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Collioure_Bee Sep 29th 2008 3:38 am

Permis de Conduite
 
Does anyone know the real truth about getting one of these? My English licence has my mother's address on it which is not a problem and is legal. If I change the address on it, it's going to cost and then cost again every ten years to change the photo.
Are French ones any cheaper? Is it true you have to take a test out here to get one?

Ka Ora! Sep 29th 2008 3:51 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by Collioure_Bee (Post 6830335)
Does anyone know the real truth about getting one of these? My English licence has my mother's address on it which is not a problem and is legal. If I change the address on it, it's going to cost and then cost again every ten years to change the photo.
Are French ones any cheaper? Is it true you have to take a test out here to get one?

It's a case of exchanging it, Which you know you don't have to. It's no cheaper to start with a French One, Personally I find the French one more depressing as you start with 12 Points and they get removed. If your local prefecture can be bothered go for it.

MoonShine Sep 29th 2008 4:52 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by Collioure_Bee (Post 6830335)
Does anyone know the real truth about getting one of these? My English licence has my mother's address on it which is not a problem and is legal. If I change the address on it, it's going to cost and then cost again every ten years to change the photo.
Are French ones any cheaper? Is it true you have to take a test out here to get one?

How much does it cost to change a photo??
I'm rather naive, so for me if you worry about spending money once every 10 yrs, appears strange; Is it expensive or are you Scrooge???!!

Collioure_Bee Sep 29th 2008 5:12 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 
No, I am just peed off with consistantly laying out for things and paying through the nose for them, plus any slight lapse like forgetting to do it on time resulting in fines for nonsense.
The cost of the passport has increased disporportionately, then there is the cost of id cards coming in (is there any point in paying out for a passport AND id card) which I don't want and if I have to have fail to see why I should fork out for it, on top of all the other crap. The UK overcharges for everything, I have just paid out £45 "administration fees" for cancelling car insurance. £45 for someone to do the job they are paid to do, and take five seconds to feed the info into a computer.
To my mind moonshine, ANY fee you are forced to pay for "admin" is too much.

L'Acajou Sep 30th 2008 4:13 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 
Hi

I reckon the easiest and for that matter cheapest option is to keep your UK licence. It is perfectly legal to have a UK licence but live in France, I spoke to a bod at the DVLC a few months ago and because you cannot be forced to change to a French licence they accept that the addresses are not correct as of course they have to show an address and it has to be a UK one.
A few months ago my bag was stolen and amongst other things I lost my UK driving licence. I looked into swapping for a French one, I paid £5 for a certificate of entitlement from DVLA, got forms from the prefecture, got a quote of just over 100 € for it to be translated :eek: ....I'm sure there would be other costs involved. In the end I did a change of address (to a relative in the UK) and loss of licence online and I paid I think about £19. I was aware that this was not strictly correct but felt really strongly that I wanted to keep my UK licence, I use it for ID and it is a part of my identity. To my great relief my licence duly arrived a couple of weeks later...:thumbsup:

I have a friend who has been here over 20 years, she has kept her UK licence and took a test over here years ago so has a French licence too... A UK certificate of entitlement will have more categories than a French one, ie towing a trailer, here it is not automatic and you have to pass a test to tow a trailer, so a cert of entitlement ensures you keep these categories. I passed my test over 25 years ago, not sure if towing a trailer is still an automatic entitlement in the UK.

I don't know how the DVLA view renewing photocards but as we are not obliged to change what is an EU licence I guess they can't stop us? It seems to be £17.50 plus a photo every 10 years, still cost effective against changing to a French one I think. ;) And not as big a rip-off as passports :eek: I have got my application ready to post to the British Consulate and it will be 151€ plus postage. Doubly annoying as there were 5 years left on my (stolen) passport :curse: And I'm told the fees are going up again shortly.:blink: I have had to send for a copy of my marriage cert from the UK, which took two months and cost quite a bit, 100 € in bank cancellation fees, all in all a very very expensive day when some **** took my bag.

Ka Ora! Sep 30th 2008 4:31 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by Collioure_Bee (Post 6830610)
No, I am just peed off with consistantly laying out for things and paying through the nose for them, plus any slight lapse like forgetting to do it on time resulting in fines for nonsense.
The cost of the passport has increased disporportionately, then there is the cost of id cards coming in (is there any point in paying out for a passport AND id card) which I don't want and if I have to have fail to see why I should fork out for it, on top of all the other crap. The UK overcharges for everything, I have just paid out £45 "administration fees" for cancelling car insurance. £45 for someone to do the job they are paid to do, and take five seconds to feed the info into a computer.
To my mind moonshine, ANY fee you are forced to pay for "admin" is too much.

Well the reason you paying a fee is they have to pay some one to go around and look for places to lose the information. That's a lot of foot work you know. Why they don't just pick a name and address at random and send the disks out to I don't know. Then they have to sell the Photo's. I am beginning to believe that it would be better to Stick Al Qaeda in charge. Kill a few bird with one stone, Don't have to look for them better at getting things done on the cheap, And they know were the enemy is. Are we still looking for Charlie?

stanage2 Sep 30th 2008 5:15 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by Collioure_Bee (Post 6830335)
Does anyone know the real truth about getting one of these? My English licence has my mother's address on it which is not a problem and is legal. If I change the address on it, it's going to cost and then cost again every ten years to change the photo.
Are French ones any cheaper? Is it true you have to take a test out here to get one?

You can as said before keep your English licence for as long as you keep it clean in France.
If you plck up points in France,they will make you change it for a French one,so the points can be added.

Novocastrian Sep 30th 2008 6:21 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 
Due to the complexity of my personal history, I have two driving licences, one issued in Ontario which needs renewing every 5 (?) years, and one issued in Germany in 1987, with "unbefristet Gueltigkeit" (unlimited term of validity) and which is also valid anywhere in the EU.

<just thought you'd like to know> :)

stanage2 Sep 30th 2008 6:26 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 6833546)
Due to the complexity of my personal history, I have two driving licences, one issued in Ontario which needs renewing every 5 (?) years, and one issued in Germany in 1987, with "unbefristet Gueltigkeit" (unlimited term of validity) and which is also valid anywhere in the EU.

<just thought you'd like to know> :)

Yes,thank you for that:)
Try to keep them clean;);)

Tweedpipe Sep 30th 2008 6:49 am

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 6833546)
Due to the complexity of my personal history, I have two driving licences, one issued in Ontario which needs renewing every 5 (?) years, and one issued in Germany in 1987, with "unbefristet Gueltigkeit" (unlimited term of validity) and which is also valid anywhere in the EU.

<just thought you'd like to know> :)

Bet my history is more 'complex' than you Novo! :p;)
I currently have 5 driving licences. UK, France, Italy, Hong Kong, Singapore. Qui dit mieux?

Bug**r. Wait for it, I bet Stanage has six...........:curse:

stanage2 Sep 30th 2008 7:26 am

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Originally Posted by Tweedpipe (Post 6833625)
Bet my history is more 'complex' than you Novo! :p;)
I currently have 5 driving licences. UK, France, Italy, Hong Kong, Singapore. Qui dit mieux?

Bug**r. Wait for it, I bet Stanage has six...........:curse:

Only ln packs:cool:

Collioure_Bee Sep 30th 2008 9:03 am

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Cheers for all the help there. Smple then, just keep the good old one stuck together with bits of sellotape.

themoose Sep 30th 2008 7:57 pm

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by Collioure_Bee (Post 6834138)
Cheers for all the help there. Smple then, just keep the good old one stuck together with bits of sellotape.

Sadly you cant have one stuck together with sellotape, they (police) sieze them!

stanage2 Sep 30th 2008 8:25 pm

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Originally Posted by themoose (Post 6835043)
Sadly you cant have one stuck together with sellotape, they (police) sieze them!

Would agree,but only if they see it.:rofl::rofl:

themoose Sep 30th 2008 8:26 pm

Re: Permis de Conduite
 

Originally Posted by stanage2 (Post 6835079)
Would agree,but only if they see it.:rofl::rofl:

always best kept down your pants:ohmy:


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