jackies

Hi everyone im so glad to have found this site, hopefully i will get a lot of advice, we are buying a old farmhouse in france, it does have a septic tank but it doesnt conform to the new regulations so it has to be changed can anyone advise me where to purchase the new tanks and also give me a price bracket.
Thanks Jackie

jdr

Have you read the previous posts ? I think there is a lot of info in them about it.

chezjules

try contacting http://www.klar-environnement.com/co...ce.asp?lang=EN they are very helpful if a little overwhelmed by enquiries . . . . .

val50

Hi and welcome,
if you put fosse septique into the search box at the top of the page you will be able to find all the previous posts on this subject. Also a lot of info out there on google too.
Nowdays thought, the soil and sub-soil must be acceptable to the
Syndicat des Eaux.
You will need to have installed a fosse septique which complies with the latest regulations; this is called a toute eaux. All the grey water must be discharged into the fosse along with the septic waste from WCs.
You will probably find your Mairie has a list of local artisans who could give you a devi for doing the work. Prices seem to range from 5000 euros upwards depending on the circumstances etc.

Renauld

I've just done a the deal for a Corail10 system through http://www.fosses-septiques.fr/index.php

It's a big outlay so be careful!

Buyer Beware!!!!
Old Rocker!

chezjules

choose a corail 10 over a Klargester? Renaud, you clearly have no knowledge of the subject - Corail10 is a kenwood chef sellotaped into a water recovery tank and is definately NOT certified to new european regulations - knocked together in someones garage and sold under three brand names in France to fool idiots - be serious!

Klargester IS definitely certified to FR EN 12566-3 and is the most used system in Europe/probably the world

Anyway, Klargester is an Irish company, so you obviously have your facts wrong there, and Bob who used to help there for France is now employed at their largest competitor as country manager, so wrong again . . . .

As the definitive rules for waste treatment in France will be clarified very soon one thing is certain, don't spend one centime on a system that isn't CERTIFIED to FR EN 12566 and marked CE for performance (not just for fabrication or electrical compliance) or you will not be to normes. This applies to waste treatment systems to FR EN 12566-3 or "normal" fosse toutes eaux which need to be tested and approved to FR EN 12566-1 (and 99% currently on general sale in France aren't so be choosy)

as Renauld said "It's a big outlay so be careful!

Buyer Beware!!!!"

Dont take any old advice from well meaning (or maybe vindictive?) old buffoons - check out the facts

talk is cheap

PaulGappyNorris

Hi all, I'm a bit late on this one, but some very useful information between you all!

Anyone heard of the 'Adis' brand of micro-station for waste recovery/water recycling? It is an option we have been given instead of a conventional F. Septique.

Ka Ora!

Cant say i have but is it one of the ones that injects air in to the break down tank as quite a few of these are good, Or is it one of the Water bead treatment plants.

PaulGappyNorris

Yes, it's an air-pump system, with 'reasonably' recyclable water (OK for gardening perhaps). I'm not sure if we should go for the traditional 'crap-catcher' type with a sand run-off or try a new system like this?

Ka Ora!

Well if you have the space i would look at a reed bed system as well, If they are set up right then you can swim in the water that comes out.

treskillard

I knew a dutchman who put a reed bed system in. He said it worked but could not deal with antibiotics nor hormones (the pill). People using these products were asked not to use the loo that went into the reed bed. He said the products concentrated in the water.

Ka Ora!

That is the case with all bacterial treatment systems, So even if you have a Fosse septic (Not Touts Eau) those forms of medicine will kill off the bacteria and stop the break down, So for people that are having to empty there systems too often it's worth looking at what is being consumed in the house. A Touts Eau just contains all exit water and waste add will need emtying as soon as it is full Unlike a fosse which breaks down the Hard matter and some cleansing of the exit water is done.

treskillard

The dutchman wanted to re-use the water in the house. Because of the problem of concentration the water couldn't be used for drinking.

The other trick he had was a home made solar panel system. He made a flat box into which he ran a copper water pipe. This snaked up and down so that in a box 1 metre by 1 metre for example there must have been 40 metres of piping if not more. The pipe then ran out of the box and into the house to the shower. Around the piping in the box he wrapped the black ribbony stuff that he recuperated from old car batteries after washing the acid off I don't know how. The box was then closed in with glass. When the sun was out this system produced enough water to run the showers and the kitchen in the summers.

Ka Ora!

I have seen a system like that at the Center for alternative Tech in Machynlleth, Wales always worth a visit http://www.cat.org.uk/index.tmpl?refer=index&init=1
Lots of information on Green methods etc.

JonC

On the other hand, the Corail might be basic but it does claim to have the certification - NF EN 12566-3.

Jon