Ultramarine

I have a friend who apparently has difficulties registering on this forum so publishing the following on his behalf:

1. As UK is now in a post-brexit transition period, does that mean that UK citizens can still relocate on pre-brexit terms to any EU country?
2. Will those Brits who relocated after Brexit but before the end of transition period be able to keep living and working indefinitely in the same EU state after that transition period is over?
3. If answers to questions 1 and 2 vary from country to country, what countries would be a yes to both questions?

Pulaski

1. Yes
2. Yes - so long as they register locally as a resident in whatever country they relocate to. Just showing up and renting a house is unlikely to be sufficient.
3. N/A

Ultramarine

What is likely to be sufficient then?

Pulaski

That depends on the country - every country is likely different - but is going to include such things as registering for income taxes, social charges, and/or for health care, registering your vehicle, registering your children for school, etc. Some will be local registrations, some regional, some natioanal, bascially everything that would distinuguish as a new resident from someone who is just visiting You, or your friend would need to specify the country(ies) they are thinking of moving to and then ask in that country's forum.

Ultramarine

Thank you.

Also, if he relocates to one of EU counties during the transition period and register for residence there will he be able to move to another EU country on the same pre-prexit conditions after the transition period is over?

Pulaski

That very same question occurred to me when I was typing my previous answer.

Loafing Along

Under current negotiations the answer has to be "No" . As a Brit moving now and registering in an EU country all should be the same as when UK was part of the EU. That effectively expires on the 31st December this year . Thereafter either one remains in the EU country selected and continues to benefit from pre-withdrawal conditions or by moving to another EU country may forfeit some of those benefits.

dmu

Are you suggesting that he plans to move to an EU country before the end of this year and to apply for residency, and then possibly move to another EU country? IMO his residency status in the first country wouldn't count in the second - he would still be a UK citizen, subjected to the post-transition regulations in force in the second country.
But on a practical note, how would your friend find a job and get disability benefits, as per your other thread, if he's moving around?

Cynic

If your friend moved to (for example) Holland (a Schengen country) and gained a resident permit, that permit would, together with a valid national passport, act as a temporary visa to visit (not live in) other Schengen countries.

Pulaski

Which isn't go to be any incremental help as a British passport holder will (after Brexit, as now) be able to visit (not live in) Schengen countries without a visa anyway.

Cynic

I agree, but it's about the only one directly related to the resident permit I can think of.

suiko

As I understand it, it is pretty unlikely that a Brit living in one EU country before 31/12/20 will be able to go live in another one afterwards (unless of course they apply for a special visa as any other third-country national).

Cynic

The only one's I can think of are dual-nationals; for example my children will all be able to what you describe.

Pulaski

Except that after a few (more) years most British citizens living in the European Onion will be able to apply for citizenship of the country where they live, and then be able to avail themselves of the freedom of movement using their new citizenship/ passport.

I have a sneaking suspicion though that there may be a legal challenge at some point by someone (British) who availed themselves of the freedom of movement allowed pre-Brexit, and who is now unable to move to another EU country, so somewhat analogous to a non-EU spouse who is allowed to follow their EU spouse from country to country under the "freedom of movement" provisions even though they don't have a passport from an EU country.