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john_w Aug 6th 2007 11:33 pm

Re applying for ARTC
 
Has anyone else ever re-applied for their ARTC after being refused first time?
Thinking of re-applying ( yes I know $300!) and this time missing out the mechanical side of my trade and just putting in the sparky stuff plus some sparky work that Ive done for the past few years with references and electrical qualifications.
I still dont understand how my trade can need an electrical license but cannot be assessed as an electrical trade, but just got to get on with it and the ARTC is the only way I can see of getting things started.
Anyone else done this, am I waisting my time?

steve`o Aug 7th 2007 9:35 am

Re: Re applying for ARTC
 
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Originally Posted by john_w (Post 5158466)
Has anyone else ever re-applied for their ARTC after being refused first time?
Thinking of re-applying ( yes I know $300!) and this time missing out the mechanical side of my trade and just putting in the sparky stuff plus some sparky work that Ive done for the past few years with references and electrical qualifications.
I still dont understand how my trade can need an electrical license but cannot be assessed as an electrical trade, but just got to get on with it and the ARTC is the only way I can see of getting things started.
Anyone else done this, am I waisting my time?

hi john

you need to show that your the equivalent of an aussie spark / tradesperson

so i would write your own references and get them to put in on their headed paper
get as much info in there as possible covering the basics of "a tradesperson"

this is the ability to

read drawings and specifications
accuratley measure and order the gear
the work its self ( explain as you would to a first year apprentice )
and testing and certification thats required


see enclosed copies of two of my own ;)

Wendy Aug 7th 2007 2:46 pm

Re: Re applying for ARTC
 

Originally Posted by steve`o (Post 5161136)
hi john

you need to show that your the equivalent of an aussie spark / tradesperson

so i would write your own references and get them to put in on their headed paper
get as much info in there as possible covering the basics of "a tradesperson"

this is the ability to

read drawings and specifications
accuratley measure and order the gear
the work its self ( explain as you would to a first year apprentice )
and testing and certification thats required


see enclosed copies of two of my own ;)

Steve John isn't an electrician, he's a lift engineer (or whatever they are called). The TRA have failed him on his original application for an ARTC certificate, because he's not a sparky. However they are supposed to assess his skills for an ARTC certificate because over here a lift engineer needs an electrical licence and they are supposed to issue on on this basis.

This is where the problem lies. I'm at a loss on how to help :confused:

steve`o Aug 7th 2007 8:08 pm

Re: Re applying for ARTC
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 5161935)
Steve John isn't an electrician, he's a lift engineer (or whatever they are called). The TRA have failed him on his original application for an ARTC certificate, because he's not a sparky. However they are supposed to assess his skills for an ARTC certificate because over here a lift engineer needs an electrical licence and they are supposed to issue on on this basis.

This is where the problem lies. I'm at a loss on how to help :confused:

he`s got the following qualifications

ONC in electrical & electronic eng. & 16th ed. regs,

i would say providing he has the 7 years experiance he should re-aplpy as an electrician siting all the electrical work he undertakes in the fitting and commisioning of the lifts as proof of experiance i would hope that taking this route wold leave to an artc cert as an electrical fitter which would suffice for his work in lifts ( i assume that the site electrican always wires up to an isolator when lifts sre fitted )


regards steve

Brigall Aug 7th 2007 11:03 pm

Re: Re applying for ARTC
 
Why don't you apply for a restricted licence, similar to a refrigeration or air conditioning engineer. This would allow you to carry out fault finding and maintenance. Sparkys would carry out all work up to the main isolator.


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