scimdarren

Hi Do you have PLC and drives experience in a maintenance environment, would you consider Winnipeg?

D

jugapper

Hi D

Only had very limited experience of both of these unfortunately. But would consider Winnipeg.

Paul

smelly and stinky

hi
im jason count me in , have a job in calgary and waiting ,waiting ,waiting i will go for a cup of tea oh still waiting for a reply for the lmo , have found the exam is muti stab and there a things in the exam that do not relate,try HERB PUTZ ,also i do have a course out line, for ALBERTA ,i will send via post if required..AND DO HAVE COPYS IN PAPER OF THERE ELECTRICAL CODE PART 1,2006 AND HANDBOOK 2006 , (EXPLANATION OF THE RULE BOOK PART 1)
WILL BE HAPPY TO COPY AND SEND OUT FOR A SMALL FEE BEER TOKENS AND POSTAGE ,THIS WILL SAVE YOU 200+ POUNDS ....
on my first take on the exam i scored 56 but was given the wrong book and so went in blind and shitting my pants..... hate exams.
please feel free to pm me
jason

scimdarren

I think you might have confused the trade definitions in Canada.

An Industrial Electrician is recognised as a Maintenance Electrician in a factory, doing some construction projects within the plant but primarily you are there to fault find industrial process equipment when it breaks down.

A Construction Electrician installs everything, his qualification is good for both industrial and domestic installation.

The reason why I say this, is that if you haven't done much with PLC's or Drives then you are probably not an Industrial Electrician 'as defined' in Canada.

Darren

jugapper

Ok - thanks for that advice.

Only thing is, in my current employment I do all the duties covered on the NOC list for Industrial Electrician, 7242. Have worked all my career in a manufacturing industry but have limited exp of PLC and drives as we class this as a specialist area so would call someone in from a specialist firm if required. Are there 2 seperate trade exams, one for construction and one for industrial then - or are they both incorporated in the same exam?

Paul

scimdarren

Yes, there are two separate trades recognised. Although once in possession of either, you can cross over dependant on experience.
I understand what you mean about PLC's etc. sometimes not being within the remit of an Electrician, but that is becoming quite rare now as all new equipment will use PLC's, drives and data collection.

An example of this being a necessary part of our trade is that my company, can find lots of interested Electrician applicants for the two vacant positions we have but hardly any with a willingness to work shifts and/or lack of knowledge in PLC's. That is why they are considering hiring from abroad.

We arent expected to program and design, but we are expected to go online on a machine with a laptop and read the ladder logic in order to troubleshoot.

Do you work in maintenance and troubleshoot equipment with PLC's? and understand the basics principals of Inputs, Outputs, analogue control etc?

Darren

jugapper

Appreciate the reply....

Yes, I do work in maintenance and troubleshoot and fault find conventional plant , eg compressors, boilers etc, but only know the basics of PLC's and only used about twice in the last 10 years or so - but I have got access to info on PLC's which I can read up on at work as a refresher if you think it would stand me in a better position to get a job !?

I do understand the basic principals that you mentioned as well by the way!

Any other advice - please keep it coming!!

Cheers - P

scimdarren

Another thing to consider in most plants here, they employ what is known as Power Engineers, these people maintain the facilities services, like the boilers, compressors, cooling towers etc. Mainly mechanical bias with limited electrical licensing too.
Whereas the Electricians concentrate on process machines.

Journeyman Electrician

Its not uncommon for UK sparks to fail first attempt at the IP, in the absence of first hand canadian experience it pays to buy the exam assessment CD concentrating on troubleshooting and maintenance topics.

I too studied using the old code book and my first sight of the 2006 edition was when it was placed on my table at the start of my exam (what a shock). Anyway I managed to get 75% which is a pass.

I sat the exam in December 2006 and have to wait three years from this date until I can take my masters. Needed if you wish to pull permits.

Thomas

Journeyman Electrician

From what I have seen posted here a Canadian Industrial Electrician is more automation and controls than a service electrician. With regards to the red seal program, In Alberta there is no distinction between an electrician and industrial electrician whereas in ontario there is. That being the case technically as a construction electrician (in Alberta) I could take an industrial position in Ontario.

Thomas

Journeyman Electrician

From what I have seen posted here a Canadian Industrial Electrician is more automation and controls than a service electrician. With regards to the red seal program, In Alberta there is no distinction between an electrician and industrial electrician whereas in ontario there is. That being the case technically as a construction electrician (in Alberta) I could take an industrial position in Ontario.

Thomas

Journeyman Electrician

From what I have seen posted here a Canadian Industrial Electrician is more automation and controls than a service electrician. With regards to the red seal program, In Alberta there is no distinction between an electrician and industrial electrician whereas in ontario there is. That being the case technically as a construction electrician (in Alberta) I could take an industrial position in Ontario.

Thomas

Mick Thompson

Hi Darren,

Is your company looking to employ industrial (maintenance) electricians? I have 20 years experience in industry (paper, pulp, steel, eurotunnel and pharmaceutical) and have worked with PLCs, VFDs and various automation. Challenged and passed red seal last year (although it was the construction and maintenance version as that was all they could offer in BC) We have been looking at Ontario but it may be time to widen the job search. Looks like we will be out again in April / May for further recce.

scimdarren

Yes they are still trying to fill 2 positions.

They must have 5 years Maintenance experience and they do except the Construction ticket.

Contact HR in Winnipeg, the fact that you have your ticket makes it a hundred times easier.

Darren

Mick Thompson

Thanks I will,

Do you think the industrial side is as different to the UK as the construction side looks to be?

Mick