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Old Nov 11th 2013, 8:50 pm
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hi all,

from the drawing that dune put up where would you wire the emergency stop and are them 2 drawings all they are after or is more needed, any help appreciated thanks
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Old Nov 11th 2013, 9:24 pm
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its at willesden centre, college of north west london 23rd of november just tryin to revise the dol stuff not really experienced in all that, u done ur exam already mate?
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Ye mine all done . Exam not to bad . Learn your power formulas and ohms law v= I x r etc. they ask health and safety and basic scenarios that any sparky should know. I had a question to work out current carrying capacity and voltdrop. Resistors in parallel and series. The dol starter they ask you to draw a diagram for the control and power circuit . Then u have wire it up. The one we had was like the ones you buy in the wholesaler with the start and stop button one it . It's basically mounted on the wall and u have to wire it and add a emergancy stop to it. The em stop button is mounted on the wall next to the dol . Just make sure once it all wired that hold on contact (13+14) is wired in parallel to the start button or else the motor won't start and run. Everyone got stuck on that . But the guy lets u try till u get it right in ur time frame obviously . They very helpful. If u follow ur diagram u will be fine. I had a 3 phase contactor with a 3 phase coil. R u doing urs with future skills? Mine was in Tottenham London .
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Old Nov 11th 2013, 9:37 pm
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Ye mine all done . Exam not to bad . Learn your power formulas and ohms law v= I x r etc. they ask health and safety and basic scenarios that any sparky should know. I had a question to work out current carrying capacity and voltdrop. Resistors in parallel and series. The dol starter they ask you to draw a diagram for the control and power circuit . Then u have wire it up. The one we had was like the ones you buy in the wholesaler with the start and stop button one it . It's basically mounted on the wall and u have to wire it and add a emergancy stop to it. The em stop button is mounted on the wall next to the dol . Just make sure once it all wired that hold on contact (13+14) is wired in parallel to the start button or else the motor won't start and run. Everyone got stuck on that . But the guy lets u try till u get it right in ur time frame obviously . They very helpful. If u follow ur diagram u will be fine. I had a 3 phase contactor with a 3 phase coil. R u doing urs with future skills? Mine was in Tottenham London .
U wire it anywhere in the control circuit in series. For example for 3 phase contactor and 3 phase coil. Take wire from. Any phase to ur start button. A wire from other side of ur start button to one side of ur em stop . A wire from other side of em stop to 95 of ur thermal overload. A wire from 96 of thermal overload to A2. Then wire ur hold on or aux contact in parallel to ur start button. So a wire from one side of ur start button to 13 and another from the other side of ur start button to. 14 . Then u take a wire from a different phase to A1 .
This applys to a bog standard dol starter that u buy from the wholesaler. The only thing with those is that the 96 terminal in already internal linked to A2. Try get ur hands on one of them and a em stop button, wire it up and see if works . Then u should be fine.
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Old Nov 11th 2013, 9:45 pm
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That's the one I had
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Those 2 drawings r fine
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Old Nov 12th 2013, 6:08 pm
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hi,

well done for passing exam, cheers for that info earlier but to be honest im still struggling with it all, do u have or know where i can get any drawings for the power and control circuits with an em stop so i can get my head round it.

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Old Nov 12th 2013, 8:59 pm
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Hi mate. If go to page 15 of this thread there some links to loads of usefull info on dol starters some one put up. Explains exactly how it works and drawings.
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Drawings I used. Just remember if there's no neutral for the power circuit use a another phase for A1 providing its a 3 phase coil.
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Old Nov 12th 2013, 9:22 pm
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U can also buy a book on e bay called electrical calculations by aj Watkins for bout £12 . Really helpful for the theory. .
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hi,

ye thanks for that helped a great deal things are starting to click now cheers, any other tips for the theory or other parts of exam cheers mate
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Sorry Crg, only just looked at this. Do you want to check the latch for the start signal. Contact should be n/o on 13/14.
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Sorry Crg, only just looked at this. Do you want to check the latch for the start signal. Contact should be n/o on 13/14.
Oh ye sorry mate . Drew it up I a rush to help another guy. Cheers for spotting that .
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Oh ye sorry mate . Drew it up I a rush to help another guy. Cheers for spotting that .
Thought so, cos you have it right in the overall pic

Have you had your results yet?
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