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Old Sep 17th 2014, 8:51 am
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Rural Hmmm

I would say we are Rural, 30 mins to supermarket/town. 20 mins to petrol garage. But we do have a local shop and we do have mains sewage.

Internet speed isn't great. But it works for our needs.

Houses take a while to sell here, but I think like most Brits we have over priced. We don't know if we want to sell. So we have gone down the line if someone offers us what we paid then that would make our decision for us.

I would say definitely look into wood burners for the cheapest heating. We have been thinking about getting one with a back boiler to heat some radiators.

I'm not sure we have picked the best estate agents to be fair. We have found out one is an alchoholic who has memory problems. The other one got all our details wrong on their website and won't put us in their shop window, which was the only reason we chose them.

I think you definitely make some silly offers at the moment though. No harm in trying.
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Old Sep 17th 2014, 9:39 am
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I would say definitely look into wood burners for the cheapest heating. We have been thinking about getting one with a back boiler to heat some radiators.

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'poêle à granulés' is best I think for a small house
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Old Sep 17th 2014, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by touraine
'poêle à granulés' is best I think for a small house
We looked at that, no space for the hopper, at least I think that's what it's called.
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Old Sep 17th 2014, 10:21 am
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We looked at that, no space for the hopper, at least I think that's what it's called.
I am not talking about a Chaudière to heat your radiators with pellets.

A good 'poêle à granulés' will heat four seperate rooms plus the room that it is in.

If your buying a small house in the middle of nowhere allocate 8000 euros to buy and install one of these.
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Originally Posted by touraine
I am not talking about a Chaudière to heat your radiators with pellets.

A good 'poêle à granulés' will heat four seperate rooms plus the room that it is in.

If your buying a small house in the middle of nowhere allocate 8000 euros to buy and install one of these.
Not if your walls are a foot thick...
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Not if your walls are a foot thick...
Why ?
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Why ?
Because heat doesn't radiate through them very well, Been there done it if you have an old stone house with thick internal walls radiators will shift the heat around in a far more efficient manner.
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Because heat doesn't radiate through them very well, Been there done it if you have an old stone house with thick internal walls radiators will shift the heat around in a far more efficient manner.
Does not work like that.

A good 'poêle' will have two exits (sorties) at the back which then can be split into two......so in effect you have four 'sorties'. You then run tubbing to the four rooms you wish to heat. A pump on the Poêle then 'pumps' the heat around the house. Yes it require s a little work to tube the house but it is not that hard.

A poêle à granulés is electronic so you regulate the heat, programme it come on and off at certain times.

Personally, I think it is the best and cheapest heating solution.
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Yes you're quite right about how it works tourain and the thickness of the walls is only an issue for taking the "tubbing" through.

I did read a while back that they are now concerned that carcinogens may be produced by the extremely high temperatures involved in these kind of poeles. Apparently it is the house dust which has settled on the outside (which is mainly human skin) which is carbonized, vaporized and then inhaled.

Just one more problem.

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Originally Posted by touraine
Personally, I think it is the best and cheapest heating solution.
Each to their own..... Simples
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Each to their own..... Simples
True.....but how do you heat your water to pump around your radiators if you don't have gas ?
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Originally Posted by touraine
True.....but how do you heat your water to pump around your radiators if you don't have gas ?
Well lets see there is wood and whats that greasy stuff called oh yes oil. We don't use gas.

imho Air is a form of insulation so using it as a heat conductor is poor thermodynamics by heating a liquid mass your placing the heat source in each room creating better thermal conductivity.
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Originally Posted by Chatter Static
Well lets see there is wood and whats that greasy stuff called oh yes oil. We don't use gas.

imho Air is a form of insulation so using it as a heat conductor is poor thermodynamics by heating a liquid mass your placing the heat source in each room creating better thermal conductivity.
?????

I have no idea what you are going on about. I don't want a bl00dy physics lesson. How do you heat your home. You have oil in your radiators ????
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Well lets see there is wood and whats that greasy stuff called oh yes oil. We don't use gas.

imho Air is a form of insulation so using it as a heat conductor is poor thermodynamics by heating a liquid mass your placing the heat source in each room creating better thermal conductivity.
How is this different?

You're placing the heat source (?oil filled radiators - they do exist) in the rooms to heat up the air in the room - that's how the room gets warm. Unless you're sitting on it to warm up your bum- then it's conduction!
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Originally Posted by petitefrancaise
How is this different?

You're placing the heat source (?oil filled radiators - they do exist) in the rooms to heat up the air in the room - that's how the room gets warm. Unless you're sitting on it to warm up your bum- then it's conduction!
The radiators are filled with water, oil heats the water or wood heats the water. But you can purchased oil filled radiators they are usually electric though the increased viscosity improves the thermal conductivity or something like that.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/b?node=11712371

Air will warm faster but it will cool faster.

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