UK Dual Citizen Entering UK on US Passport
Jun 11th 2014, 12:58 pm
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Don't let this hiccup spoil something you've been looking forward to for years - going home.
Jun 11th 2014, 12:58 pm
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Re: UK Dual Citizen Entering UK on US Passport
You are making things much more difficult for yourself than they really are.
Jun 11th 2014, 1:09 pm
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Re: UK Dual Citizen Entering UK on US Passport
There have been numerous posts here that have said that if my dogs travel with me it is a red flag that I plan to stay and with an expired UK passport, that's not good - they could refuse entry into the UK. It might also increase the chances of the airline in the US not letting me on board because it looks as though I am going to stay there in which case they would want to me sure I have the paperwork to live in the UK (so they don't have to pay for my return to the US) and I don't. My UK passport is expired.
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Jun 11th 2014, 1:11 pm
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Re: UK Dual Citizen Entering UK on US Passport
Now I'm confused! If Windsong flew out on her US passport (and renewed UK passport later), could she fly her dogs out, with help of friend, two days later?
Does someone check your pp when you fly yr dogs? If she flew out on a US passport would someone know? Would they stop the dogs from flying? How does this dog thing work?
Does someone check your pp when you fly yr dogs? If she flew out on a US passport would someone know? Would they stop the dogs from flying? How does this dog thing work?
Jun 11th 2014, 1:12 pm
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Re: UK Dual Citizen Entering UK on US Passport
Windsong - I know how much you love your dogs, but even if they were travelling on the same plane as you they wouldn't know it. If the path you've chosen is to get someone to take the dogs to the airport after you've flown out, then it'll only be a matter of a day or two that you're separated from them - you can be at the other end waiting for them.
Don't let this hiccup spoil something you've been looking forward to for years - going home.
Don't let this hiccup spoil something you've been looking forward to for years - going home.
Jun 11th 2014, 1:14 pm
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Re: UK Dual Citizen Entering UK on US Passport
Now I'm confused! If Windsong flew out on her US passport (and renewed UK passport later), could she fly her dogs out, with help of friend, two days later?
Does someone check your pp when you fly yr dogs? If she flew out on a US passport would someone know? Would they stop the dogs from flying? How does this dog thing work?
Does someone check your pp when you fly yr dogs? If she flew out on a US passport would someone know? Would they stop the dogs from flying? How does this dog thing work?
Also, an ex-immigration officer here in this thread suggested that the airline in the US might not let me board the plane if I have the dogs with me AND a UK expired passport. They don't want to risk my being returned to the US because they have to pay the flight.
I have received conflicting comments about how many US citizens fly to the UK on holiday and take their dogs. The ETD department told me many do but someone here who is in a position to know told me it is rare because the US citizens get short vacation time. It would be a red flag.
Granted, I can enter on my US passport as a visitor - but with the dogs?
One good thing in all this is that I have found a vet who has prepared dogs for UK travel many times. I talked on the phone with him for 30 minutes last night. He knows the process inside out. That's a big relief.
Truthfully, I am appalled that I cannot get my passport renewed in even SIX weeks. I would stay if I thought I could get it back in time but they are taking 12 weeks or more. One person in another thread even waited 20 weeks. I am sure I could stay with my friend for a few weeks after I move out of here, making my total time left here about six weeks but no longer.
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Jun 11th 2014, 1:18 pm
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I'll leave you to it then, good luck!
Jun 11th 2014, 1:23 pm
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I appreciate everyone's comments and suggestions - I really do.
Jun 11th 2014, 2:14 pm
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I'd expect the biggest red flag in terms of whether or not windsong intends to remain in the UK permanently to be the answer "for ever" to the question "how long do you intend to remain in the UK" on the landing card she will need to fill in.
Having dogs with you as well is not going to be much of a problem after the IO reads that.
Having dogs with you and putting something else, something untrue, on the landing card is a bigger problem. Putting anything untrue on the landing card is a big issue and that is what the original IO will likely have been advising you about.
As it stands windsong, you have the right of abode in the UK, that means you have a right to enter and remain permanently. Everything you are worrying about is simply whether or not someone else will believe you. That person has access to the same info as the passport office - and you expect them to be willing to give you a passport. The only risk here is that you will have to wait for an hour while the IO goes and checks the systems.
Having dogs with you as well is not going to be much of a problem after the IO reads that.
Having dogs with you and putting something else, something untrue, on the landing card is a bigger problem. Putting anything untrue on the landing card is a big issue and that is what the original IO will likely have been advising you about.
As it stands windsong, you have the right of abode in the UK, that means you have a right to enter and remain permanently. Everything you are worrying about is simply whether or not someone else will believe you. That person has access to the same info as the passport office - and you expect them to be willing to give you a passport. The only risk here is that you will have to wait for an hour while the IO goes and checks the systems.
Jun 11th 2014, 2:18 pm
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Jun 11th 2014, 2:25 pm
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I'd expect the biggest red flag in terms of whether or not windsong intends to remain in the UK permanently to be the answer "for ever" to the question "how long do you intend to remain in the UK" on the landing card she will need to fill in.
Having dogs with you as well is not going to be much of a problem after the IO reads that.
Having dogs with you and putting something else, something untrue, on the landing card is a bigger problem. Putting anything untrue on the landing card is a big issue and that is what the original IO will likely have been advising you about.
As it stands windsong, you have the right of abode in the UK, that means you have a right to enter and remain permanently. Everything you are worrying about is simply whether or not someone else will believe you. That person has access to the same info as the passport office - and you expect them to be willing to give you a passport. The only risk here is that you will have to wait for an hour while the IO goes and checks the systems.
Having dogs with you as well is not going to be much of a problem after the IO reads that.
Having dogs with you and putting something else, something untrue, on the landing card is a bigger problem. Putting anything untrue on the landing card is a big issue and that is what the original IO will likely have been advising you about.
As it stands windsong, you have the right of abode in the UK, that means you have a right to enter and remain permanently. Everything you are worrying about is simply whether or not someone else will believe you. That person has access to the same info as the passport office - and you expect them to be willing to give you a passport. The only risk here is that you will have to wait for an hour while the IO goes and checks the systems.
Jun 11th 2014, 3:47 pm
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Re: UK Dual Citizen Entering UK on US Passport
Are you returning to the UK permanently or just going for a visit?
Jun 11th 2014, 3:49 pm
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Permanently. Unless I have to make a special trip to renew my passport so I can take the dogs on the same plane but it doesn't seem that in my case that can be done quickly.
Jun 11th 2014, 4:36 pm
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