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Old May 27th 2017, 2:24 pm
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Hi 2 years on and still dreaming of a place in France.

Here in the UK, and within a mile or so of where we live, we are under threat from fracking. Our council voted against it but the UK government has imposed it on us and our beautiful area is under threat of (direct quote) 'becoming the largest gas field in Europe'. The fracking site is the scene of daily protests, a huge police presence (when frankly at the moment they should be concentrating their efforts elsewhere) and police brutality is becoming the norm.

Just wondering what the current situation is in France - specifically in Occitanie? We heard it had been banned (as in other European countries) but a French lady we were talking to at a local protest said it was going to happen in Nord Pas de Calais and I can't seem to find anything up to date on the internet. It really is a dreadful industry and I want to avoid it at all costs!

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Hi 2 years on and still dreaming of a place in France.

Here in the UK, and within a mile or so of where we live, we are under threat from fracking. Our council voted against it but the UK government has imposed it on us and our beautiful area is under threat of (direct quote) 'becoming the largest gas field in Europe'. The fracking site is the scene of daily protests, a huge police presence (when frankly at the moment they should be concentrating their efforts elsewhere) and police brutality is becoming the norm.

Just wondering what the current situation is in France - specifically in Occitanie? We heard it had been banned (as in other European countries) but a French lady we were talking to at a local protest said it was going to happen in Nord Pas de Calais and I can't seem to find anything up to date on the internet. It really is a dreadful industry and I want to avoid it at all costs!

Thanks in advance.
I cannot answer your question but would you explain what you mean by police brutality?

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Old May 27th 2017, 8:26 pm
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I cannot answer your question but would you explain what you mean by police brutality?
Not sure but it may be a euphemism for maintaining law and order......
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Fracking is the way forward for inexpensive, and abundant energy. The dragging of governmental heels, in the short term, will not prevent it. It is coming.

However, the footprint of a fracking plant is far smaller, and much less intrusive - especially in the long term, than wind turbine establishments ever will be. Add the fact that there is no strobing, no audible nuisance, and birds are not imperilled, plus the fact that establishing a wind farm takes ages, is disruptive, with heavy traffic, and the building of huge concrete installations to support the turbines, and the resulting visual blight upon the countryside, there really is no contest. Fracking is by far the preferable option, despite unfounded scare sources.

Under Sarkozy and later Hollande, fracking was banned in France - no doubt that is even more the case now, under his protege, Macron. But fracking is coming, eventually. In the interests of everyone, it can't come soon enough.
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As Chris'n'Julie say(s), at the moment fracking is banned and France's energy policies are focused primarily on energy efficiency but who knows what the future will bring, policies have to evolve as situations change. Maybe if the UK fracks enough, France can buy energy from them and won't need to spoil its own environment
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Fracking is the way forward for inexpensive, and abundant energy. The dragging of governmental heels, in the short term, will not prevent it. It is coming.

However, the footprint of a fracking plant is far smaller, and much less intrusive - especially in the long term, than wind turbine establishments ever will be. Add the fact that there is no strobing, no audible nuisance, and birds are not imperilled, plus the fact that establishing a wind farm takes ages, is disruptive, with heavy traffic, and the building of huge concrete installations to support the turbines, and the resulting visual blight upon the countryside, there really is no contest. Fracking is by far the preferable option, despite unfounded scare sources.

Under Sarkozy and later Hollande, fracking was banned in France - no doubt that is even more the case now, under his protege, Macron. But fracking is coming, eventually. In the interests of everyone, it can't come soon enough.
Absolute tosh. Ever heard of climate change?
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Originally Posted by Chris'nJulie
Fracking is the way forward for inexpensive, and abundant energy. The dragging of governmental heels, in the short term, will not prevent it. It is coming.

However, the footprint of a fracking plant is far smaller, and much less intrusive - especially in the long term, than wind turbine establishments ever will be. Add the fact that there is no strobing, no audible nuisance, and birds are not imperilled, plus the fact that establishing a wind farm takes ages, is disruptive, with heavy traffic, and the building of huge concrete installations to support the turbines, and the resulting visual blight upon the countryside, there really is no contest. Fracking is by far the preferable option, despite unfounded scare sources.

Under Sarkozy and later Hollande, fracking was banned in France - no doubt that is even more the case now, under his protege, Macron. But fracking is coming, eventually. In the interests of everyone, it can't come soon enough.
I wasn't aware that Macron was Hollande's protégé?
As every one has said,"fracturation hydraulique" is banned in France, and IMO rightly so, one of the reasons being that it consumes much too much precious water.
I imagine that, with Nicolas Hulot as Minister of Ecology, there won't be any change in legislation for the next 5 years....
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Hi Leapylee,
Fracking is possible in certain areas because of the geology.
Look for areas where fracking is unlikely.
If you think that the police in the UK are brutal then you wouldn't like the french police.
The CRS take no prisoners when they deal with the public.
Do wind farms upset you because there are loads of them in France?
Do nuclear power stations upset you because there are many of those also?
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Old May 29th 2017, 12:54 pm
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Thanks for the replies. Don't really want to get into a discussion about whether fracking is a good or bad thing. We all have, and are entitled to, our own opinion & I have mine after being under threat of it now for several years and reading up about the industry.
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I live 200 miles south of Dallas. Fracking and seismic activity is a concern. This article seems like a good one - it's balanced for one which most aren't. I would also be concerned about living in an area near fracking.
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-solve-mystery
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Originally Posted by petitefrancaise
I live 200 miles south of Dallas. Fracking and seismic activity is a concern. This article seems like a good one - it's balanced for one which most aren't. I would also be concerned about living in an area near fracking.
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-solve-mystery
The article is behind a paywall for me, pf. Can you post a different link to the material?
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The article is behind a paywall for me, pf. Can you post a different link to the material?
no. but I have adblockplus extension and that seems to have removed the paywall.
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Originally Posted by petitefrancaise
no. but I have adblockplus extension and that seems to have removed the paywall.
I'm running adblock too (in Safari, OSX). Not to worry.
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Originally Posted by petitefrancaise
I live 200 miles south of Dallas. Fracking and seismic activity is a concern. This article seems like a good one - it's balanced for one which most aren't. I would also be concerned about living in an area near fracking.
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-solve-mystery
Thank you for that - it makes interesting, if worrying, reading.

We have already experienced 1 earthquake back in 2011 following the first attempt at fracking in the area and which resulted in the well (& fracking in the UK) being abandoned and there has since been problems with the well structure necessitating remedial work. A lot of land in the Fylde area is unstable anyway and there are already many instances of building subsidence (pre fracking).
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