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Old Jul 30th 2009, 10:07 pm
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Can't seem to get hold of lard to make a hot water crust pastry for a veal and pork pie, have asked the butcher (in french gulp!!!!!!!) NO LARD,as for fresh cream forget it, my neighbour(french) thinks the cream we get in france is fresh cream as in a cream cakes ,would love to let him taste a fresh cream cake!
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Old Jul 31st 2009, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by kit kat
Can't seem to get hold of lard to make a hot water crust pastry for a veal and pork pie, have asked the butcher (in french gulp!!!!!!!) NO LARD,as for fresh cream forget it, my neighbour(french) thinks the cream we get in france is fresh cream as in a cream cakes ,would love to let him taste a fresh cream cake!
I think there have already been threads on fresh cream in France - make a search in box top right.
As for "saindoux", if you asked for "lard", it means bacon in French. Try a "charcutier" (specialized pork butcher), but I can't guarantee that you'll find any for sale. I'm afraid you're probably going to have to experiment with other fats for that recipe... (You can't get suet here, either, by the way)
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Lard we have in the supermarkets here, I bought it by mistake once And Fresh cream is in the Supermarkets as well as Lait Cru (Unpasteurized Milks) Fromage Cru (Cheese from Unpasteurized Milks) it is usually around the eggs and UHT Milk, In some of the Carrefours you can buy Clotted cream as well.
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Go to the butchery counter and ask for "Graisse de boeuf" and you will get lard (sometimes free). Try also "Graisse de canard". Duck fat -superb flavour,to use in your frying pan.
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Go to the butchery counter and ask for "Graisse de boeuf" and you will get lard (sometimes free). Try also "Graisse de canard". Duck fat -superb flavour,to use in your frying pan.
Sorry, but graisse de boeuf is suet! Lard is pork fat and is called saindoux.
But have to agree with you that graisse de canard is delicious to fry things in!
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Sorry, but graisse de boeuf is suet! Lard is pork fat and is called saindoux.
But have to agree with you that graisse de canard is delicious to fry things in!
And you can get Pig Skin to make your own Pork Scratchings, Better than the Duck ones.
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And you can get Pig Skin to make your own Pork Scratchings, Better than the Duck ones.
Confess I don't know what pork scratchings are (would they be "crépinettes"?), but there's a recipe for lapin à la moutarde, rabbit smeared with mustard and wrapped up in that skin (OH calls it "crépine") to stop the rabbit going dry in the oven.
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Originally Posted by Ka Ora!
Lard we have in the supermarkets here, I bought it by mistake once And Fresh cream is in the Supermarkets as well as Lait Cru (Unpasteurized Milks) Fromage Cru (Cheese from Unpasteurized Milks) it is usually around the eggs and UHT Milk, In some of the Carrefours you can buy Clotted cream as well.

Don't know where you are but I wish we could get it ,I've looked round the UHT milk for cream bit all alas in vain.My cousin has lived in Paris for 60years, she is a very good cook and still goes on about the fact you cant get cream.
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Sorry, but graisse de boeuf is suet! Lard is pork fat and is called saindoux.
But have to agree with you that graisse de canard is delicious to fry things in!
OOOOps you are correct. I must lay off the wine.
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Crème fraîche épaisse

Lard : Saindoux -

Lard in French is also : Poitrine fumée.

Bon appétit !! (Bon app' in slang)
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Default Re: No real cream or lard

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Don't know where you are but I wish we could get it ,I've looked round the UHT milk for cream bit all alas in vain.My cousin has lived in Paris for 60years, she is a very good cook and still goes on about the fact you cant get cream.
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Your cousin should move to Normandy. Or just shop more wisely.
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Your cousin should move to Normandy. Or just shop more wisely.


you mean to say you've left some for the rest of us

http://www.isigny-ste-mere.com/EN/p_cremes.php

better be some of that red in E.Leclerc for when I get back
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you mean to say you've left some for the rest of us

http://www.isigny-ste-mere.com/EN/p_cremes.php

better be some of that red in E.Leclerc for when I get back
To tell the truth Val, we've found an alternative at Champion/Carrefour. It's a Cote du Rhone by the name of Les Molieres which sells for the princely sum of 2.60 euro. I know that's a bit rich by your usual standards, but at least the hangover is more manageable (most days).
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