all Qld electricians
Sep 21st 2006, 11:05 am
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This is the email I was sent when we asked what courses John would have to do,hope it might give you some pointers.
The normal process is:
John's application for recognition as an Electrician, here in Australia and then in Queensland, takes the form of a number of steps. Firstly, if John's application is accepted by TRA he will be notified that he has been recognised as a 'General Electrician' for migration purposes only. (he may be recognised for other skills too but I am focussing on the Electrical outcome). The letter from TRA will also inform him that on arrival in Australia he will have to contact the Australian Recognition Trades Council to have his qualifications, skills and experience assessed again.
This time, a determination will be made as to whether to issue John with an Electrical Mechanics, or an Electrical Fitters endorsement, or a combination of both. He may have other 'skills sets' that he may be endorsed for as well. Be aware that there is a fee for this process.
The main difference between the work of an Electrical Fitter and an Electrical Mechanic outcome is:
the Electrical Mechanic can do electrical installation, maintenance and repair work in various areas such as Domestic, Commercial, Industrial and Petro-Chemical sites, etc, whereas,
an Electrical Fitter is limited to Industrial Electrical maintenance, repairs, apparatus-testing, panel wiring in Motor Control Centre construction,as well as, repairs and construction of Switchboards,Transformers and Motor windings or appliance repair in a factory-workshop environment BUT NO ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION WORK !
So it is very important that he fully describes the range and type of work experiences and skills that he has attained from apprenticeship until now. He should be very specific about the types of installations and the types of work he has carried out and the equipment that he has worked on and or installed, etc. He should describe the type of cabling systems he may or may not have installed, maintained. Moreover, he should distinguish between Single phase, Three phase and/or High Voltage (if relevant),also.
Once he has an Australian Trade Recognition Certificate identifying his trade calling, (this a Green and Yellow Certificate that is laminated and sealed in plastic).
John will then have to apply to the Queensland Electrical Licensing Board for a Queensland Licence. He will need to download a Form 11 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice) from the www.eso.qld.gov.au website.
Click on Licensing found in the centre of the green Dept Industrial Relations website
Click on Applications for Licences next screen,
Select 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice)' Form 11,
Download and complete.
John will then have to forward the completed Form 11 to the Licensing Board, (the address found at the bottom of the last page), along with :
Certified copies of the Australian Trade Recognition Certificate, (the laminated green and gold certificate mentioned above) ,and,
Certified copies of CPR and Low Voltage Switchboard Rescue, (these only remain current or six months, so wait until you get set-up here before you attempt these two areas. (give me a call when you get here, I may be able to assist you as to how, when and where,etc, and,
pay the prescribed fee. (this mentioned on the form)
They will probably issue John with a Work Training Permit in the interim. This will enable John to find:
employment with an Electrical Contracting firm, while at the same time,
contact people like myself, at a SRTO (Supervising Registered Training Organisation) in this case Yeronga TAFE, to determine what else he needs to do to meet local requirements.
It is at this stage, after all requirements have been met that a Completion statement will be issued for John and faxed to the Electrical Licensing Board for the issue of an Electrical Licence specific to the trade calling. Whew! I trust this doesn't turn you off coming here. It is a lot shorter telling it or simpler doing it than writing it.
))
The Australian Standard AS3000.2000 Wiring Rules that you mention, is only one element that is equivalent to John's 16th Edition. There are also AS/NZ3008.1.Low Voltage Cable Selection, as well as AS/NZ3017, AS3018, AS4836 and AS3760 to be considered. however AS3000.2000 and AS/NZ3008.1.1 are the main standards that John will need to purchase for the course. To familiarise himself with the Standards, John can look these up on the Standards Australia website.
It will depend on the outcome of the TRA assessment and when you are planning to arrive in Australia that will determine what the next steps are.
Have more questions? You are welcome to contact by email and when you are in Queensland on 0427643567 mobile or (07) 3892-0451 (work)
Cheers
Alex Josephs
Leading Vocational Teacher - Electrical
Licensing issues
The normal process is:
John's application for recognition as an Electrician, here in Australia and then in Queensland, takes the form of a number of steps. Firstly, if John's application is accepted by TRA he will be notified that he has been recognised as a 'General Electrician' for migration purposes only. (he may be recognised for other skills too but I am focussing on the Electrical outcome). The letter from TRA will also inform him that on arrival in Australia he will have to contact the Australian Recognition Trades Council to have his qualifications, skills and experience assessed again.
This time, a determination will be made as to whether to issue John with an Electrical Mechanics, or an Electrical Fitters endorsement, or a combination of both. He may have other 'skills sets' that he may be endorsed for as well. Be aware that there is a fee for this process.
The main difference between the work of an Electrical Fitter and an Electrical Mechanic outcome is:
the Electrical Mechanic can do electrical installation, maintenance and repair work in various areas such as Domestic, Commercial, Industrial and Petro-Chemical sites, etc, whereas,
an Electrical Fitter is limited to Industrial Electrical maintenance, repairs, apparatus-testing, panel wiring in Motor Control Centre construction,as well as, repairs and construction of Switchboards,Transformers and Motor windings or appliance repair in a factory-workshop environment BUT NO ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION WORK !
So it is very important that he fully describes the range and type of work experiences and skills that he has attained from apprenticeship until now. He should be very specific about the types of installations and the types of work he has carried out and the equipment that he has worked on and or installed, etc. He should describe the type of cabling systems he may or may not have installed, maintained. Moreover, he should distinguish between Single phase, Three phase and/or High Voltage (if relevant),also.
Once he has an Australian Trade Recognition Certificate identifying his trade calling, (this a Green and Yellow Certificate that is laminated and sealed in plastic).
John will then have to apply to the Queensland Electrical Licensing Board for a Queensland Licence. He will need to download a Form 11 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice) from the www.eso.qld.gov.au website.
Click on Licensing found in the centre of the green Dept Industrial Relations website
Click on Applications for Licences next screen,
Select 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice)' Form 11,
Download and complete.
John will then have to forward the completed Form 11 to the Licensing Board, (the address found at the bottom of the last page), along with :
Certified copies of the Australian Trade Recognition Certificate, (the laminated green and gold certificate mentioned above) ,and,
Certified copies of CPR and Low Voltage Switchboard Rescue, (these only remain current or six months, so wait until you get set-up here before you attempt these two areas. (give me a call when you get here, I may be able to assist you as to how, when and where,etc, and,
pay the prescribed fee. (this mentioned on the form)
They will probably issue John with a Work Training Permit in the interim. This will enable John to find:
employment with an Electrical Contracting firm, while at the same time,
contact people like myself, at a SRTO (Supervising Registered Training Organisation) in this case Yeronga TAFE, to determine what else he needs to do to meet local requirements.
It is at this stage, after all requirements have been met that a Completion statement will be issued for John and faxed to the Electrical Licensing Board for the issue of an Electrical Licence specific to the trade calling. Whew! I trust this doesn't turn you off coming here. It is a lot shorter telling it or simpler doing it than writing it.
)) The Australian Standard AS3000.2000 Wiring Rules that you mention, is only one element that is equivalent to John's 16th Edition. There are also AS/NZ3008.1.Low Voltage Cable Selection, as well as AS/NZ3017, AS3018, AS4836 and AS3760 to be considered. however AS3000.2000 and AS/NZ3008.1.1 are the main standards that John will need to purchase for the course. To familiarise himself with the Standards, John can look these up on the Standards Australia website.
It will depend on the outcome of the TRA assessment and when you are planning to arrive in Australia that will determine what the next steps are.
Have more questions? You are welcome to contact by email and when you are in Queensland on 0427643567 mobile or (07) 3892-0451 (work)
Cheers
Alex Josephs
Leading Vocational Teacher - Electrical
Licensing issues
Sep 21st 2006, 11:30 am
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Re: all Qld electricians
Originally Posted by supersonic4
This is the email I was sent when we asked what courses John would have to do,hope it might give you some pointers.
The normal process is:
John's application for recognition as an Electrician, here in Australia and then in Queensland, takes the form of a number of steps. Firstly, if John's application is accepted by TRA he will be notified that he has been recognised as a 'General Electrician' for migration purposes only. (he may be recognised for other skills too but I am focussing on the Electrical outcome). The letter from TRA will also inform him that on arrival in Australia he will have to contact the Australian Recognition Trades Council to have his qualifications, skills and experience assessed again.
This time, a determination will be made as to whether to issue John with an Electrical Mechanics, or an Electrical Fitters endorsement, or a combination of both. He may have other 'skills sets' that he may be endorsed for as well. Be aware that there is a fee for this process.
The main difference between the work of an Electrical Fitter and an Electrical Mechanic outcome is:
the Electrical Mechanic can do electrical installation, maintenance and repair work in various areas such as Domestic, Commercial, Industrial and Petro-Chemical sites, etc, whereas,
an Electrical Fitter is limited to Industrial Electrical maintenance, repairs, apparatus-testing, panel wiring in Motor Control Centre construction,as well as, repairs and construction of Switchboards,Transformers and Motor windings or appliance repair in a factory-workshop environment BUT NO ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION WORK !
So it is very important that he fully describes the range and type of work experiences and skills that he has attained from apprenticeship until now. He should be very specific about the types of installations and the types of work he has carried out and the equipment that he has worked on and or installed, etc. He should describe the type of cabling systems he may or may not have installed, maintained. Moreover, he should distinguish between Single phase, Three phase and/or High Voltage (if relevant),also.
Once he has an Australian Trade Recognition Certificate identifying his trade calling, (this a Green and Yellow Certificate that is laminated and sealed in plastic).
John will then have to apply to the Queensland Electrical Licensing Board for a Queensland Licence. He will need to download a Form 11 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice) from the www.eso.qld.gov.au website.
Click on Licensing found in the centre of the green Dept Industrial Relations website
Click on Applications for Licences next screen,
Select 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice)' Form 11,
Download and complete.
John will then have to forward the completed Form 11 to the Licensing Board, (the address found at the bottom of the last page), along with :
Certified copies of the Australian Trade Recognition Certificate, (the laminated green and gold certificate mentioned above) ,and,
Certified copies of CPR and Low Voltage Switchboard Rescue, (these only remain current or six months, so wait until you get set-up here before you attempt these two areas. (give me a call when you get here, I may be able to assist you as to how, when and where,etc, and,
pay the prescribed fee. (this mentioned on the form)
They will probably issue John with a Work Training Permit in the interim. This will enable John to find:
employment with an Electrical Contracting firm, while at the same time,
contact people like myself, at a SRTO (Supervising Registered Training Organisation) in this case Yeronga TAFE, to determine what else he needs to do to meet local requirements.
It is at this stage, after all requirements have been met that a Completion statement will be issued for John and faxed to the Electrical Licensing Board for the issue of an Electrical Licence specific to the trade calling. Whew! I trust this doesn't turn you off coming here. It is a lot shorter telling it or simpler doing it than writing it.))
The Australian Standard AS3000.2000 Wiring Rules that you mention, is only one element that is equivalent to John's 16th Edition. There are also AS/NZ3008.1.Low Voltage Cable Selection, as well as AS/NZ3017, AS3018, AS4836 and AS3760 to be considered. however AS3000.2000 and AS/NZ3008.1.1 are the main standards that John will need to purchase for the course. To familiarise himself with the Standards, John can look these up on the Standards Australia website.
It will depend on the outcome of the TRA assessment and when you are planning to arrive in Australia that will determine what the next steps are.
Have more questions? You are welcome to contact by email and when you are in Queensland on 0427643567 mobile or (07) 3892-0451 (work)
Cheers
Alex Josephs
Leading Vocational Teacher - Electrical
Licensing issues
The normal process is:
John's application for recognition as an Electrician, here in Australia and then in Queensland, takes the form of a number of steps. Firstly, if John's application is accepted by TRA he will be notified that he has been recognised as a 'General Electrician' for migration purposes only. (he may be recognised for other skills too but I am focussing on the Electrical outcome). The letter from TRA will also inform him that on arrival in Australia he will have to contact the Australian Recognition Trades Council to have his qualifications, skills and experience assessed again.
This time, a determination will be made as to whether to issue John with an Electrical Mechanics, or an Electrical Fitters endorsement, or a combination of both. He may have other 'skills sets' that he may be endorsed for as well. Be aware that there is a fee for this process.
The main difference between the work of an Electrical Fitter and an Electrical Mechanic outcome is:
the Electrical Mechanic can do electrical installation, maintenance and repair work in various areas such as Domestic, Commercial, Industrial and Petro-Chemical sites, etc, whereas,
an Electrical Fitter is limited to Industrial Electrical maintenance, repairs, apparatus-testing, panel wiring in Motor Control Centre construction,as well as, repairs and construction of Switchboards,Transformers and Motor windings or appliance repair in a factory-workshop environment BUT NO ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION WORK !
So it is very important that he fully describes the range and type of work experiences and skills that he has attained from apprenticeship until now. He should be very specific about the types of installations and the types of work he has carried out and the equipment that he has worked on and or installed, etc. He should describe the type of cabling systems he may or may not have installed, maintained. Moreover, he should distinguish between Single phase, Three phase and/or High Voltage (if relevant),also.
Once he has an Australian Trade Recognition Certificate identifying his trade calling, (this a Green and Yellow Certificate that is laminated and sealed in plastic).
John will then have to apply to the Queensland Electrical Licensing Board for a Queensland Licence. He will need to download a Form 11 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice) from the www.eso.qld.gov.au website.
Click on Licensing found in the centre of the green Dept Industrial Relations website
Click on Applications for Licences next screen,
Select 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice)' Form 11,
Download and complete.
John will then have to forward the completed Form 11 to the Licensing Board, (the address found at the bottom of the last page), along with :
Certified copies of the Australian Trade Recognition Certificate, (the laminated green and gold certificate mentioned above) ,and,
Certified copies of CPR and Low Voltage Switchboard Rescue, (these only remain current or six months, so wait until you get set-up here before you attempt these two areas. (give me a call when you get here, I may be able to assist you as to how, when and where,etc, and,
pay the prescribed fee. (this mentioned on the form)
They will probably issue John with a Work Training Permit in the interim. This will enable John to find:
employment with an Electrical Contracting firm, while at the same time,
contact people like myself, at a SRTO (Supervising Registered Training Organisation) in this case Yeronga TAFE, to determine what else he needs to do to meet local requirements.
It is at this stage, after all requirements have been met that a Completion statement will be issued for John and faxed to the Electrical Licensing Board for the issue of an Electrical Licence specific to the trade calling. Whew! I trust this doesn't turn you off coming here. It is a lot shorter telling it or simpler doing it than writing it.
)) The Australian Standard AS3000.2000 Wiring Rules that you mention, is only one element that is equivalent to John's 16th Edition. There are also AS/NZ3008.1.Low Voltage Cable Selection, as well as AS/NZ3017, AS3018, AS4836 and AS3760 to be considered. however AS3000.2000 and AS/NZ3008.1.1 are the main standards that John will need to purchase for the course. To familiarise himself with the Standards, John can look these up on the Standards Australia website.
It will depend on the outcome of the TRA assessment and when you are planning to arrive in Australia that will determine what the next steps are.
Have more questions? You are welcome to contact by email and when you are in Queensland on 0427643567 mobile or (07) 3892-0451 (work)
Cheers
Alex Josephs
Leading Vocational Teacher - Electrical
Licensing issues
It's not as bad as it sounds honey, try not to worry too much.
Although Queensland so seem to be the hardest of states to get sorted out in.We have been here for 11 weeks and nearly have the licence, hubby is doing a three week course in October to get his licence, then he'll be away and working. Just make sure that you have enough money to cover you for a while and it will all be fine
Sep 21st 2006, 12:58 pm
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Re: all Qld electricians
Originally Posted by supersonic4
This is the email I was sent when we asked what courses John would have to do,hope it might give you some pointers.
The normal process is:
John's application for recognition as an Electrician, here in Australia and then in Queensland, takes the form of a number of steps. Firstly, if John's application is accepted by TRA he will be notified that he has been recognised as a 'General Electrician' for migration purposes only. (he may be recognised for other skills too but I am focussing on the Electrical outcome). The letter from TRA will also inform him that on arrival in Australia he will have to contact the Australian Recognition Trades Council to have his qualifications, skills and experience assessed again.
This time, a determination will be made as to whether to issue John with an Electrical Mechanics, or an Electrical Fitters endorsement, or a combination of both. He may have other 'skills sets' that he may be endorsed for as well. Be aware that there is a fee for this process.
The main difference between the work of an Electrical Fitter and an Electrical Mechanic outcome is:
the Electrical Mechanic can do electrical installation, maintenance and repair work in various areas such as Domestic, Commercial, Industrial and Petro-Chemical sites, etc, whereas,
an Electrical Fitter is limited to Industrial Electrical maintenance, repairs, apparatus-testing, panel wiring in Motor Control Centre construction,as well as, repairs and construction of Switchboards,Transformers and Motor windings or appliance repair in a factory-workshop environment BUT NO ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION WORK !
So it is very important that he fully describes the range and type of work experiences and skills that he has attained from apprenticeship until now. He should be very specific about the types of installations and the types of work he has carried out and the equipment that he has worked on and or installed, etc. He should describe the type of cabling systems he may or may not have installed, maintained. Moreover, he should distinguish between Single phase, Three phase and/or High Voltage (if relevant),also.
Once he has an Australian Trade Recognition Certificate identifying his trade calling, (this a Green and Yellow Certificate that is laminated and sealed in plastic).
John will then have to apply to the Queensland Electrical Licensing Board for a Queensland Licence. He will need to download a Form 11 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice) from the www.eso.qld.gov.au website.
Click on Licensing found in the centre of the green Dept Industrial Relations website
Click on Applications for Licences next screen,
Select 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice)' Form 11,
Download and complete.
John will then have to forward the completed Form 11 to the Licensing Board, (the address found at the bottom of the last page), along with :
Certified copies of the Australian Trade Recognition Certificate, (the laminated green and gold certificate mentioned above) ,and,
Certified copies of CPR and Low Voltage Switchboard Rescue, (these only remain current or six months, so wait until you get set-up here before you attempt these two areas. (give me a call when you get here, I may be able to assist you as to how, when and where,etc, and,
pay the prescribed fee. (this mentioned on the form)
They will probably issue John with a Work Training Permit in the interim. This will enable John to find:
employment with an Electrical Contracting firm, while at the same time,
contact people like myself, at a SRTO (Supervising Registered Training Organisation) in this case Yeronga TAFE, to determine what else he needs to do to meet local requirements.
It is at this stage, after all requirements have been met that a Completion statement will be issued for John and faxed to the Electrical Licensing Board for the issue of an Electrical Licence specific to the trade calling. Whew! I trust this doesn't turn you off coming here. It is a lot shorter telling it or simpler doing it than writing it.))
The Australian Standard AS3000.2000 Wiring Rules that you mention, is only one element that is equivalent to John's 16th Edition. There are also AS/NZ3008.1.Low Voltage Cable Selection, as well as AS/NZ3017, AS3018, AS4836 and AS3760 to be considered. however AS3000.2000 and AS/NZ3008.1.1 are the main standards that John will need to purchase for the course. To familiarise himself with the Standards, John can look these up on the Standards Australia website.
It will depend on the outcome of the TRA assessment and when you are planning to arrive in Australia that will determine what the next steps are.
Have more questions? You are welcome to contact by email and when you are in Queensland on 0427643567 mobile or (07) 3892-0451 (work)
Cheers
Alex Josephs
Leading Vocational Teacher - Electrical
Licensing issues
The normal process is:
John's application for recognition as an Electrician, here in Australia and then in Queensland, takes the form of a number of steps. Firstly, if John's application is accepted by TRA he will be notified that he has been recognised as a 'General Electrician' for migration purposes only. (he may be recognised for other skills too but I am focussing on the Electrical outcome). The letter from TRA will also inform him that on arrival in Australia he will have to contact the Australian Recognition Trades Council to have his qualifications, skills and experience assessed again.
This time, a determination will be made as to whether to issue John with an Electrical Mechanics, or an Electrical Fitters endorsement, or a combination of both. He may have other 'skills sets' that he may be endorsed for as well. Be aware that there is a fee for this process.
The main difference between the work of an Electrical Fitter and an Electrical Mechanic outcome is:
the Electrical Mechanic can do electrical installation, maintenance and repair work in various areas such as Domestic, Commercial, Industrial and Petro-Chemical sites, etc, whereas,
an Electrical Fitter is limited to Industrial Electrical maintenance, repairs, apparatus-testing, panel wiring in Motor Control Centre construction,as well as, repairs and construction of Switchboards,Transformers and Motor windings or appliance repair in a factory-workshop environment BUT NO ELECTRICAL INSTALLATION WORK !
So it is very important that he fully describes the range and type of work experiences and skills that he has attained from apprenticeship until now. He should be very specific about the types of installations and the types of work he has carried out and the equipment that he has worked on and or installed, etc. He should describe the type of cabling systems he may or may not have installed, maintained. Moreover, he should distinguish between Single phase, Three phase and/or High Voltage (if relevant),also.
Once he has an Australian Trade Recognition Certificate identifying his trade calling, (this a Green and Yellow Certificate that is laminated and sealed in plastic).
John will then have to apply to the Queensland Electrical Licensing Board for a Queensland Licence. He will need to download a Form 11 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice) from the www.eso.qld.gov.au website.
Click on Licensing found in the centre of the green Dept Industrial Relations website
Click on Applications for Licences next screen,
Select 'Application for an Electrical Work Licence/Permit (other then apprentice)' Form 11,
Download and complete.
John will then have to forward the completed Form 11 to the Licensing Board, (the address found at the bottom of the last page), along with :
Certified copies of the Australian Trade Recognition Certificate, (the laminated green and gold certificate mentioned above) ,and,
Certified copies of CPR and Low Voltage Switchboard Rescue, (these only remain current or six months, so wait until you get set-up here before you attempt these two areas. (give me a call when you get here, I may be able to assist you as to how, when and where,etc, and,
pay the prescribed fee. (this mentioned on the form)
They will probably issue John with a Work Training Permit in the interim. This will enable John to find:
employment with an Electrical Contracting firm, while at the same time,
contact people like myself, at a SRTO (Supervising Registered Training Organisation) in this case Yeronga TAFE, to determine what else he needs to do to meet local requirements.
It is at this stage, after all requirements have been met that a Completion statement will be issued for John and faxed to the Electrical Licensing Board for the issue of an Electrical Licence specific to the trade calling. Whew! I trust this doesn't turn you off coming here. It is a lot shorter telling it or simpler doing it than writing it.
)) The Australian Standard AS3000.2000 Wiring Rules that you mention, is only one element that is equivalent to John's 16th Edition. There are also AS/NZ3008.1.Low Voltage Cable Selection, as well as AS/NZ3017, AS3018, AS4836 and AS3760 to be considered. however AS3000.2000 and AS/NZ3008.1.1 are the main standards that John will need to purchase for the course. To familiarise himself with the Standards, John can look these up on the Standards Australia website.
It will depend on the outcome of the TRA assessment and when you are planning to arrive in Australia that will determine what the next steps are.
Have more questions? You are welcome to contact by email and when you are in Queensland on 0427643567 mobile or (07) 3892-0451 (work)
Cheers
Alex Josephs
Leading Vocational Teacher - Electrical
Licensing issues
Thanks for this - we'll be going down the same route as you guys for Queensland applying for both Fitter and Mechanic when we get over there - hopefully mid 2007. O/H is maintenance electrician currently but wants to work on open mining as spark. I just keep cribbing all the info together and reading up on as much as we can - let's hope it's a bit more straightforward when we're out there.
Good luck
Sarah
