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Questions regarding healthcare and pension when living in Europe

Old Dec 2nd 2019, 4:41 pm
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Right to NHS treatment is based on residence and not on contributions to NI or anything else. When you leave the UK you will no longer be entitled to treatment. Entitlement to Health Care in Germany comes when you work and pay Health Insurance Contributions ("Krankenasses" or similar) in Germany.
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Originally Posted by gh05 View Post
A friend has arranged that he could get me a job in a local Irish bar to start. From there I would do my best to at least learn the basics of German.
All other issues notwithstanding, the need to be able to speak at least some German when working in Germany is paramount. Imagine a scenario where you are working away in your bar - customer comes up to you and says something, and your response is a blank look and maybe a vocal 'huh..?' .... and that will happen every single time unless you have at least a reasonable basic understanding of the language. Many people do indeed speak English in Germany - they are taught it from day one in school - but not all of them really want to speak it just so they can help someone they might view as an ignorant foreigner who can't be bothered to speak to them in their own language. Imagine if it was the other way round : would you seriously expect a German to come to the UK to work without speaking a word of English and expect everyone to pander to them in their own language..? Of course you wouldn't.

If you don't have some basic German at the very least you will be linguistically tripped up time and time again right from the moment you arrive in the country and it's very naive to think you can just go there and start work and all will be well without being able to speak a word. I strongly recommend you commence learning right now if you're really serious about doing this. German is difficult and the grammar is completely back to front and upside down compared to English and many people find it quite impossible to get a grip with, but even in a case where you can't get the hang of the grammar, some vocabulary will be a help, so you need to get cracking.. Buy a dictionary and start asking yourself what some random and useful words might be in German, - road, address, bottle, pay, breakfast etc.. - look them up and learn them by heart, that's how I started and it works if you stick with it. A good target at the start is to learn 5 or 6 new words per day and keep repeating them to yourself until they sink in.. The Google translate app is a pretty good little helper device to have on your mobile too.

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The attitude of the OP to language reflects a very common Anglo Mindset. Hostility to the very idea of learning and using another language.
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Originally Posted by scot47 View Post
The attitude of the OP to language reflects a very common Anglo Mindset. Hostility to the very idea of learning and using another language.
I think it's more a case of uninformed naivety and ignorance to be honest....

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Yeah
that as well
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Originally Posted by scot47 View Post
The attitude of the OP to language reflects a very common Anglo Mindset. Hostility to the very idea of learning and using another language.
I didn't see any hostility towards learning the German language in the OP's posts?
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I didn't see any hostility towards learning the German language in the OP's posts?
Nor did I. But he is naive to think that in order to work with Germans he will be able to use English and pick up German as he goes along.
Requirements for dishwashing staff is German language skills. A barman will need German even more.
Germany has no shortage of lower skilled workers (migrants) who can speak German. There is plenty competition on the labour market for these jobs.
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Nor did I. But he is naive to think that in order to work with Germans he will be able to use English and pick up German as he goes along.
Requirements for dishwashing staff is German language skills. A barman will need German even more.
Germany has no shortage of lower skilled workers (migrants) who can speak German. There is plenty competition on the labour market for these jobs.
Agreed.
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The mindset that we need not bother learning other languages is very common. It comes through in the OPs post. Why did he not learn German at school ? Why do so few of our Youth even attempt a foreign language ?
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Originally Posted by scot47 View Post
The mindset that we need not bother learning other languages is very common. It comes through in the OPs post. Why did he not learn German at school ? Why do so few of our Youth even attempt a foreign language ?
I don't know why the OP didn't learn German at school Scot. I didn't learn German at school. I'm sure millions of people didn't learn German at school.
I also don't know how many young people in the UK do or don't learn a foreign language. What does it matter? Learning a foreign language doesn't make you a good mother or father, or a good citizen, or a kind person, or the sort of person who doesn't judge others . It's also not necessary to learn a foreign language in order to be creative, to be well travelled, to be successful, or to be an inspiring leader. In short, learning a foreign language is far from the be all and end all!
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