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FeeFee Dec 30th 2007 8:56 pm

Non-resident status in Belgium
 
From my research, an expat working in Belgium will be treated as a resident tax-wise and will be taxed on their world wide income unless they can prove a non-resident status. Does anyone know how difficult it is to obtain the non-resident status while working a full time permanent job in Belgium, while remaining as a foreign citizen?

Thanks.

Ray51 Jan 1st 2008 8:25 am

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
It appears unlikely that any correct answers to your query will be publicised in this manner ;
you could p.m. me with a bit more info , perhaps we can have a chat about it , sometime ?
Cheers & Bonne Anee !

eurotramp Jan 8th 2008 4:24 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
Hi Ray..

do you remember me?
How is it going?

Ray51 Jan 8th 2008 4:35 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
Yes , I do ; and I have empathy for your English blues ; now , next , the pound will crash against the Euro , and many of your Brit-neighbours will find themselves in dire financ. straits ( serves most them : right ! Biig Spenders , on their multi-credit cards !);
Germany is quite a bit more civilised to live nowadays , methinks ;
( even though , foodwise or chic-wise : not ever a patch on Belgique ! )
We're fine here , also sailing into a reccession , not that the natives don't deserve it - and don't even start me on the immigrants , gypsies , roumanian beggars , albanian prossies , crime everywhere , fiulth , grime & total decline of EUrope , as we once knew it !
Time to pack up and move on !!!???

eurotramp Jan 8th 2008 5:09 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 

Originally Posted by Ray51 (Post 5758589)
Yes , I do ; and I have empathy for your English blues ; now , next , the pound will crash against the Euro , and many of your Brit-neighbours will find themselves in dire financ. straits ( serves most them : right ! Biig Spenders , on their multi-credit cards !);
Germany is quite a bit more civilised to live nowadays , methinks ;
( even though , foodwise or chic-wise : not ever a patch on Belgique ! )
We're fine here , also sailing into a reccession , not that the natives don't deserve it - and don't even start me on the immigrants , gypsies , roumanian beggars , albanian prossies , crime everywhere , fiulth , grime & total decline of EUrope , as we once knew it !
Time to pack up and move on !!!???

For us or for you?:o

I'm still glad I'm out of Belgium...nothing changed there..but I wished we could live in a different part of the uk..unfortunate here is were Nato is.
Don't know why..just 2 hours out of here our 350k we want to spent on a house would buy us something were nice and it would be much nicer all around.
There are so many nice areas like the lake district..I just love it there..see I still like the UK very much..just not here:unsure:

Yes..hopefully the house prices will come down now..but Gordi is fighting it:thumbdown: just don't think there is much he can do now...self inflicted is all I can say about it...:sneaky:

So..you thinking of leaving..were too?

Ray51 Jan 8th 2008 5:29 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
Since I was a teenager , I always think of leaving !( and then : do , exxxxactly that ! )
Been there , done that , many T-shirts are long ago torn and forgotten :
Switzerland , South Africa , U.K. , Canada , Dubai , Slovenia , Surrey again ,
Hong Kong , BeNeLux ( really : not at all bad ! ) , where next ?
Spain , Cyprus , Croatia , friends are strongly hinting at Oz...who knows ?
For my money , I'd prefer Saarbruecken or Karlsruhe or Muenchen , anyday !

eurotramp Jan 8th 2008 5:43 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
I find that .. the more country's you live in, the more difficult it is to find the place you want to live in...because every country has something nice you don't want to miss...saying that..I have not find anything I miss from Belgium:D

We could have gone to Heidelberg and I really would had liked it..but with our older daughter being almost 13 and doing really well in school here..it would have been difficult for her going to a German school..she is not speaking German and I was not keen on the international school over there..
Oh well...I just want a house now and settle down.
It is ridicules really..I'm 47 we have a income of 60.000 and we are still not able to buy a simple house..:(

Hope you find some were nice next and wish you all the best;)

Ray51 Jan 8th 2008 5:53 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
Thanks !
Belgium has been very good to me/us - I'll be sad to leave here , although the wife is forever going on , about the weather ( mostly ! ) ;
for excellent medical services , reasonable CoL , fab food , easy travel in/out - by car/TGV/plains , ease of living in/around Brussels...one has to go far , to find anything comparable !
As an ex-resident of Hampstead and Surrey , I'd never again think of giving up on Belgium , to end up there again ...
But , each to their own , cheers !

eurotramp Jan 8th 2008 9:28 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
Ah yes,,the weather...I must say, we have much nicer weather over here, then we had in Belgium...more sunshine during the winter. Looking back..it seems to me that there were much more Grey days and defiantly more rainy days..
Maybe it is much better if you live in Brussels..but Mons is just awful:huh:

Never mind, nice talking to you again :cool:..wish you all the best were ever you go;)

Sorry for hijacking the thread:o

Fenton Jan 15th 2008 10:48 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
We are thinking of moving to Belguim to, as we wold love to live in Ypres, is the tax as bad as people say ( we havent really started looking too seriously yet)..

eurotramp Jan 16th 2008 12:32 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 

Originally Posted by Fenton (Post 5793520)
We are thinking of moving to Belguim to, as we wold love to live in Ypres, is the tax as bad as people say ( we havent really started looking too seriously yet)..

We never had to pay taxes..but I have heard that is is pretty bad..we only paid Taxes buying a house and that was pretty steep..buying a 150.000 house did cost us 25.000 all icl.

globalart4u Jan 18th 2008 2:21 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 
not sure if this will help

http://www.investinwallonia.be/ofi-b...ate%202003.pdf

Ray51 Jan 18th 2008 11:43 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 

Originally Posted by eurotramp (Post 5796328)
We never had to pay taxes..but I have heard that is is pretty bad..

The income tax , on ordinary employment income , is punitive ;
some other taxes ( dividends , shares , rentals , wealth , investments etc ) : much less so !
Then you have here any number of foreigners , from the EU-lands and from elsewheres , who are not in ordinary employment ,
thus : they can benefit from allsorts of tax arrangements , special treatments and relaxations :
...truly weird'n'wonderful ; even if/when they are residents , temporary or permanent ...
( but , this is a complex and v. confidential subject , to be approached with supreme caution and correct exchange of info ...'nuff said ! ) .
Cheers !

davesmithsrm Jan 23rd 2008 11:18 am

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 

Originally Posted by Ray51 (Post 5807937)
The income tax , on ordinary employment income , is punitive ;
some other taxes ( dividends , shares , rentals , wealth , investments etc ) : much less so !
Then you have here any number of foreigners , from the EU-lands and from elsewheres , who are not in ordinary employment ,
thus : they can benefit from allsorts of tax arrangements , special treatments and relaxations :
...truly weird'n'wonderful ; even if/when they are residents , temporary or permanent ...
( but , this is a complex and v. confidential subject , to be approached with supreme caution and correct exchange of info ...'nuff said ! ) .
Cheers !

Indeed, i moved over with work and a well known worldwide taxation specialist company are involved in sorting my taxation.

I have moved over as an ex-pat and benefit from some special status (i forgot what it is called now) and the company takes care of all tax returns.

I also filled a E101 so i carry on paying social security in the UK and am excempt from Belgium.

But yes, it is a minefield - best to get a professional to do it !

jdr Jan 23rd 2008 12:03 pm

Re: Non-resident status in Belgium
 

Originally Posted by davesmithsrm (Post 5827823)
Indeed, i moved over with work and a well known worldwide taxation specialist company are involved in sorting my taxation.

I have moved over as an ex-pat and benefit from some special status (i forgot what it is called now) and the company takes care of all tax returns.

I also filled a E101 so i carry on paying social security in the UK and am excempt from Belgium.

But yes, it is a minefield - best to get a professional to do it !

Your E101 cover.... are you self employed status and do not expct to be there for more than 12 months ?


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