5

Where is Milwart - why has he turned shy? Does he not realise he has an army of female fans waiting for his comeback ?

Dread - I want Milwart...now
x

johnny five Jan 21st 2010 9:49 am

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3.45 in the morning and you are looking for Milwart?

No wonder he's reticent, some peeps need their beuty sleep, innit?

Now go to bed and behave yourself please!

J5 - in mortal Dread

noni Jan 21st 2010 6:08 pm

Re: 2 month rule and tourists
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 8270895)
3.45 in the morning and you are looking for Milwart?

No wonder he's reticent, some peeps need their beuty sleep, innit?

Now go to bed and behave yourself please!

J5 - in mortal Dread

M ilwart need beauty sleep - I don't think so, he is absolutely gorgeous.
When in a good mood.


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