Leaving the sinking UK..........
#16
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We left UK about 7 years ago for a job in USA. Don't think we would go back permanently, but would never rule it out completely. You just pay far too much in tax in one form or another, ie: income tax, social security/health tax, council tax, road tax, tax on petrol , VAT, more tax if you earn over a certain income, tax on company car if you get one, stamp duty if you buy a house, the list just goes on and on. The government just fritters the money away and does not seem to put the money where it is most needed, ie: health service, teachers and the police force and the public transport system. We do get taxed here in USA but overall I don't think it is quite as much.
#17
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Joined: Nov 2003
Location: UK
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Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally posted by stekas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
Well we are in the same boat as you stekas, we were originally looking at NZ then OZ, but had bad news from some immigration agents today as not enough trade experience. SH*T SH*T SH*T.
but we have one or two options, wait a few more years or do as other work collegues and Agree with what others have said on this thread, Cyprus looks very promising, i have a friend out there and it`s starting to boom. House prices are obviously going up and apparantly the doors open April, then you can walk staright in as european citizen. If i am wrong on anything. others may well point this out, but if we can`t make NZ or OZ we will definatley looking at Cyprus.
Any comments or suggestions would also be gratefull from others, and wish everyone good fortune.
xxx
#18
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Joined: Jan 2004
Location: England
Posts: 56
Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally posted by stekas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
Im also interested in getting away from the UK and feel the simiarily the way about it that you do.
Im mainly interested in Australia and New Zealand as well and want to start up a Plumbing business out there.
Since migrating to Australia and New Zealand is getting more and more difficult, im also thinking about other places as well.
In Europe id be interested in Germany or maybe Austria.
For Austria check this website www.virtualvienna.net
As far as Spain goes I am not so interested anymore. Reason being is because of the recent Election of a Socialist Party into power.
This isnt a good thing and I think if anyone is thinking of moving to Spain a socialist country to raise a family and bring up children should go and read the reports of war crimes of Robert Mugabe, the spanish republic, Stalin, lenin etc...
But anyway good luck whatever you do!
#19
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Location: Kyrenia, Northern Cyprus
Posts: 3
Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally posted by CUEBALL
Well we are in the same boat as you stekas, we were originally looking at NZ then OZ, but had bad news from some immigration agents today as not enough trade experience. SH*T SH*T SH*T.
but we have one or two options, wait a few more years or do as other work collegues and Agree with what others have said on this thread, Cyprus looks very promising, i have a friend out there and it`s starting to boom. House prices are obviously going up and apparantly the doors open April, then you can walk staright in as european citizen. If i am wrong on anything. others may well point this out, but if we can`t make NZ or OZ we will definatley looking at Cyprus.
Any comments or suggestions would also be gratefull from others, and wish everyone good fortune.
xxx
Well we are in the same boat as you stekas, we were originally looking at NZ then OZ, but had bad news from some immigration agents today as not enough trade experience. SH*T SH*T SH*T.
but we have one or two options, wait a few more years or do as other work collegues and Agree with what others have said on this thread, Cyprus looks very promising, i have a friend out there and it`s starting to boom. House prices are obviously going up and apparantly the doors open April, then you can walk staright in as european citizen. If i am wrong on anything. others may well point this out, but if we can`t make NZ or OZ we will definatley looking at Cyprus.
Any comments or suggestions would also be gratefull from others, and wish everyone good fortune.
xxx
http://groups.msn.com/NorthernCyprus...strncinfo.msnw
#20
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Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally posted by veryfunny
It is sad that you feel that way about the UK but have you thought about relocating somwhere else in the UK?
You really did not say what you are looking for in terms of lifestyle, weather type, do you like just open land or city life etc.
It is sad that you feel that way about the UK but have you thought about relocating somwhere else in the UK?
You really did not say what you are looking for in terms of lifestyle, weather type, do you like just open land or city life etc.
I can relate to how this person feels although my personal circumstances are somewhat different. I am a 24-year-old British male, whose parents are relocating to another area and in order to continue employment with my current employer I must find my own accommodation locally.
The problem is that in southeast England house prices are so extortionate that I simply cannot afford my own place - either to rent or buy. I have spoken to the local council about accommodation, but was advised that as a single male my wait for accommodation could be a couple of years!
Now as anyone who knows Britain, and in particularly southeast England will know, we have recently received an influx of asylum seekers whose accommodation is provided by the government.
I'd like to point out that I'm by no means lazy, I work long hours in a local factory, earn over £25,000 per year and take all overtime on offer - but even this isn't enough. I have paid taxes since my first day in employment, and after being told that there is no suitable council accommodation I feel like asking, what is the point?
I despise the British government for how they treat certain people, and have political preferences.
#21
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Joined: Apr 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 12
Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally posted by stekas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
#22
Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Hi there
Hope you've come to some decision on where to live. I can really understand you're sentiment of leaving the sinking uk. I left Bradford 6 years ago and came to spain. the best move i could have made. Since then i have set up a company that helps people relocate. There is a lot of useful information on our website that could be of use to you. Best of luck.
Danny
www.relocatingtoandalucia.com
Hope you've come to some decision on where to live. I can really understand you're sentiment of leaving the sinking uk. I left Bradford 6 years ago and came to spain. the best move i could have made. Since then i have set up a company that helps people relocate. There is a lot of useful information on our website that could be of use to you. Best of luck.
Danny
www.relocatingtoandalucia.com
Originally posted by stekas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
#23
Hi, me and my husband feel exactly the same, we are looking at going to Oz, but recently my mind has turned to look into Spain, my mum has a holiday villa in Northern Spain, which is nice for us to go back to and i do like the mediteranean way of life.
I am weighing up the pros and cons of both, Spain is nearer for family to visit etc, but ive heard there is a better way of life in Oz, so im not sure what to do.
All we know is that we are fed up living in england and struggling constantly, every year we say the same thing, next year will be better, but it never is, i just want to get out of here and try something knew.
I am weighing up the pros and cons of both, Spain is nearer for family to visit etc, but ive heard there is a better way of life in Oz, so im not sure what to do.
All we know is that we are fed up living in england and struggling constantly, every year we say the same thing, next year will be better, but it never is, i just want to get out of here and try something knew.
#24
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Originally posted by Ronnie
Im serious, Me my wife and our 5 year old son are moving over to Northern Cyprus before the end of this year. Although not yet recognised as a country, the north of the island is a beautiful place to live. The people are warm and welcoming the culture is wonderful and the cost of living is extremely cheap. Education is fantastic with a mixed English\Turkish curriculum (Taught by English trained teachers) and the universities are all American. We have been visiting for some time now and have no hesitation in moving. Don't believe any propoganda horror stories about the north, do some research and find the truth......we did and are glad we did.
Im serious, Me my wife and our 5 year old son are moving over to Northern Cyprus before the end of this year. Although not yet recognised as a country, the north of the island is a beautiful place to live. The people are warm and welcoming the culture is wonderful and the cost of living is extremely cheap. Education is fantastic with a mixed English\Turkish curriculum (Taught by English trained teachers) and the universities are all American. We have been visiting for some time now and have no hesitation in moving. Don't believe any propoganda horror stories about the north, do some research and find the truth......we did and are glad we did.
#25
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Joined: Mar 2004
Location: Out west, Ireland
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Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally posted by stekas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
thanks
#26
Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Friends of mine left the UK for Souther Spain a few years ago. Admittedly they have a lot of money as he sold his business but they live in a very Spanish village and have taken time to learn the language and have very many Spanish friends. They are not young but take part in all the village events, have people over for dinner etc. They absolutely love it and I have to admit that it is a wonderful place as I have visited them (and still only 40 minutes from Malaga airport).
I live in the US now, I love it and would never want to return permanently to the UK. I think my husband might like to give it a try at some stage but I know he'd hate it.
I live in the US now, I love it and would never want to return permanently to the UK. I think my husband might like to give it a try at some stage but I know he'd hate it.
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Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
hi BOTH
sAW YOUR QUESTION AND WONDERED IF YOU HAD ANY GOOD AVISE FROM THE QUESTION.
WE ARE SERIOUSLEY CONSIDERING THE SAME MOVE TO FRANCE.MY HUSBAND WORKS FROM HOME AND WE ARE HOPING THIS CAN BE DONE FROM FRANCE.WE ALSO NEED INFO ON CHILDRENS SCHOOLING IN FRANCE.. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGESTIONS FOR US OR INFO WOULD BE GREATLEY APPRECIATED.
BEST WISHES FOR YOU FUTURE
SIAN
sAW YOUR QUESTION AND WONDERED IF YOU HAD ANY GOOD AVISE FROM THE QUESTION.
WE ARE SERIOUSLEY CONSIDERING THE SAME MOVE TO FRANCE.MY HUSBAND WORKS FROM HOME AND WE ARE HOPING THIS CAN BE DONE FROM FRANCE.WE ALSO NEED INFO ON CHILDRENS SCHOOLING IN FRANCE.. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGESTIONS FOR US OR INFO WOULD BE GREATLEY APPRECIATED.
BEST WISHES FOR YOU FUTURE
SIAN
Originally Posted by stekas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
#28
mr cid
Joined: Aug 2004
Location: Almeria
Posts: 49
Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
I totally agree with the remarks you made, this once "great contry" of ours is sinking, and sinking fast, the goverment are more concerned with a softly softly approach to illegal imigrants, crime, etc along with many other things, than looking after their own people. I could list forever the reasons i want to move to spain.
here we come, glorious weather and a better way of life.
Sarah
here we come, glorious weather and a better way of life.
Sarah
#29
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Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally Posted by cidshock
I totally agree with the remarks you made, this once "great contry" of ours is sinking, and sinking fast, the goverment are more concerned with a softly softly approach to illegal imigrants, crime, etc along with many other things, than looking after their own people. I could list forever the reasons i want to move to spain.
here we come, glorious weather and a better way of life.
Sarah
here we come, glorious weather and a better way of life.
Sarah
The UK is now a long distant memory.
#30
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Re: Leaving the sinking UK..........
Originally Posted by stekas
Hi, we are a couple M47, F42. We are seriously looking to get out of the UK before it sinks completely under a sea of scroungers and layabouts. We really wanted to go to Australia, New Zealand or the States but these destinations seem almost impossible unless you are a millionare or brain surgeon or ideally both.
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas
We are now looking to relocate probably to Spain or possibly France.
Anybody got any good tips, ideas on Employment Searches, Property Purchasing...etc etc.
Anybody got any stories about Migration Agencies?? good or bad.
Any help appreciated....
Thanks
Steve & Kas