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Old Nov 5th 2016, 7:22 pm
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Hi, Im after some advice for my daughter and her boyfriend.
My daughter is a british citizen and has lived in NZ for 10 years. She is 22 and has a boyfriend of 6 years who is a kiwi, he is 24 and has no relatives that have British, Irish or EU heritage.
They would like to move to the UK next year and Im keen to know the best way the boyfriend can legally live here.
Its a permanent move, they fully intend to find work. What options does he have?
Many thanks for help in advance.
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As long as she can prove they have been living together for 12 months she can apply for a partner visa for him.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
As long as she can prove they have been living together for 12 months she can apply for a partner visa for him.
Slight correction here: they have to have been living together as man and wife in relationship akin to marriage for two years to obtain the partnership visa; plus she would have to sponsor him and meet financial requirements.

Other options: He could obtain his own work visa if he could obtain sponsorship from UK employer; Tier 5 mobility visa maybe.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
Slight correction here: they have to have been living together as man and wife in relationship akin to marriage for two years to obtain the partnership visa; plus she would have to sponsor him and meet financial requirements.

Other options: He could obtain his own work visa if he could obtain sponsorship from UK employer; Tier 5 mobility visa maybe.
Hi, They do live together, they can proove all aspects of that and their relationship although they only moved in together in March this year.
She had seen the UK residency card and sent me the link, i only looked briefly but didnt seem to think she had to sponser him etc so long as she was looking for work and could proove that?
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As your daughter is a British citizen she has two options for moving with her boyfriend to the UK

1. They both move to another European country where they live and work for several months and then they apply for a Family permit for him to move to the UK with her. (This method uses the European treaty right process, but she must have worked in another European country in order to do so). Relatively cheap, no major financial requirements to fulfill - however there must be proof of long standing relationship akin to marriage.

https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/overview

2. Under UK immigration rules, your daughter can sponsor her partner, but she needs to fulfill financial, accommodation and relationship criteria.

Basically she has to be (or have been) earning 18,600 GBP per annum and/or have job to go to in the UK also earning equivalent of 18,600 BP per annum - no "looking for work" option here.

Read the following websites carefully to see how she qualifies:

https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...equirement.pdf

If they have only been living together since March 2016 then they won't qualify for a partnership visa until May 2018. Marriage maybe?

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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
As your daughter is a British citizen she has two options for moving with her boyfriend to the UK

1. They both move to another European country where they live and work for several months and then they apply for a Family permit for him to move to the UK with her. (This method uses the European treaty right process, but she must have worked in another European country in order to do so). Relatively cheap, no major financial requirements to fulfill - however there must be proof of long standing relationship akin to marriage.

https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/overview

2. Under UK immigration rules, your daughter can sponsor her partner, but she needs to fulfill financial, accommodation and relationship criteria.

Basically she has to be (or have been) earning 18,600 GBP per annum and/or have job to go to in the UK also earning equivalent of 18,600 BP per annum

Read the following websites carefully to see how she qualifies:

https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...equirement.pdf

If they have only been living together since March 2016 then they won't qualify for a partnership visa until May 2018. Marriage maybe?

Would three months be sufficient for option (1) ? Howe long will that visa last for ? If non-EEA national caring for a child (who is British as well as father) make a difference or make the visa easier ?
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Would three months be sufficient for option (1) ? Howe long will that visa last for ? If non-EEA national caring for a child (who is British as well as father) make a difference or make the visa easier ?
The rule of thumb is that the family have moved to the other European country and made it their centre of life. they have jobs, accommodation and are part of the community.

British officials are wise to the quick move to another state just to get the Family permit.

Seen forum suggestions from a minimum of 6 months to over a year.

The initial family visa is for 6 months.

Can't answer your second question without further info. Would suggest you start your own thread.
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Tier 5 Youth Mobility Visa to start and then switch to a spouse visa when it expires or when they get married, whichever is sooner. That way both incomes can be used to meet the financial requirements for the spouse visa. Just be mindful that any time spent in the UK on a YMV won't count towards settlement so moving onto a spouse visa sooner rather than later is preferable.
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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
As your daughter is a British citizen she has two options for moving with her boyfriend to the UK

1. They both move to another European country where they live and work for several months and then they apply for a Family permit for him to move to the UK with her. (This method uses the European treaty right process, but she must have worked in another European country in order to do so). Relatively cheap, no major financial requirements to fulfill - however there must be proof of long standing relationship akin to marriage.

https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/overview

2. Under UK immigration rules, your daughter can sponsor her partner, but she needs to fulfill financial, accommodation and relationship criteria.

Basically she has to be (or have been) earning 18,600 GBP per annum and/or have job to go to in the UK also earning equivalent of 18,600 BP per annum - no "looking for work" option here. .....

If they have only been living together since March 2016 then they won't qualify for a partnership visa until May 2018. Marriage maybe?
Or 3. They could get married, then the time requirement goes away, but there's still the financial requirements.
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Or 3. They could get married, then the time requirement goes away, but there's still the financial requirements.
HI, yes I did suggest that or the Tier 5 visa.
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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
HI, yes I did suggest that or the Tier 5 visa.
Sorry, Ive been at work....thank you for your replies.

So my daughter had read that they only needed to be living together for 12 months and i did read it trapped in some link she sent me. Why is that not the case as Pulaski originally also stated?

Secondly at only nearly 23 she wont get married for a visa, she just wouldnt do it for those reasons.

Other than the 18500 salary what other financial requirements are there?

Thank you
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Sorry, Ive been at work....thank you for your replies.

So my daughter had read that they only needed to be living together for 12 months and i did read it trapped in some link she sent me. Why is that not the case as Pulaski originally also stated?

Secondly at only nearly 23 she wont get married for a visa, she just wouldnt do it for those reasons.

Other than the 18500 salary what other financial requirements are there?

Thank you

Had you read the link I sent you for "join family in the UK", under Eligibility you would have read:

Joining your partner
You must prove that you and your partner are 18 or over and in a genuine relationship.

You must be one of the following:

married or civil partners
living together in a relationship for 2 years
engaged to be married or to become civil partners


.... and if you had read the link to the financial requirements you would also have found plenty of information regarding the financial requirements criteria.

There are also accommodation (one has to have accommodation set up before the visa is issued) and relationship criteria to prove.

We have not suggested that she gets married so boyfriend gets a visa; we have suggested that if she wishes to live with her partner in another country then marrying would make them eligible to do so.

If they do not wish to marry then the other options we have suggested may be open to them - the partnership visa is not an option at this stage.
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Sorry, Ive been at work....thank you for your replies.

So my daughter had read that they only needed to be living together for 12 months and i did read it trapped in some link she sent me. Why is that not the case as Pulaski originally also stated?

Secondly at only nearly 23 she wont get married for a visa, she just wouldnt do it for those reasons.

Other than the 18500 salary what other financial requirements are there?

Thank you
Financial requirement is a job earning at lease £18600 p.a. for six months.

You cannot have your cake and eat it - as our European friends are now saying to us. Getting marry will solve the two year requirement problem.
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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl
Had you read the link I sent you for "join family in the UK", under Eligibility you would have read:

Joining your partner
You must prove that you and your partner are 18 or over and in a genuine relationship.

You must be one of the following:

married or civil partners
living together in a relationship for 2 years
engaged to be married or to become civil partners


.... and if you had read the link to the financial requirements you would also have found plenty of information regarding the financial requirements criteria.

There are also accommodation (one has to have accommodation set up before the visa is issued) and relationship criteria to prove.

We have not suggested that she gets married so boyfriend gets a visa; we have suggested that if she wishes to live with her partner in another country then marrying would make them eligible to do so.

If they do not wish to marry then the other options we have suggested may be open to them - the partnership visa is not an option at this stage.

Thank you, I realise we need to read all you sent and work through her options.
Could i possibly just ask, if her boyfriend got a job is there a visa he can apply for, for himself?

Thanks
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Financial requirement is a job earning at lease £18600 p.a. for six months.

You cannot have your cake and eat it - as our European friends are now saying to us. Getting marry will solve the two year requirement problem.

Thanks for your help.
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