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Old Nov 17th 2015, 10:00 am
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I know it's so tempting to keep them tied close to home, but has she considered Montreal? Our son, with a freshly obtained Bac ES in his (bac? pocket) raced away to Canada to further his education, and to especially benefit from the bi-lingual nature of the generally very safe community, good job prospects, ease of finding good, relatively inexpensive rental accommodation etc. And he's never looked back, apart from wishing he still had good wine and Camembert at French prices!
And with direct seasonal flights from Toulouse we get to see him far more frequently than we ever imagined.
Funnily enough, one of OH's relatives has just obtained a 5-year Visa (whatever it's called) to live and work in Canada. His parents are not happy bunnies, but that's life. Our DD2 has been studying/working outside of France for over 10 years. Luckily DD1 is "only" in Germany...
Apart from UK destinations, we in the Hérault aren't blessed with airports that serve the other destinations that we desire, and any visiting involves a 3-day camel trek. Well, almost....
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Old Nov 21st 2015, 7:24 am
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Vaccinations compulsory ? I can see that not going down well with those obsessed with the "alternative" lifestyle !
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Old Nov 21st 2015, 7:47 am
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Vaccinations compulsory ? I can see that not going down well with those obsessed with the "alternative" lifestyle !
I hinted at this in #4. There have been controversial threads in the past re UK parents who didn't approve of vaccinations and didn't want to comply with the regulations in France. This was for "normal" schooling where vaccinations are compulsory, not even homeschooling.
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I am surprised that we have not had posts from those who see the requirement to vaccinate as a violation of Civil Liberties and an imposition by "The Hew World Order" or whatever.
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I am surprised that we have not had posts from those who see the requirement to vaccinate as a violation of Civil Liberties and an imposition by "The Hew World Order" or whatever.
No pricks on the France forum.
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Old Nov 21st 2015, 3:29 pm
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We could import some.
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No pricks on the France forum.
Think so?
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Old Nov 21st 2015, 3:32 pm
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No pricks on the France forum.
On reflection, I think the "revolting" parents were on another European country forum, with the same vaccination regulations as France....
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The normal regulations, not the ones you get in Anglosaxon countries !
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Think so?
I could make an exception.
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Just one?
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Old Jan 21st 2016, 3:57 pm
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Additional info for working parents:
There's no school on Wednesday afternoons, which can be problematic for parents who are working. Largish towns do have Centres Aérés for Primaire and younger Collège children, but not rural Communes.
Wednesday afternoons are popular anyway for all children's social lives (birthday parties) and sporting/cultural activities and they usually need to be taxied everywhere. Children also need to be taxied over the weekend unless their friends live within walking distance, and parents should be prepared for this.
During school time, Primaire normally finishes at 16h00 now but if for some reason the parents can't pick them up, there are various activities organised until 18h00. Collège and Lycée can finish at 16h00 or 17h00 depending on the time-tables and there are usually school buses at both times.
Holidays are also a head-ache for working parents - 2 weeks in February, Spring, Autumn and at Christmas, and 9 weeks in the summer. The larger towns open their Centres Aérés during these periods and there are Colonies de Vacances in the summer, if parents haven't got family to look after their children when they have to work.
If potential expats with children have the choice between a rural Commune and a town, and if they are working, they should consider the time and energy that they must dedicate to their children's school, leisure and social lives, and choose accordingly.
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Hello,
I would like to add some slight modifications to dmu''s complete and accurate description of the French schooling.
First, it is highly recommended for pupils to pass the Brevet des Collèges, but they can go up to Lycées even if they fail.
Second, dmu mentioned home-schooling as something "tolerated." It is not tolerated, it is allowed: schooling is compulsory, but sending your kids to school is not, and no authority can oppose your choice to keep your children at home as long as they are provided with the instruction they need to pass the tests. And as dmu specified, this will be regularly checked by inspector of schools.
More information about maternelles and primary schools: two afternoons a week, the pupils attend the TAP (temps d'activité périscolaire). It is provided by activity leaders working in "centres aérés" or by artists employed for a short time by the mairies. The TAP consist (or are supposed to consist) in introducing children to artistic disciplines (music, theatre, painting, etc...) and sports. In some places it is free, in others it is not, but in any case it is not compulsory. The mairies are entirely in charge of the TAP, and no link has been established between them and the Education Nationale yet.

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Old Jan 23rd 2016, 9:00 pm
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Hello,
I would like to add some slight modifications to dmu''s complete and accurate description of the French schooling.
First, it is highly recommended for pupils to pass the Brevet des Collèges, but they can go up to Lycées even if they fail.
Second, dmu mentioned home-schooling as something "tolerated." It is not tolerated, it is allowed: schooling is compulsory, but sending your kids to school is not, and no authority can oppose your choice to keep your children at home as long as they are provided with the instruction they need to pass the tests. And as dmu specified, this will be regularly checked by inspector of schools.
More information about maternelles and primary schools: two afternoons a week, the pupils attend the TAP (temps d'activité périscolaire). It is provided by activity leaders working in "centres aérés" or by artists employed for a short time by the mairies. The TAP consist (or are supposed to consist) in introducing children to artistic disciplines (music, theatre, painting, etc...) and sports. In some places it is free, in others it is not, but in any case it is not compulsory. The mairies are entirely in charge of the TAP, and no link has been established between them and the Education Nationale yet.
Hi, in my village, as mentioned above, the "TAP" is organised every day from 16h00 to 18h00 for children whose parents can't collect them at 16h00. There's a symbolic participation for each child, and the Mairie makes up the "intervenants"' fees if necessary. At present there's "circus", gardening, extra English, and organised team games in the playground. Before the "reform", I used to help with homework after school, and, unsurprisingly, none of the children chose this option!
No doubt larger towns can organise more cultural activities, but rural Communes can't
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Originally Posted by ElinorD
Hello,
I would like to add some slight modifications to dmu''s complete and accurate description of the French schooling.
First, it is highly recommended for pupils to pass the Brevet des Collèges, but they can go up to Lycées even if they fail.
Second, dmu mentioned home-schooling as something "tolerated." It is not tolerated, it is allowed: schooling is compulsory, but sending your kids to school is not, and no authority can oppose your choice to keep your children at home as long as they are provided with the instruction they need to pass the tests. And as dmu specified, this will be regularly checked by inspector of schools.
More information about maternelles and primary schools: two afternoons a week, the pupils attend the TAP (temps d'activité périscolaire). It is provided by activity leaders working in "centres aérés" or by artists employed for a short time by the mairies. The TAP consist (or are supposed to consist) in introducing children to artistic disciplines (music, theatre, painting, etc...) and sports. In some places it is free, in others it is not, but in any case it is not compulsory. The mairies are entirely in charge of the TAP, and no link has been established between them and the Education Nationale yet.
I believe that the way 'tolerated' was first used can in a general sense be considered correct. One of the definitions of tolerate being: to allow to be, or to be done without prohibition or hindrance.
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