Wanting to return to the UK after 9 years
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Re: Wanting to return to the UK after 9 years
You're going to need that for either citizenship or an UK Ancestry visa. The fallback position would be to be included as a dependent on your husband's UK Ancestry visa.
Try applying to the General Register Office for your mother's consular/military birth certificate. If it doesn't exist then your fee will be refunded.
Try applying to the General Register Office for your mother's consular/military birth certificate. If it doesn't exist then your fee will be refunded.
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Re: Wanting to return to the UK after 9 years
You're going to need that for either citizenship or an UK Ancestry visa. The fallback position would be to be included as a dependent on your husband's UK Ancestry visa.
Try applying to the General Register Office for your mother's consular/military birth certificate. If it doesn't exist then your fee will be refunded.
Try applying to the General Register Office for your mother's consular/military birth certificate. If it doesn't exist then your fee will be refunded.
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Something that hasn't been mentioned but should be is that you need to apply for permission to retain your South African citizenship before lodging your application. Failure to gain permission before you attend your citizenship ceremony will lead to an automatic loss of South African citizenship. You need to apply to the Department of Home Affairs.
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Something that hasn't been mentioned but should be is that you need to apply for permission to retain your South African citizenship before lodging your application. Failure to gain permission before you attend your citizenship ceremony will lead to an automatic loss of South African citizenship. You need to apply to the Department of Home Affairs.
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Re: Wanting to return to the UK after 9 years
Also for any hard to get civic affairs documents bunnyhop ( co za) are very good and obtain all sorts of documents, UK ones, as well as birth certificates from Zimbabwe (for any readers needing them and living in SA or elsewhere). They did that for a friend of mine.
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If you do not have a credit card / or debit card that works overseas, as I know can be a problem in SA, your bank may issue prepaid credit cards. The amount will be automatically charged in rand though you pay in sterling.
Also for any hard to get civic affairs documents bunnyhop ( co za) are very good and obtain all sorts of documents, UK ones, as well as birth certificates from Zimbabwe (for any readers needing them and living in SA or elsewhere). They did that for a friend of mine.
Also for any hard to get civic affairs documents bunnyhop ( co za) are very good and obtain all sorts of documents, UK ones, as well as birth certificates from Zimbabwe (for any readers needing them and living in SA or elsewhere). They did that for a friend of mine.
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https://www.postoffice.co.uk/postal-orders
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If your relatives in UK dont have chequebooks you can ask if a postal order will be accepted. They usually are. Then maybe someone can get it for you in the UK and include it for the service records request..
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/postal-orders
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/postal-orders
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Further to my self-correction on Gregsrequest's thread I should inform you that your grandfather's Crown service will have no effect on your ability to claim British citizenship as you were born before 1983. Thankfully for you, it was your mother was British by descent, not your father. A recent Supreme Court decision addressing historic gender discrimination in British nationality law means that you can still register as a British citizen as your mother would have been unable to register you within a year of your birth in order to enable you to have British citizenship as would had been possible if it was your father who a British citizen by descent.
https://www.doyleclayton.co.uk/resou...h-citizenship/
In short, you should proceed with your Form UKM application but you won't need to include evidence of your grandfather's Crown service.
A similar route may be available to your husband - can you give a rundown of his ancestry as you did for yourself in post #16?
https://www.doyleclayton.co.uk/resou...h-citizenship/
In short, you should proceed with your Form UKM application but you won't need to include evidence of your grandfather's Crown service.
A similar route may be available to your husband - can you give a rundown of his ancestry as you did for yourself in post #16?
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Re: Wanting to return to the UK after 9 years
Further to my self-correction on Gregsrequest's thread I should inform you that your grandfather's Crown service will have no effect on your ability to claim British citizenship as you were born before 1983. Thankfully for you, it was your mother was British by descent, not your father. A recent Supreme Court decision addressing historic gender discrimination in British nationality law means that you can still register as a British citizen as your mother would have been unable to register you within a year of your birth in order to enable you to have British citizenship as would had been possible if it was your father who a British citizen by descent.
https://www.doyleclayton.co.uk/resou...h-citizenship/
In short, you should proceed with your Form UKM application but you won't need to include evidence of your grandfather's Crown service.
A similar route may be available to your husband - can you give a rundown of his ancestry as you did for yourself in post #16?
https://www.doyleclayton.co.uk/resou...h-citizenship/
In short, you should proceed with your Form UKM application but you won't need to include evidence of your grandfather's Crown service.
A similar route may be available to your husband - can you give a rundown of his ancestry as you did for yourself in post #16?
Thanks for letting me know. I actually wondered after reading Greg’s post. So to clarify my mom was born 1945 in PE. Her father was Scottish and her mother South African. My Grandfather was born in 1920. On this basis I can apply for citizenship?
My husband was born in 1971 in South Africa. His father was born in 1944 in Witbank South Africa (he never applied for a British passport) and my husbands fathers mother was born in England in 1906. Her husband was born in Lithuania in 1900 we just don’t know the exact birh date. We know he died in April 1948 at age 48 so he must of been born within the first 4 months of that year.
Do we need our Grandparents marriage certificates? We have both requested the birth certificate of the British grandparent.
On my husbands fathers birth certificate is states his grandmothers maiden name so is the marriage certificate of his grandparents necessary?
Please let me know if you need any further information. Thank you so much for all you do, you’ve helped so many people 🙂
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Yes.
My husband was born in 1971 in South Africa. His father was born in 1944 in Witbank South Africa (he never applied for a British passport) and my husbands fathers mother was born in England in 1906. Her husband was born in Lithuania in 1900 we just don’t know the exact birh date. We know he died in April 1948 at age 48 so he must of been born within the first 4 months of that year.
Do we need our Grandparents marriage certificates? We have both requested the birth certificate of the British grandparent.
On my husbands fathers birth certificate is states his grandmothers maiden name so is the marriage certificate of his grandparents necessary?
Please let me know if you need any further information. Thank you so much for all you do, you’ve helped so many people 🙂
Do we need our Grandparents marriage certificates? We have both requested the birth certificate of the British grandparent.
On my husbands fathers birth certificate is states his grandmothers maiden name so is the marriage certificate of his grandparents necessary?
Please let me know if you need any further information. Thank you so much for all you do, you’ve helped so many people 🙂