Moving to bulgaria??
Dec 7th 2009, 8:54 pm
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Moving to bulgaria??
Okay guys what are the facts about moving to Bulgaria as there seems to be alot of false information about?
Dec 8th 2009, 2:43 pm
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What no responses??
Dec 8th 2009, 4:10 pm
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I dont really know anything, but ive spoken to someone in the past who retired out there, and he said the place is beautiful and peaceful...
But i guess everyone has their own opinion...
But i guess everyone has their own opinion...
Dec 8th 2009, 6:55 pm
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Dec 9th 2009, 8:43 am
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Dont buy property in corrupt countries!
Dec 13th 2009, 3:07 pm
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SUre I live there , here for 3 years, its hard, but has better opportunities for us than the UK. IE buying a house and land, farming.
BE prepared for looking like a Rich man. I have never been rich I earn at most the average wage here yet because I am english . Their is much expectation to pay for things and expensively.
THe above is miserable,,really robberys and all sorts happening, but apart from that, I find the country and its people better than the uk.
we are alos trying to build green that is another hardship that is against normal currents you can see here
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BE prepared for looking like a Rich man. I have never been rich I earn at most the average wage here yet because I am english . Their is much expectation to pay for things and expensively.
THe above is miserable,,really robberys and all sorts happening, but apart from that, I find the country and its people better than the uk.
we are alos trying to build green that is another hardship that is against normal currents you can see here
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Dec 14th 2009, 3:58 pm
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it is a corrupt country but I think of itlike if the UK can tax you £200 a year for drivig on the road and here you can get a whole year for £25 bear in mind other things like bread and milk are the same price UK i.e about £1 then isnt government tax just as corrupt.
It is known to bung the local police for getting away with it?
Now ive said that then what do you want to know?
Personally I think the UK is terrible, france is quite nice, Spain not bad, Germany was bad for police harrishment, Hngary seemed nice, Romania was like a bad dream so many poor old people walking hitching down the roads, then Bulgaria about the same as Spain but less tourists were we live. There is so much to tell.
It is known to bung the local police for getting away with it?
Now ive said that then what do you want to know?
Personally I think the UK is terrible, france is quite nice, Spain not bad, Germany was bad for police harrishment, Hngary seemed nice, Romania was like a bad dream so many poor old people walking hitching down the roads, then Bulgaria about the same as Spain but less tourists were we live. There is so much to tell.
Dec 14th 2009, 4:57 pm
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it is a corrupt country but I think of itlike if the UK can tax you £200 a year for drivig on the road and here you can get a whole year for £25 bear in mind other things like bread and milk are the same price UK i.e about £1 then isnt government tax just as corrupt.
It is known to bung the local police for getting away with it?
Now ive said that then what do you want to know?
Personally I think the UK is terrible, france is quite nice, Spain not bad, Germany was bad for police harrishment, Hngary seemed nice, Romania was like a bad dream so many poor old people walking hitching down the roads, then Bulgaria about the same as Spain but less tourists were we live. There is so much to tell.
It is known to bung the local police for getting away with it?
Now ive said that then what do you want to know?
Personally I think the UK is terrible, france is quite nice, Spain not bad, Germany was bad for police harrishment, Hngary seemed nice, Romania was like a bad dream so many poor old people walking hitching down the roads, then Bulgaria about the same as Spain but less tourists were we live. There is so much to tell.
I don't mind learning a foreign language if I have to.
Dec 16th 2009, 1:03 pm
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Do you have some sort of regular income or will you be looking for work/start a business in Bulgaria?
If you have a pension or some sort of income than for some it is good but if you have to rely on finding a job or starting a buniess it is an entirely different matter something that personally I would not do.
Where about are you thinking of buying? coast, mountain, south BG or Sofia area?
If you are thinking of buying in the mountain like Veliko area are you prepared for seriously cold winters? We are talking -20 on a regular basis
If you are thinking of buying be careful lots of dodgy agents out there and same having a house built. Also it looks very appealing buying house for peanuts and you get the old chestnut that with £5k you can do a house up from top to bottom. That might just about buy you double glazing and maybe something else but not much more than that
If you are looking at a doing a house up do you know trustworty builders? (lots of cowboys both Brits and Bulgarians).
99% of people will see you as rich, all foreigners are considered rich so costs go up
Your best bet is to buy a rennovated house from expats that way you can see what you are buying
if there is anything else you would like info on re coast area Burgas pm me
If you have a pension or some sort of income than for some it is good but if you have to rely on finding a job or starting a buniess it is an entirely different matter something that personally I would not do.
Where about are you thinking of buying? coast, mountain, south BG or Sofia area?
If you are thinking of buying in the mountain like Veliko area are you prepared for seriously cold winters? We are talking -20 on a regular basis
If you are thinking of buying be careful lots of dodgy agents out there and same having a house built. Also it looks very appealing buying house for peanuts and you get the old chestnut that with £5k you can do a house up from top to bottom. That might just about buy you double glazing and maybe something else but not much more than that
If you are looking at a doing a house up do you know trustworty builders? (lots of cowboys both Brits and Bulgarians).
99% of people will see you as rich, all foreigners are considered rich so costs go up
Your best bet is to buy a rennovated house from expats that way you can see what you are buying
if there is anything else you would like info on re coast area Burgas pm me
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Dec 16th 2009, 2:12 pm
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Re: Moving to bulgaria??
Seems my first message magiclly appeared,
i replied once then It disapeared I checked it then replied again when it was missing, i am really not so interested in this thread .
However I strongly advice anyone that realizes that UK is Caput that you find an alternative country fast. Good question if you have a regular income?
Best do what your good at?
I affirm again yes Bulgaria is corrupt but consider paying 25£ for a years tax on your car. IT goes on and on this argument.... this argument....Is not it obvious the biggest Mafia in the World is the bloody governments and monarchys. Atleast the local mafias are not so power mad and greedy.
Sorry to bring the bad news read the bible if your worried.
Afterall it the time to celebrate the Birth of the Christ.
i replied once then It disapeared I checked it then replied again when it was missing, i am really not so interested in this thread .
However I strongly advice anyone that realizes that UK is Caput that you find an alternative country fast. Good question if you have a regular income?
Best do what your good at?
I affirm again yes Bulgaria is corrupt but consider paying 25£ for a years tax on your car. IT goes on and on this argument.... this argument....Is not it obvious the biggest Mafia in the World is the bloody governments and monarchys. Atleast the local mafias are not so power mad and greedy.
Sorry to bring the bad news read the bible if your worried.
Afterall it the time to celebrate the Birth of the Christ.
Dec 16th 2009, 3:40 pm
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Re: Moving to bulgaria??
Do you have some sort of regular income or will you be looking for work/start a business in Bulgaria?
If you have a pension or some sort of income than for some it is good but if you have to rely on finding a job or starting a buniess it is an entirely different matter something that personally I would not do.
Where about are you thinking of buying? coast, mountain, south BG or Sofia area?
If you are thinking of buying in the mountain like Veliko area are you prepared for seriously cold winters? We are talking -20 on a regular basis
If you are thinking of buying be careful lots of dodgy agents out there and same having a house built. Also it looks very appealing buying house for peanuts and you get the old chestnut that with £5k you can do a house up from top to bottom. That might just about buy you double glazing and maybe something else but not much more than that
If you are looking at a doing a house up do you know trustworty builders? (lots of cowboys both Brits and Bulgarians).
99% of people will see you as rich, all foreigners are considered rich so costs go up
Your best bet is to buy a rennovated house from expats that way you can see what you are buying
if there is anything else you would like info on re coast area Burgas pm me
If you have a pension or some sort of income than for some it is good but if you have to rely on finding a job or starting a buniess it is an entirely different matter something that personally I would not do.
Where about are you thinking of buying? coast, mountain, south BG or Sofia area?
If you are thinking of buying in the mountain like Veliko area are you prepared for seriously cold winters? We are talking -20 on a regular basis
If you are thinking of buying be careful lots of dodgy agents out there and same having a house built. Also it looks very appealing buying house for peanuts and you get the old chestnut that with £5k you can do a house up from top to bottom. That might just about buy you double glazing and maybe something else but not much more than that
If you are looking at a doing a house up do you know trustworty builders? (lots of cowboys both Brits and Bulgarians).
99% of people will see you as rich, all foreigners are considered rich so costs go up
Your best bet is to buy a rennovated house from expats that way you can see what you are buying
if there is anything else you would like info on re coast area Burgas pm me
I would consider starting up a business but it worth about 20,000 pounds at the moment but I would be able to increase this if I didn't have to pay rates and there might be a chance of employing a couple of locals, by the way what's the wage in bulgaria??
What's the postal system like??
Dec 16th 2009, 4:35 pm
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It really depends what sort of business you are thinking of. Most expats have been setting up in the property related market, either property management etc but to be honest there are too many already and with the property market the way it is everywhere there is not that much milage in that.
Wages are very low depend on type or work 600/700lev is a good wage (that works out about £300) a month.
The problem is that I presume you have no knowledge of Bulgarian it is not the easiest language to learn therefore setting up a business even harder. There is an expat community main split between Veliko (mountain) area, coast Varna & Burgas, Yambol area if it is popular with Brits because is a lot cheaper than the coast (it is about about 1 and half hour from Burgas). Roads are not that great and in winter with snow/icy condition a 5 minute journey can take ages. The climate near the coast is milder in winter we only had a couple of weeks each winter of -20
There are a lot of things you need to consider when looking for property setting up a business (the red tape is a nightmare) for instance Varna airport used to be open all year round but it is now closed in winter Burgas was the opposite. If you are looking at buying in villages near a main city you need to look at many things:
1) Make sure it is not a Gipsy village you will never sell that property again
2) Don't assume you get the same facilities as UK, there is no mains gas (usually only in bigger cities) landline it is not available everywhere so it is internet (unless you go for either mobile connection or sat).
3) In most villages you don't get post delivered you will have to go to post office to collect. Postal system is not at all good lots of stuff gets "lost"
Wages are very low depend on type or work 600/700lev is a good wage (that works out about £300) a month.
The problem is that I presume you have no knowledge of Bulgarian it is not the easiest language to learn therefore setting up a business even harder. There is an expat community main split between Veliko (mountain) area, coast Varna & Burgas, Yambol area if it is popular with Brits because is a lot cheaper than the coast (it is about about 1 and half hour from Burgas). Roads are not that great and in winter with snow/icy condition a 5 minute journey can take ages. The climate near the coast is milder in winter we only had a couple of weeks each winter of -20
There are a lot of things you need to consider when looking for property setting up a business (the red tape is a nightmare) for instance Varna airport used to be open all year round but it is now closed in winter Burgas was the opposite. If you are looking at buying in villages near a main city you need to look at many things:
1) Make sure it is not a Gipsy village you will never sell that property again
2) Don't assume you get the same facilities as UK, there is no mains gas (usually only in bigger cities) landline it is not available everywhere so it is internet (unless you go for either mobile connection or sat).
3) In most villages you don't get post delivered you will have to go to post office to collect. Postal system is not at all good lots of stuff gets "lost"
Dec 16th 2009, 8:29 pm
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It really depends what sort of business you are thinking of. Most expats have been setting up in the property related market, either property management etc but to be honest there are too many already and with the property market the way it is everywhere there is not that much milage in that.
Wages are very low depend on type or work 600/700lev is a good wage (that works out about £300) a month.
The problem is that I presume you have no knowledge of Bulgarian it is not the easiest language to learn therefore setting up a business even harder. There is an expat community main split between Veliko (mountain) area, coast Varna & Burgas, Yambol area if it is popular with Brits because is a lot cheaper than the coast (it is about about 1 and half hour from Burgas). Roads are not that great and in winter with snow/icy condition a 5 minute journey can take ages. The climate near the coast is milder in winter we only had a couple of weeks each winter of -20
There are a lot of things you need to consider when looking for property setting up a business (the red tape is a nightmare) for instance Varna airport used to be open all year round but it is now closed in winter Burgas was the opposite. If you are looking at buying in villages near a main city you need to look at many things:
1) Make sure it is not a Gipsy village you will never sell that property again
2) Don't assume you get the same facilities as UK, there is no mains gas (usually only in bigger cities) landline it is not available everywhere so it is internet (unless you go for either mobile connection or sat).
3) In most villages you don't get post delivered you will have to go to post office to collect. Postal system is not at all good lots of stuff gets "lost"
Wages are very low depend on type or work 600/700lev is a good wage (that works out about £300) a month.
The problem is that I presume you have no knowledge of Bulgarian it is not the easiest language to learn therefore setting up a business even harder. There is an expat community main split between Veliko (mountain) area, coast Varna & Burgas, Yambol area if it is popular with Brits because is a lot cheaper than the coast (it is about about 1 and half hour from Burgas). Roads are not that great and in winter with snow/icy condition a 5 minute journey can take ages. The climate near the coast is milder in winter we only had a couple of weeks each winter of -20
There are a lot of things you need to consider when looking for property setting up a business (the red tape is a nightmare) for instance Varna airport used to be open all year round but it is now closed in winter Burgas was the opposite. If you are looking at buying in villages near a main city you need to look at many things:
1) Make sure it is not a Gipsy village you will never sell that property again
2) Don't assume you get the same facilities as UK, there is no mains gas (usually only in bigger cities) landline it is not available everywhere so it is internet (unless you go for either mobile connection or sat).
3) In most villages you don't get post delivered you will have to go to post office to collect. Postal system is not at all good lots of stuff gets "lost"
Dec 17th 2009, 5:51 pm
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M8 if you come to vratsa you ll be alright. People are ok here the country folk are a little slow and set in there ways but friendly and patient with language. The city folk too are mostly friendly always really just some more busy than others.
But they are quite tough in business. They dont back down from price easy!
I dont know you from Adam but if you come to Vratsa I help you find help. I know where you can find a flat for 200 lev a month and buy a house for 10000.
setting up companys is now a con for buying property buying land. but even so we set one up for about 500euros until we discovered it was not needed.
Maybe if you say what you have in mind. But I advocate the Bulg its great where you from?
But they are quite tough in business. They dont back down from price easy!
I dont know you from Adam but if you come to Vratsa I help you find help. I know where you can find a flat for 200 lev a month and buy a house for 10000.
setting up companys is now a con for buying property buying land. but even so we set one up for about 500euros until we discovered it was not needed.
Maybe if you say what you have in mind. But I advocate the Bulg its great where you from?