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Feb 21st 2007, 12:59 pm
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Hi thought this might help somebody who is going for their WA electricial fitters licence.Just some things off another site and from my exam.Remember that there is more than one version of this exam,its just to give you an idea on what sort of format it is.
I never used the cable selection book at all,could have saved money not buying it.The prac,well do the things you know how to do first,then move on to the next harder thing.You have a limited time to do them all so don't mess about with the hardest first.
For those who think a growler is a pork pie read this bit.
I used to use a growler years ago on automotive
generators
and starters. It is pretty basic to use. There are three tests that I
remember making on it. For all tests you put the center part of the
armature
in the "V" of the growler. For the first test turn the growler on. Hold
the
little steel blade (looks like a large feeler blade) on the top of the
armature parallel to the armature shaft. Rotate the armature slowly in the
"V" and if the steel blade vibrates on the armature at any point then the
armature is shorted and needs to be replaced.
The second test tests for differences of resistance in the various
windings,
if I remember correctly. The armature is set in the growler the same as
above. There is two pronged handle (red on the ones I've used) that sets
in a
cradle. You adjust the cradle so that the two prongs touch two copper
segments on the comutator. The contact points for the two pronged handle
are
to be with the comutator segments at the 3:00 position (side). With the
growler turned on and the two pronged handle contacting two segments on
the
comutator you can take a reading on the meter (it seems to me that there
was
an adjustment knob for adjusting the reading on the meter). The initial
reading is not what is critical. What you are looking for is if each pair
of
comutator segments reads the same as each other. Otherwise the armature
needs
to be replaced.
The last test uses two single probes (one red & one black). They are
connected to continuity meter. You use them to see if the armature
windings
are shorted to ground. You use the two probes by touching one to any
copper
commutator bar. The other probe is touched to the armature shaft. If the
meter reads continuity then the armature is shorted to ground and needs to
be
replaced. Hope this helps.
The Electricial Fitter Licence West Australia
There might be one than one type of test but this is what I did in mine.
There were 6 jobs,you could choose the order,
1.Direct online motor first with 2 stop start stations with the motor connected in delta,no drawings,so you have to be capable of doing drawings,
then you have to reverse the direction.
2. Then test 2 appliances- might be 2 irons, writing down all the testing you do,and any faults.
They could be ok or not,check the plugs for polarity.
3. Wire up a capacitor start single phase motor with centrifugal switch, before you start,
test all components as nothing is marked,such as centrifugal switch which will give you a zero reading on ohm's scale.
The capacitor will give you an infinite reading on ohm's scale.
Your starting winding will have a higher resistance than your running winding.
When finished, reverse direction of motor.
4. Next,identify and label the primary and secondary windings of a 3 phase transformer,then connect in star delta,
then take voltage readings of primary side and secondary side.
5. Test 3 armatures for short circuit, open circuit and earth fault with a growler,
and write a report as to whether each is acceptable to use.
6. Connect up a fluorescent fitting with two 18 watt fluorescent tubes and one 36 watt choke,connect them up in series
and you MUST do an electrical schematic drawing of the circuit.
The examiner does not assess you, he writes the results then sends them to DOCEP,
who then will notify you of your result.
Don't forget to put danger tags on all the leads and call the assessor after finishing the job,
but before testing as he will switch on the power,
if he tells you to switch on and something blows it's his fault,
if you do it before you call him and something blows you will fail.
Four of the 6 jobs are mandatory i.e. you must pass them.
Theory Exam
There are different theory papers so you might get other questions so the content can be different,so good luck with the exam.
The theory has questions on safety, transformers, fuses,regulation questions,
.
The theory was a mixture of wiring rules and electricial theory,such as what light not to use in a hazardous area.
Line and phase current.
How much does conduit shrink at 10 degrees.
Undergroung trunking.
What size earth bonding.
Size of MEM link.
What colour wire don't you use as active.
I never used the cable selection book at all,could have saved money not buying it.The prac,well do the things you know how to do first,then move on to the next harder thing.You have a limited time to do them all so don't mess about with the hardest first.
For those who think a growler is a pork pie read this bit.
I used to use a growler years ago on automotive
generators
and starters. It is pretty basic to use. There are three tests that I
remember making on it. For all tests you put the center part of the
armature
in the "V" of the growler. For the first test turn the growler on. Hold
the
little steel blade (looks like a large feeler blade) on the top of the
armature parallel to the armature shaft. Rotate the armature slowly in the
"V" and if the steel blade vibrates on the armature at any point then the
armature is shorted and needs to be replaced.
The second test tests for differences of resistance in the various
windings,
if I remember correctly. The armature is set in the growler the same as
above. There is two pronged handle (red on the ones I've used) that sets
in a
cradle. You adjust the cradle so that the two prongs touch two copper
segments on the comutator. The contact points for the two pronged handle
are
to be with the comutator segments at the 3:00 position (side). With the
growler turned on and the two pronged handle contacting two segments on
the
comutator you can take a reading on the meter (it seems to me that there
was
an adjustment knob for adjusting the reading on the meter). The initial
reading is not what is critical. What you are looking for is if each pair
of
comutator segments reads the same as each other. Otherwise the armature
needs
to be replaced.
The last test uses two single probes (one red & one black). They are
connected to continuity meter. You use them to see if the armature
windings
are shorted to ground. You use the two probes by touching one to any
copper
commutator bar. The other probe is touched to the armature shaft. If the
meter reads continuity then the armature is shorted to ground and needs to
be
replaced. Hope this helps.
The Electricial Fitter Licence West Australia
There might be one than one type of test but this is what I did in mine.
There were 6 jobs,you could choose the order,
1.Direct online motor first with 2 stop start stations with the motor connected in delta,no drawings,so you have to be capable of doing drawings,
then you have to reverse the direction.
2. Then test 2 appliances- might be 2 irons, writing down all the testing you do,and any faults.
They could be ok or not,check the plugs for polarity.
3. Wire up a capacitor start single phase motor with centrifugal switch, before you start,
test all components as nothing is marked,such as centrifugal switch which will give you a zero reading on ohm's scale.
The capacitor will give you an infinite reading on ohm's scale.
Your starting winding will have a higher resistance than your running winding.
When finished, reverse direction of motor.
4. Next,identify and label the primary and secondary windings of a 3 phase transformer,then connect in star delta,
then take voltage readings of primary side and secondary side.
5. Test 3 armatures for short circuit, open circuit and earth fault with a growler,
and write a report as to whether each is acceptable to use.
6. Connect up a fluorescent fitting with two 18 watt fluorescent tubes and one 36 watt choke,connect them up in series
and you MUST do an electrical schematic drawing of the circuit.
The examiner does not assess you, he writes the results then sends them to DOCEP,
who then will notify you of your result.
Don't forget to put danger tags on all the leads and call the assessor after finishing the job,
but before testing as he will switch on the power,
if he tells you to switch on and something blows it's his fault,
if you do it before you call him and something blows you will fail.
Four of the 6 jobs are mandatory i.e. you must pass them.
Theory Exam
There are different theory papers so you might get other questions so the content can be different,so good luck with the exam.
The theory has questions on safety, transformers, fuses,regulation questions,
.
The theory was a mixture of wiring rules and electricial theory,such as what light not to use in a hazardous area.
Line and phase current.
How much does conduit shrink at 10 degrees.
Undergroung trunking.
What size earth bonding.
Size of MEM link.
What colour wire don't you use as active.
Feb 21st 2007, 4:23 pm
#2
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Joined: Apr 2005
Location: port kennedy, WA
Posts: 248
Re: exams
Hi thought this might help somebody who is going for their WA electricial fitters licence.Just some things off another site and from my exam.Remember that there is more than one version of this exam,its just to give you an idea on what sort of format it is.
I never used the cable selection book at all,could have saved money not buying it.The prac,well do the things you know how to do first,then move on to the next harder thing.You have a limited time to do them all so don't mess about with the hardest first.
For those who think a growler is a pork pie read this bit.
I used to use a growler years ago on automotive
generators
and starters. It is pretty basic to use. There are three tests that I
remember making on it. For all tests you put the center part of the
armature
in the "V" of the growler. For the first test turn the growler on. Hold
the
little steel blade (looks like a large feeler blade) on the top of the
armature parallel to the armature shaft. Rotate the armature slowly in the
"V" and if the steel blade vibrates on the armature at any point then the
armature is shorted and needs to be replaced.
The second test tests for differences of resistance in the various
windings,
if I remember correctly. The armature is set in the growler the same as
above. There is two pronged handle (red on the ones I've used) that sets
in a
cradle. You adjust the cradle so that the two prongs touch two copper
segments on the comutator. The contact points for the two pronged handle
are
to be with the comutator segments at the 3:00 position (side). With the
growler turned on and the two pronged handle contacting two segments on
the
comutator you can take a reading on the meter (it seems to me that there
was
an adjustment knob for adjusting the reading on the meter). The initial
reading is not what is critical. What you are looking for is if each pair
of
comutator segments reads the same as each other. Otherwise the armature
needs
to be replaced.
The last test uses two single probes (one red & one black). They are
connected to continuity meter. You use them to see if the armature
windings
are shorted to ground. You use the two probes by touching one to any
copper
commutator bar. The other probe is touched to the armature shaft. If the
meter reads continuity then the armature is shorted to ground and needs to
be
replaced. Hope this helps.
The Electricial Fitter Licence West Australia
There might be one than one type of test but this is what I did in mine.
There were 6 jobs,you could choose the order,
1.Direct online motor first with 2 stop start stations with the motor connected in delta,no drawings,so you have to be capable of doing drawings,
then you have to reverse the direction.
2. Then test 2 appliances- might be 2 irons, writing down all the testing you do,and any faults.
They could be ok or not,check the plugs for polarity.
3. Wire up a capacitor start single phase motor with centrifugal switch, before you start,
test all components as nothing is marked,such as centrifugal switch which will give you a zero reading on ohm's scale.
The capacitor will give you an infinite reading on ohm's scale.
Your starting winding will have a higher resistance than your running winding.
When finished, reverse direction of motor.
4. Next,identify and label the primary and secondary windings of a 3 phase transformer,then connect in star delta,
then take voltage readings of primary side and secondary side.
5. Test 3 armatures for short circuit, open circuit and earth fault with a growler,
and write a report as to whether each is acceptable to use.
6. Connect up a fluorescent fitting with two 18 watt fluorescent tubes and one 36 watt choke,connect them up in series
and you MUST do an electrical schematic drawing of the circuit.
The examiner does not assess you, he writes the results then sends them to DOCEP,
who then will notify you of your result.
Don't forget to put danger tags on all the leads and call the assessor after finishing the job,
but before testing as he will switch on the power,
if he tells you to switch on and something blows it's his fault,
if you do it before you call him and something blows you will fail.
Four of the 6 jobs are mandatory i.e. you must pass them.
Theory Exam
There are different theory papers so you might get other questions so the content can be different,so good luck with the exam.
The theory has questions on safety, transformers, fuses,regulation questions,
.
The theory was a mixture of wiring rules and electricial theory,such as what light not to use in a hazardous area.
Line and phase current.
How much does conduit shrink at 10 degrees.
Undergroung trunking.
What size earth bonding.
Size of MEM link.
What colour wire don't you use as active.
I never used the cable selection book at all,could have saved money not buying it.The prac,well do the things you know how to do first,then move on to the next harder thing.You have a limited time to do them all so don't mess about with the hardest first.
For those who think a growler is a pork pie read this bit.
I used to use a growler years ago on automotive
generators
and starters. It is pretty basic to use. There are three tests that I
remember making on it. For all tests you put the center part of the
armature
in the "V" of the growler. For the first test turn the growler on. Hold
the
little steel blade (looks like a large feeler blade) on the top of the
armature parallel to the armature shaft. Rotate the armature slowly in the
"V" and if the steel blade vibrates on the armature at any point then the
armature is shorted and needs to be replaced.
The second test tests for differences of resistance in the various
windings,
if I remember correctly. The armature is set in the growler the same as
above. There is two pronged handle (red on the ones I've used) that sets
in a
cradle. You adjust the cradle so that the two prongs touch two copper
segments on the comutator. The contact points for the two pronged handle
are
to be with the comutator segments at the 3:00 position (side). With the
growler turned on and the two pronged handle contacting two segments on
the
comutator you can take a reading on the meter (it seems to me that there
was
an adjustment knob for adjusting the reading on the meter). The initial
reading is not what is critical. What you are looking for is if each pair
of
comutator segments reads the same as each other. Otherwise the armature
needs
to be replaced.
The last test uses two single probes (one red & one black). They are
connected to continuity meter. You use them to see if the armature
windings
are shorted to ground. You use the two probes by touching one to any
copper
commutator bar. The other probe is touched to the armature shaft. If the
meter reads continuity then the armature is shorted to ground and needs to
be
replaced. Hope this helps.
The Electricial Fitter Licence West Australia
There might be one than one type of test but this is what I did in mine.
There were 6 jobs,you could choose the order,
1.Direct online motor first with 2 stop start stations with the motor connected in delta,no drawings,so you have to be capable of doing drawings,
then you have to reverse the direction.
2. Then test 2 appliances- might be 2 irons, writing down all the testing you do,and any faults.
They could be ok or not,check the plugs for polarity.
3. Wire up a capacitor start single phase motor with centrifugal switch, before you start,
test all components as nothing is marked,such as centrifugal switch which will give you a zero reading on ohm's scale.
The capacitor will give you an infinite reading on ohm's scale.
Your starting winding will have a higher resistance than your running winding.
When finished, reverse direction of motor.
4. Next,identify and label the primary and secondary windings of a 3 phase transformer,then connect in star delta,
then take voltage readings of primary side and secondary side.
5. Test 3 armatures for short circuit, open circuit and earth fault with a growler,
and write a report as to whether each is acceptable to use.
6. Connect up a fluorescent fitting with two 18 watt fluorescent tubes and one 36 watt choke,connect them up in series
and you MUST do an electrical schematic drawing of the circuit.
The examiner does not assess you, he writes the results then sends them to DOCEP,
who then will notify you of your result.
Don't forget to put danger tags on all the leads and call the assessor after finishing the job,
but before testing as he will switch on the power,
if he tells you to switch on and something blows it's his fault,
if you do it before you call him and something blows you will fail.
Four of the 6 jobs are mandatory i.e. you must pass them.
Theory Exam
There are different theory papers so you might get other questions so the content can be different,so good luck with the exam.
The theory has questions on safety, transformers, fuses,regulation questions,
.
The theory was a mixture of wiring rules and electricial theory,such as what light not to use in a hazardous area.
Line and phase current.
How much does conduit shrink at 10 degrees.
Undergroung trunking.
What size earth bonding.
Size of MEM link.
What colour wire don't you use as active.
Feb 21st 2007, 8:31 pm
#3
Sparky Stu
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 612
Re: exams
Hi thought this might help somebody who is going for their WA electricial fitters licence.Just some things off another site and from my exam.Remember that there is more than one version of this exam,its just to give you an idea on what sort of format it is.
I never used the cable selection book at all,could have saved money not buying it.The prac,well do the things you know how to do first,then move on to the next harder thing.You have a limited time to do them all so don't mess about with the hardest first.
For those who think a growler is a pork pie read this bit.
I used to use a growler years ago on automotive
generators
and starters. It is pretty basic to use. There are three tests that I
remember making on it. For all tests you put the center part of the
armature
in the "V" of the growler. For the first test turn the growler on. Hold
the
little steel blade (looks like a large feeler blade) on the top of the
armature parallel to the armature shaft. Rotate the armature slowly in the
"V" and if the steel blade vibrates on the armature at any point then the
armature is shorted and needs to be replaced.
The second test tests for differences of resistance in the various
windings,
if I remember correctly. The armature is set in the growler the same as
above. There is two pronged handle (red on the ones I've used) that sets
in a
cradle. You adjust the cradle so that the two prongs touch two copper
segments on the comutator. The contact points for the two pronged handle
are
to be with the comutator segments at the 3:00 position (side). With the
growler turned on and the two pronged handle contacting two segments on
the
comutator you can take a reading on the meter (it seems to me that there
was
an adjustment knob for adjusting the reading on the meter). The initial
reading is not what is critical. What you are looking for is if each pair
of
comutator segments reads the same as each other. Otherwise the armature
needs
to be replaced.
The last test uses two single probes (one red & one black). They are
connected to continuity meter. You use them to see if the armature
windings
are shorted to ground. You use the two probes by touching one to any
copper
commutator bar. The other probe is touched to the armature shaft. If the
meter reads continuity then the armature is shorted to ground and needs to
be
replaced. Hope this helps.
The Electricial Fitter Licence West Australia
There might be one than one type of test but this is what I did in mine.
There were 6 jobs,you could choose the order,
1.Direct online motor first with 2 stop start stations with the motor connected in delta,no drawings,so you have to be capable of doing drawings,
then you have to reverse the direction.
2. Then test 2 appliances- might be 2 irons, writing down all the testing you do,and any faults.
They could be ok or not,check the plugs for polarity.
3. Wire up a capacitor start single phase motor with centrifugal switch, before you start,
test all components as nothing is marked,such as centrifugal switch which will give you a zero reading on ohm's scale.
The capacitor will give you an infinite reading on ohm's scale.
Your starting winding will have a higher resistance than your running winding.
When finished, reverse direction of motor.
4. Next,identify and label the primary and secondary windings of a 3 phase transformer,then connect in star delta,
then take voltage readings of primary side and secondary side.
5. Test 3 armatures for short circuit, open circuit and earth fault with a growler,
and write a report as to whether each is acceptable to use.
6. Connect up a fluorescent fitting with two 18 watt fluorescent tubes and one 36 watt choke,connect them up in series
and you MUST do an electrical schematic drawing of the circuit.
The examiner does not assess you, he writes the results then sends them to DOCEP,
who then will notify you of your result.
Don't forget to put danger tags on all the leads and call the assessor after finishing the job,
but before testing as he will switch on the power,
if he tells you to switch on and something blows it's his fault,
if you do it before you call him and something blows you will fail.
Four of the 6 jobs are mandatory i.e. you must pass them.
Theory Exam
There are different theory papers so you might get other questions so the content can be different,so good luck with the exam.
The theory has questions on safety, transformers, fuses,regulation questions,
.
The theory was a mixture of wiring rules and electricial theory,such as what light not to use in a hazardous area.
Line and phase current.
How much does conduit shrink at 10 degrees.
Undergroung trunking.
What size earth bonding.
Size of MEM link.
What colour wire don't you use as active.
I never used the cable selection book at all,could have saved money not buying it.The prac,well do the things you know how to do first,then move on to the next harder thing.You have a limited time to do them all so don't mess about with the hardest first.
For those who think a growler is a pork pie read this bit.
I used to use a growler years ago on automotive
generators
and starters. It is pretty basic to use. There are three tests that I
remember making on it. For all tests you put the center part of the
armature
in the "V" of the growler. For the first test turn the growler on. Hold
the
little steel blade (looks like a large feeler blade) on the top of the
armature parallel to the armature shaft. Rotate the armature slowly in the
"V" and if the steel blade vibrates on the armature at any point then the
armature is shorted and needs to be replaced.
The second test tests for differences of resistance in the various
windings,
if I remember correctly. The armature is set in the growler the same as
above. There is two pronged handle (red on the ones I've used) that sets
in a
cradle. You adjust the cradle so that the two prongs touch two copper
segments on the comutator. The contact points for the two pronged handle
are
to be with the comutator segments at the 3:00 position (side). With the
growler turned on and the two pronged handle contacting two segments on
the
comutator you can take a reading on the meter (it seems to me that there
was
an adjustment knob for adjusting the reading on the meter). The initial
reading is not what is critical. What you are looking for is if each pair
of
comutator segments reads the same as each other. Otherwise the armature
needs
to be replaced.
The last test uses two single probes (one red & one black). They are
connected to continuity meter. You use them to see if the armature
windings
are shorted to ground. You use the two probes by touching one to any
copper
commutator bar. The other probe is touched to the armature shaft. If the
meter reads continuity then the armature is shorted to ground and needs to
be
replaced. Hope this helps.
The Electricial Fitter Licence West Australia
There might be one than one type of test but this is what I did in mine.
There were 6 jobs,you could choose the order,
1.Direct online motor first with 2 stop start stations with the motor connected in delta,no drawings,so you have to be capable of doing drawings,
then you have to reverse the direction.
2. Then test 2 appliances- might be 2 irons, writing down all the testing you do,and any faults.
They could be ok or not,check the plugs for polarity.
3. Wire up a capacitor start single phase motor with centrifugal switch, before you start,
test all components as nothing is marked,such as centrifugal switch which will give you a zero reading on ohm's scale.
The capacitor will give you an infinite reading on ohm's scale.
Your starting winding will have a higher resistance than your running winding.
When finished, reverse direction of motor.
4. Next,identify and label the primary and secondary windings of a 3 phase transformer,then connect in star delta,
then take voltage readings of primary side and secondary side.
5. Test 3 armatures for short circuit, open circuit and earth fault with a growler,
and write a report as to whether each is acceptable to use.
6. Connect up a fluorescent fitting with two 18 watt fluorescent tubes and one 36 watt choke,connect them up in series
and you MUST do an electrical schematic drawing of the circuit.
The examiner does not assess you, he writes the results then sends them to DOCEP,
who then will notify you of your result.
Don't forget to put danger tags on all the leads and call the assessor after finishing the job,
but before testing as he will switch on the power,
if he tells you to switch on and something blows it's his fault,
if you do it before you call him and something blows you will fail.
Four of the 6 jobs are mandatory i.e. you must pass them.
Theory Exam
There are different theory papers so you might get other questions so the content can be different,so good luck with the exam.
The theory has questions on safety, transformers, fuses,regulation questions,
.
The theory was a mixture of wiring rules and electricial theory,such as what light not to use in a hazardous area.
Line and phase current.
How much does conduit shrink at 10 degrees.
Undergroung trunking.
What size earth bonding.
Size of MEM link.
What colour wire don't you use as active.
Feb 25th 2007, 11:02 pm
#4
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Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 980
Re: exams
sonic, may i ask did you do the exam for Fitter, in W/A if so thats the only difference i can see befween Fitter & Mechanic. In victoria i did the Mechanic's A class & its a nightmare mate, to be honest i think thats the only exam they do here. So for any poor sod who has done no installation work or cable calc's they are up shit's creek without a paddle.
arthur
arthur
Feb 26th 2007, 1:00 am
#5
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Thread Starter
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Victoria Point Qld
Posts: 373
Re: exams
Hi Arthur,yes I did just the fitter exam in WA.
cheers John
cheers John
Feb 26th 2007, 2:36 am
#6
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Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 980
Re: exams
John, it seems a world apart the exams for the Fitter & Mechanic, in victoria i have not heard of the Fitters license it may be there but ive not heard about it.
Ive spoken to blokes who work on maintenance only and they have had to do the vic exams all geared for the installation spark unfortunately.
arthur
Ive spoken to blokes who work on maintenance only and they have had to do the vic exams all geared for the installation spark unfortunately.
arthur
