Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by okonumiyaki
(Post 12995973)
Marry an EU citizen!
One minor issue - how do I explain it to my spouse? |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by not2old
(Post 12995877)
OP from your posts in 2016 that you were considering moving to NZ?
what happened & why (if living in the UK) do you want an EU passport....reasons/considerations? They were going to open up again, and with our EOI being in the queue since 2016 we should have been fairly near the front. However, Covid! So we have no idea when (or even if) NZ are going to restart issuing Parental Visas and if so, what the new rules will be. We are not happy in the UK with the restrictions on European movement and the increasingly corrupt and authoritarian Government. This may, of course, change with the next GE but this is not looking likely. So we are looking at a backup option for if we can't get to NZ. There is no guarantee that anywhere else is going to be better but an ability to tour Europe whilst we are still reasonably fit and mobile would be very attractive compared to major travel restrictions (90 days in 180). The UK is fine as a group of countries, with many lovely places and very friendly people. We also speak the language! Just not happy at the prospect of spending the next 8-10 years here, if we take a pessimistic view of how the country will be governed. If you consider that Ireland might unify and Scotland become independent over the next 5 years then the horizons will be shrinking every year and I doubt that England will be a comfortable place to live. I grew up travelling to Ireland, Wales, Scotland and if they are suddenly foreign countries with visa requirements then I would find this very hard. Could all turn out fine, of course, but it is always nice to have an alternative plan scoped out if things go to Hades in a hand cart. |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat
(Post 12996359)
Sound plan.
One minor issue - how do I explain it to my spouse? |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Someone mentioned Portugal above, so I'll expand a little on the requirements here.
Assuming you weren't looking to find work (which would be a tall order), then passive income amounting to the minimum wage for a single person, plus 50% for a couple satisfies the means requirement. Currently the minimum wage stands at 665€ so call it 1k per month for a couple. You could live OK on that provided you didn't have to fork out for rent. 5 years' residence gives the right to apply for citizenship, for which you'd need to pass a language proficiency test. Nothing too daunting and perfectly doable. Citizenship applications are currently taking well in excess of a year to process. I can thoroughly recommend it should you be in such a position. Bags of choice location wise, public health service available to all residents, sensible government, good climate, reasonable property prices (provided you're not looking at Algarve seafront or central Lisbon / Porto), great food, plenty of culture, country making great progress after a troubled past. Added bonus for new arrivals of a favourable tax regime for a period of 10 years. What more can I say? |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
In many ways Ireland can be a great alternative to NZ and especially for those who might know Dunedin and parts of Otago. Away from Dublin there are some nice places that offer that kind of life and one benefit is that you can live remote but without really being that remote. Rental market is tough but those who can afford to buy and want a bit of land still have options. Biggest benefit is that you can continue to live in an English speaking country with decent job opportunities and can explore Europe. We have a place in Spain and usually drive down via Cherbourg/Roscoff and while I love Spain, I don't even know if I'd want to live there permanently (once retired). It's great to have more winter sun but then again we love spring and summer here and can avoid the crowds. Probably just trying to get the best of both worlds.
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Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat
(Post 12992841)
It seems a bit quiet on here. ;)
One option to get over the end of free movement now the UK is out of the EU would be to move to an EU (or Schengen?) country and then satisfy residence requirements and become a citizen. Does anyone know which EU country offers the fastest (affordable) way to migrate. https://www.immigration-residency.co...50%20000%20EUR. https://www.second-citizenship.org/p...dency-program/ other info https://www.immigration-residency.com/ |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat
(Post 12996364)
We are not happy in the UK with the restrictions on European movement and the increasingly corrupt and authoritarian Government. There is no guarantee that anywhere else is going to be better but an ability to tour Europe whilst we are still reasonably fit and mobile would be very attractive compared to major travel restrictions (90 days in 180). Just not happy at the prospect of spending the next 8-10 years here, if we take a pessimistic view of how the country will be governed. where would you live annually, how would you split spend your time living globally? would you stay in one EU country as a base? would you maintain 2 residence, say UK & a European country? have you factored in the accommodation expenses, healthcare, travel costs? if you are in limbo as far as the NZ family Visa (lets say you parked it) would you travel to NZ every other year with the NZ family traveling to you in the in between years. as time marches on the factors/considerations are - its either Health or finances or both |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
If we chose to seek EU residency then we would move to and live in the country, and almost certainly sell up in the UK to fund a purchase in our new home.
Then we would carry on as we did before the end of free movement, sometimes going to NZ and Australia over the UK winter and coming back for the UK summer. Touring Europe part of the time. Living at home part of the time. There are so many places in continental Europe that we have yet to see. So many places, so little time. |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by Moses2013
(Post 12993052)
Then again most people are born in a place and nobody asked them if they want to spend 18 years of their life there:sarcasm: The thing is that many don't meet the requirements (see Spain), so unfortunately Ireland is becoming a gateway. The worst would be if people come here and are not one bit interested in the country and want to make it another England, or just walk around miserable. If people integrate and accept that Barry's is not Tetley (can be bought) and do something for the community then fine.
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Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by BritInParis
(Post 12998964)
Spain’s Golden Visa requires a €500,000 investment in property. Given the relatively high cost of living in Ireland moving there for five to six years because you can’t ‘afford’ to move to Spain seems to be a false economy.
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Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Noting that we are retired.
Also noting that we don'y have £500k tucked down the back of a mattress. Nor a house with that much equity. |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat
(Post 12999376)
Noting that we are retired.
Also noting that we don't have £500k tucked down the back of a mattress. Nor a house with that much equity. For those retired with a lower income Portugal remains attractive with a D7 visa. |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
If you have sufficient income, the Portugal D7 visa as mentioned by a couple of posters is a good option. Red Eric outlined the income requirements.
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Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Portugal and Ireland leading at the moment.
Ireland because of language and free travel. Portugal because of nice weather and relative affordability. |
Re: Easiest (cheap/fastest) way to get an EU passport
Originally Posted by LittleGreyCat
(Post 13000275)
Portugal and Ireland leading at the moment.
Ireland because of language and free travel. Portugal because of nice weather and relative affordability. |
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