Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
[QUOTE=Hels]
You don't think you are perhaps being a little "media-gullible???
You don't think the Brits do the same thing? You don't think you are just hearing about all the Aussies because... you are in Australia???
I posted earlier a BBC article about Brits returning from the US after the Hurricane....and shock and horror...this was ignored because everyone was to busy Aussie Bashing....People are moaning just as much about loved ones not getting the level of help from the UK Government as they are here in Australia...
I think its just human nature to want to look after your own.....
Ermm, "Media Gullible" ??? Do you not rely on the media for your information then ? Oh, I see, YOU just believe the bits that are true........
I think you are a little paranoid and need to get a grip, I'm not really interested in a discussion that could be described as "Aussie Bashing". I thought it was running a bit deaper than that, but if that's what you want, good luck to you. Take it easy, IJ.
Originally Posted by Innyjim
You don't think you are perhaps being a little "media-gullible???
You don't think the Brits do the same thing? You don't think you are just hearing about all the Aussies because... you are in Australia???
I posted earlier a BBC article about Brits returning from the US after the Hurricane....and shock and horror...this was ignored because everyone was to busy Aussie Bashing....People are moaning just as much about loved ones not getting the level of help from the UK Government as they are here in Australia...
I think its just human nature to want to look after your own.....
I think you are a little paranoid and need to get a grip, I'm not really interested in a discussion that could be described as "Aussie Bashing". I thought it was running a bit deaper than that, but if that's what you want, good luck to you. Take it easy, IJ.
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
Originally Posted by Innyjim
Sorry, I have to take fault with your well composed and punctuated reply.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a "round the yacht seaman" ? Is this someone that circumnavigates yachts ? Is this done in the boatyard or on water ? Is it a risky pursuit that requires frequent rescue of it's participants ?
Climbers and other adventurers are, for the most part, trained and experienced individuals who caculate risks of a given expedition based on all information available. I hardly think that Aussies ignoring the advice to evacuate could ever be described as adventurers out of the depth.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a "round the yacht seaman" ? Is this someone that circumnavigates yachts ? Is this done in the boatyard or on water ? Is it a risky pursuit that requires frequent rescue of it's participants ?
Climbers and other adventurers are, for the most part, trained and experienced individuals who caculate risks of a given expedition based on all information available. I hardly think that Aussies ignoring the advice to evacuate could ever be described as adventurers out of the depth.
Are you always this pedantic ? If so why ?
Are you telling me despite my poor grammar the you seriously could not understand the gist of my post ?
I dont think my method of communication dilutes the argument.
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
[QUOTE=Innyjim]
It's the duty of all nations, to protect their citizens as best they can. The fact that Australia has better capacity than most to do this, is besides the point.
The main focus of the debate should be, why did the Americans put money before People.
Originally Posted by Hels
I agree with you 100%, but I think that difference in Australia is that the families of the individuals have made complaints to Johnny Howard, via the media, that his Government are doing too little to help Australians caught up in this disaster. I am truely sorry for these Aussies who had to endure bullying in the Superdome, as I am beyond sorrow for the individuals who had to deal with rape and murder. I'm just uncomfortable with the fact that some Australians feel that they are due preferential treatment, be they caught up in a disaster zone or perhaps caught smuggling drugs into Asia......
The main focus of the debate should be, why did the Americans put money before People.
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
[QUOTE=Hels]
You don't think you are perhaps being a little "media-gullible???
You don't think the Brits do the same thing? You don't think you are just hearing about all the Aussies because... you are in Australia???
I posted earlier a BBC article about Brits returning from the US after the Hurricane....and shock and horror...this was ignored because everyone was to busy Aussie Bashing....People are moaning just as much about loved ones not getting the level of help from the UK Government as they are here in Australia...
I think its just human nature to want to look after your own.....
I agree totally with Hels, if you were in the same situation you too would want your governments help. On the UK news at the moment Tony Blair is having to defend himself and his government about why they were slow to react and not help. After every disaster its the same. I just think that those who go on about Aussie's whinging are being a little sensitive and who are probably pissed off with Oz for one reason or another and seeing people on TV talking about their needs they just see them as whingers. Bet if the Oz news media played bits of the Brits who are now landing in the UK with their own terror stories and the Oz media branded them as whinging Poms, the people slating the Aussies would defend the Brits attitudes.
Originally Posted by Innyjim
You don't think you are perhaps being a little "media-gullible???
You don't think the Brits do the same thing? You don't think you are just hearing about all the Aussies because... you are in Australia???
I posted earlier a BBC article about Brits returning from the US after the Hurricane....and shock and horror...this was ignored because everyone was to busy Aussie Bashing....People are moaning just as much about loved ones not getting the level of help from the UK Government as they are here in Australia...
I think its just human nature to want to look after your own.....
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Are you always this pedantic ? If so why ?
Are you telling me despite my poor grammar the you seriously could not understand the gist of my post ?
I dont think my method of communication dilutes the argument.
Are you telling me despite my poor grammar the you seriously could not understand the gist of my post ?
I dont think my method of communication dilutes the argument.
I'm really sorry, and you're right of course. The Australian Government should have sent in a squadron of choppers from a huge aircraft carrier that was anchored off the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. These could then have hovered over the Superdome whilst SAS dropped from ropes and stormed the building, popping caps in the asses of any Johnny Foreigners who stood in their way. Once all the Aussie Battlers were rounded up by the brave troops, they could've hot footed it back to the choppers under a hail of constant gunfire and disappeared into the sunset.....
Perhaps they could make a film about it in a year or two starring Mel Gibson and Bryan Brown ?
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
Originally Posted by Innyjim
Sorry, I have to take fault with your well composed and punctuated reply.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a "round the yacht seaman" ? Is this someone that circumnavigates yachts ? Is this done in the boatyard or on water ? Is it a risky pursuit that requires frequent rescue of it's participants ?
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a "round the yacht seaman" ? Is this someone that circumnavigates yachts ? Is this done in the boatyard or on water ? Is it a risky pursuit that requires frequent rescue of it's participants ?
Oh in if I have smelt anything worng don't bother pointing it oot
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
Originally Posted by Innyjim
Mostly I am, yeah, it makes me feel superior in arguments.
I'm really sorry, and you're right of course. The Australian Government should have sent in a squadron of choppers from a huge aircraft carrier that was anchored off the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. These could then have hovered over the Superdome whilst SAS dropped from ropes and stormed the building, popping caps in the asses of any Johnny Foreigners who stood in their way. Once all the Aussie Battlers were rounded up by the brave troops, they could've hot footed it back to the choppers under a hail of constant gunfire and disappeared into the sunset.....
Perhaps they could make a film about it in a year or two starring Mel Gibson and Bryan Brown ?
I'm really sorry, and you're right of course. The Australian Government should have sent in a squadron of choppers from a huge aircraft carrier that was anchored off the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. These could then have hovered over the Superdome whilst SAS dropped from ropes and stormed the building, popping caps in the asses of any Johnny Foreigners who stood in their way. Once all the Aussie Battlers were rounded up by the brave troops, they could've hot footed it back to the choppers under a hail of constant gunfire and disappeared into the sunset.....
Perhaps they could make a film about it in a year or two starring Mel Gibson and Bryan Brown ?
There are Australian forces working in America on training missions, flying 100 pct Australian Equipment, and using 100 pct Australian personal. Despite a request from the Australian Government, they were not allowed to be Utilized
Best you tune to 3AW here in Melbourne I think.
Your going from the sublime to the ridiculous why ?
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
[QUOTE=the Wombats]
I just think that those who go on about Aussie's whinging are being a little sensitive and who are probably pissed off with Oz for one reason or another and seeing people on TV talking about their needs they just see them as whingers. Bet if the Oz news media played bits of the Brits who are now landing in the UK with their own terror stories and the Oz media branded them as whinging Poms, the people slating the Aussies would defend the Brits attitudes.
This has got nothing to do with Aussies vs Poms. I don't give a rats where the people came from. Anyone, from any country, who travels overseas, ignores well-publicised instructions to evacuate a city in imminent danger (no doubt because they believe 'it won't happen to me') and THEN whinges because their government won't pull out all stops to rescue them should have their passports confiscated.
Why? Because they're too thick to own one.
Originally Posted by Hels
I just think that those who go on about Aussie's whinging are being a little sensitive and who are probably pissed off with Oz for one reason or another and seeing people on TV talking about their needs they just see them as whingers. Bet if the Oz news media played bits of the Brits who are now landing in the UK with their own terror stories and the Oz media branded them as whinging Poms, the people slating the Aussies would defend the Brits attitudes.
Why? Because they're too thick to own one.
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
[QUOTE=nickyc]
This has got nothing to do with Aussies vs Poms. I don't give a rats where the people came from. Anyone, from any country, who travels overseas, ignores well-publicised instructions to evacuate a city in imminent danger (no doubt because they believe 'it won't happen to me') and THEN whinges because their government won't pull out all stops to rescue them should have their passports confiscated.
Why? Because they're too thick to own one.
Thank god for that ! I thought I was the only sane one on here !
Originally Posted by the Wombats
This has got nothing to do with Aussies vs Poms. I don't give a rats where the people came from. Anyone, from any country, who travels overseas, ignores well-publicised instructions to evacuate a city in imminent danger (no doubt because they believe 'it won't happen to me') and THEN whinges because their government won't pull out all stops to rescue them should have their passports confiscated.
Why? Because they're too thick to own one.
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
My 2 cents are that the place is flooded, and makes it extremely hard to rescue etc. Storms, cyclones etc cause major destruction but cars, trucks, earth moving equipment, planes, ambulances, etc can get in and do what they do.
Also a big problem now is drugs, or lack of drugs. There are alot of druggies there and would now be going through withdrawals, and I reckon that would have a lot to do with some of the shootings there.
Also a big problem now is drugs, or lack of drugs. There are alot of druggies there and would now be going through withdrawals, and I reckon that would have a lot to do with some of the shootings there.
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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Also a big problem now is drugs, or lack of drugs. There are alot of druggies there and would now be going through withdrawals, .
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
Originally Posted by jad n rich
A little bit south of the main zone but yep highly possible, and long overdue if what the locals say is correct
Prefer that to the southern states, risking a few zillion acre bushfire put me right off when we visted a school near emerald and it had a nice metal room for the kids in the event of major bushfire coming through before they could get out
Anyway lets hope we dont get to see how our emergency services cope this summer.
Prefer that to the southern states, risking a few zillion acre bushfire put me right off when we visted a school near emerald and it had a nice metal room for the kids in the event of major bushfire coming through before they could get out
Anyway lets hope we dont get to see how our emergency services cope this summer.
One of the things that is not backward is the Australian BOM. The breath of stats, updated daily is amazing.
One of my fav sites.
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Originally Posted by moneypen20
Same the world over. You can have a major disaster anywhere in the world and your country's media will start off with how many of your countrymen were involved. Aus is no different to anywhere else. You tend to look after your own before looking after others. Human nature. Unfortunately the US government don't appear to have read that bit of the manual yet.
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
I knew a man who had single handedly sailed across the Atlantic.
He had a crew of 6 but had his left arm amputated many years before.
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He had a crew of 6 but had his left arm amputated many years before.
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Re: Whingeing Aussies in New Orleans
Originally Posted by Badge
The Sun newspaper would say xx no of 'Britons' etc. Many countries focus on their own nationals - it brings an international story into perspective for nationals.
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Seems like the Americans are targetting FEMA and expenditure diversion to Iraq for blame. I was stunned to find out that the head of FEMA didn't know what was going on in when the press had been reporting the issues for 48 hours. Many have noted the more rapid response the Tsunami received in supposedly third world nations. In these events a rapid response saves lives and sadly many have died due to the tardy responses. That people are dieing of thirst and water born diseases, whilst woman are miscarrying in the heat and whilst the old and infirm die of heat stroke I am truly shocked and saddened at the FEMA response.