Originally Posted by EuroTrash (Post 13168427)

​​​​​​⠀‹Well; in the past I think you had to have a fiscal number before you could set up a personal space, and normally the way you get your fiscal number as a non resident is when you receive your first property tax bills, which for you won't be until the end of this year.

It was always the case that if you wanted a fiscal number before it was notified to you as a matter of course, you could in theory request one from your local tax office. The thing with that is that some tax offices would issue one without a murmur, some would say No we don't do that, and some wouldn't respond at all. But maybe with this new requirements there will be a proper policy of giving people their number when they request it.

Whatever, I think that's what to do first. Write to your tax office, explain you've recently bought a property and haven't yet had any tax dealings, but you would like a tax number so that you can set up a personal space and meet your obligations. And maybe send them a copy of your French acte de vente, and a copy of your passport and your driving licence showing your UK address, for good measure, they do like their justiificatifs. You could even add a note at the end s, aying if you can't issue me a number, what would you like me to do about completing this declaration. Then wait and see what happens and take it from there. Tax offices in France are a completely different animal from HMRC, if that's who you're used to dealing with - the staff are usually friendly and helpful and they actually seem to like people to contact them when they have questions.

Hope that helps.

Oh and welcome to the forum :welcome:

Originally Posted by EuroTrash (Post 13168427)

​​​​​​⠀‹Well; in the past I think you had to have a fiscal number before you could set up a personal space, and normally the way you get your fiscal number as a non resident is when you receive your first property tax bills, which for you won't be until the end of this year.

It was always the case that if you wanted a fiscal number before it was notified to you as a matter of course, you could in theory request one from your local tax office. The thing with that is that some tax offices would issue one without a murmur, some would say No we don't do that, and some wouldn't respond at all. But maybe with this new requirements there will be a proper policy of giving people their number when they request it.

Whatever, I think that's what to do first. Write to your tax office, explain you've recently bought a property and haven't yet had any tax dealings, but you would like a tax number so that you can set up a personal space and meet your obligations. And maybe send them a copy of your French acte de vente, and a copy of your passport and your driving licence showing your UK address, for good measure, they do like their justiificatifs. You could even add a note at the end s, aying if you can't issue me a number, what would you like me to do about completing this declaration. Then wait and see what happens and take it from there. Tax offices in France are a completely different animal from HMRC, if that's who you're used to dealing with - the staff are usually friendly and helpful and they actually seem to like people to contact them when they have questions.

Hope that helps.

Oh and welcome to the forum :welcome:

Originally Posted by Annetje (Post 13169336)

Just had a look in my personal space with the "Impots" and I don't seem to have a house ;)

I shouldn't laugh really cause they were right, up to november I didn't have one and stayed at my brother's and then I bought this house.
Since I don't see anywhere where I can declare my house, can I assume they will catch up with me and the form will appear later in the year ?

Originally Posted by EuroTrash (Post 13169358)

There's a quite comprehensive list of FAQs here
https://www.impots.gouv.fr/sites/def...n/faq_gmbi.pdf
This one relates to your question
"En cas de mutation d’un bien, que faire si celui-ci n’est pas visible dans le service en ligne « Biens Immobiliers » ?
En cas de mutation d’un bien, lors d’un achat par exemple, il faut attendre que l'enregistrement soit effectif et donc que votre bien soit visible dans « Biens Immobiliers ». Dans le cas où vous ne pouvez pas remplir votre obligation déclarative avant le 30 juin, vous devez en informer l’administration via la messagerie sécurisée disponible dans votre espace particulier ou professionnel sur impots.gouv.fr. "

Originally Posted by Annetje (Post 13169360)

"devez en informer l’administration" ...
which is very funny since I wouldn't have known about this form if you good people hadn't talked about it.

My lesson for today : try to keep up to date with whatever the impots are up to ... (That'll keep me busy ;))

Thanks for your info !!!

Originally Posted by EuroTrash (Post 13168427)

Well; in the past I think you had to have a fiscal number before you could set up a personal space, and normally the way you get your fiscal number as a non resident is when you receive your first property tax bills, which for you won't be until the end of this year.

It was always the case that if you wanted a fiscal number before it was notified to you as a matter of course, you could in theory request one from your local tax office. The thing with that is that some tax offices would issue one without a murmur, some would say No we don't do that, and some wouldn't respond at all. But maybe with this new requirements there will be a proper policy of giving people their number when they request it.

Whatever, I think that's what to do first. Write to your tax office, explain you've recently bought a property and haven't yet had any tax dealings, but you would like a tax number so that you can set up a personal space and meet your obligations. And maybe send them a copy of your French acte de vente, and a copy of your passport and your driving licence showing your UK address, for good measure, they do like their justiificatifs. You could even add a note at the end s, aying if you can't issue me a number, what would you like me to do about completing this declaration. Then wait and see what happens and take it from there. Tax offices in France are a completely different animal from HMRC, if that's who you're used to dealing with - the staff are usually friendly and helpful and they actually seem to like people to contact them when they have questions.

Hope that helps.

Oh and welcome to the forum :welcome:

Originally Posted by danhollins (Post 13171405)

Quick update. Wrote to the local tax office on the 27th January, following Eurotrash's advice. Had an email about an hour ago with my Fiscal number, logged onto impot.gouv.fr and registered etc. Declaration completed. Thanks for the invaluble advice.