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Old Jul 23rd 2018, 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by greenwells
Hi Tim

That specific letter was on company letterhead and had these details:
My name
Job title
company worked for
location of office
annual gross salary
length of employment
contract type
hours per week
Name, email, telephone and address of the HR manager who also wrote "if any question please contact me"
In that case, based on what you've said, this appears to be a Home Office error.

I'd go speak to your MP as soon as you can. This does seem pretty clear-cut and maybe it'll get turned around quickly.

Really nervous about my own application now...
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Originally Posted by greenwells
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My wife received a rejection for the spouse visa today. The letter stated:
You do not meet the eligibility financial requirement of paragraphs E-ECP 3.1 to 3.4
-You have not provided any evidence that your sponsor was in employment at the date of application
-You state on your appendix 2 that your sponsor has subsequently started a 12 month contract with ABC Ltd from 1st April 2018. However you have not provided any evidence of this.


At the date of application I was in employment in a 12 month contract with ABC Ltd. I submitted a signed and stamped version of the full contract which stated dates, salary and location etc. I also submitted a letter from the HR Manager of the company stating dates, salary, location etc. I also submitted 1 payslip from 1 month after the contract started. I also submitted a letter from the finance director of the company confirming the payslip is genuine. I also submitted bank statements showing the money received in the bank.

Has anyone seen this type of rejection before?
I have provided everything but it seems they just ignore the documents and reject.

Should I appeal or request an administrative review or just reapply?

Thanks all This is our second rejection and it is tough to get through.
Hi greenwells

The same thing happened to my husband's application too.
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I have contacted three Immigration solicitors in London who are highly rated on www dot legal500 dot com
Two of them advise that the appeal/review will cost £2000 in legal fees and estimate around 10 months to 1 year turnaround. They say there is no set procedure for visa decisions to be reviewed and it is not defined at all. They also mentioned that if Sheffield does not respond to an appeal it will then go to the courts costing more money and time. And even if you do a review you can easily be refused after 10 months of waiting.

One solicitor advised that I should disregard what the ECO wrote in the rejection letter as they do not explain clearly. He says the real reason for rejection is that the job in UK must be for 6 months minimum. So he recommend to wait till my contract is 6 months complete then reapply.

So it seems quicker and cheaper to reapply.
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Default Re: Spouse Visa Rejected but All Documents Provided

Originally Posted by greenwells
I have contacted three Immigration solicitors in London who are highly rated on www dot legal500 dot com
Two of them advise that the appeal/review will cost £2000 in legal fees and estimate around 10 months to 1 year turnaround. They say there is no set procedure for visa decisions to be reviewed and it is not defined at all. They also mentioned that if Sheffield does not respond to an appeal it will then go to the courts costing more money and time. And even if you do a review you can easily be refused after 10 months of waiting.

One solicitor advised that I should disregard what the ECO wrote in the rejection letter as they do not explain clearly. He says the real reason for rejection is that the job in UK must be for 6 months minimum. So he recommend to wait till my contract is 6 months complete then reapply.

So it seems quicker and cheaper to reapply.
Im sorry about your refusal. It’s scaring me, why are they so carelessly processing applications if everything is provided. How is that even allowed? Why were you refused in your first application
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Hi greenwells.

We are in the same boat.

I called some Immigration solicitors too today, they told me as same as you heard.

I have already contacted my MP office, his assistant asked me to send all documents to them, then he will arrange an interview for me and MP. face to face talk.

The following is the similar case as ours (I am going to do the same), good luck for you:

Originally Posted by veryan
Dear All

I wanted to share my experience with you so that maybe you'll find some hope in it.
I applied for my spouse visa in January this year and it was rejected in April, literally on the 60th working day.
The refusal letter was a template of what they send everyone and did no make any sense, it was clear that they had not looked at the evidence I had sent. they said I didn't meet the financial requirement although we very clearly did as per their own guidance.
I went to the consulate office in my country, they really couldn't help, the consul tried to make some calls but to no avail, I showed her all the evidence and she agreed with me in that we did meet all the requirements.
In an act of desperation I called our local MP and asked for help,
I sent a very very thorough complaint letter to he HO with the MP in copy, the letter rejected the refusal point by point, I made sure that on every single rejection point I quoted both the guidance and the paperwork I had sent and that I needed a very clear response as to why the evidence provided had neither been acknowledged nor dismissed. the MP then followed up with the HO, I must have sent 10 complaint letters, calls, I mean you name it, called the MP's office 3 times a week, finally, 1 month later, the decision was overturned. They revised and looked at everything and realized I had submitted all of the evidence and that we met all of the requirements. Please bare in mind, we were not asking for exemptions and that we had submitted EVERYTHING, we didn't miss one single document, the problem was that the Case worked missed some of the evidence and refused us based on that.

After almost a year of being separated we finally have a travel date.

I wanted to share this to bring hope to so many of you whom I expect are going through the same ordeal, if you know and are 100% sure you sent everything than don't give up, your local MP will support you if you have the truth on your side!

good luck to everyone, and I hope you are able to reunite with your love ones soon!
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Default Re: Spouse Visa Rejected but All Documents Provided

Originally Posted by greenwells
I have contacted three Immigration solicitors in London who are highly rated on www dot legal500 dot com
Two of them advise that the appeal/review will cost £2000 in legal fees and estimate around 10 months to 1 year turnaround. They say there is no set procedure for visa decisions to be reviewed and it is not defined at all. They also mentioned that if Sheffield does not respond to an appeal it will then go to the courts costing more money and time. And even if you do a review you can easily be refused after 10 months of waiting.

One solicitor advised that I should disregard what the ECO wrote in the rejection letter as they do not explain clearly. He says the real reason for rejection is that the job in UK must be for 6 months minimum. So he recommend to wait till my contract is 6 months complete then reapply.

So it seems quicker and cheaper to reapply.
The solicitor is talking 'tosh' with regards the statement "he says the real reason for rejection is that the job in UK must be for 6 months" You applied under Cat B - resident in UK, using your current employment in UK , PLUS your income for the immediate 12 months previous

Cat B specifies:

First, where the applicant’s partner and/or the applicant (if they are in the UK with permission to work) is in salaried employment at the date of application and has been with the same employer, or earning the amount relied upon, for less than the last 6 months, they can count the gross annual salary at the date of application towards the Appendix FM 1.7: Financial Requirement August 2017 25 financial requirement. There is no required minimum period for this current employment, provided that the requirements for specified evidence under paragraph 2 of Appendix FM-SE can be met in respect of it.

Second, the person must in addition have received in the 12 months prior to the date of application the level of income required to meet the financial requirement, based on:  The gross amount of salaried or non-salaried employment income of the applicant’s partner (in the UK or overseas) and/or the applicant (if they are in the UK with permission to work);


You said that you complied with these conditions and had provided all documentation. So you should have been eligible.

I WILL agree with the solicitors that an appeal can take up to 12 months and can be costly. However others on forum HAVE complained etc where they are certain their application has been wrongly refused.

If you do not want to go the route of complaint/admin review, then, yes, you wait until you have been in the job for 6 months and re-apply under Cat A
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Originally Posted by Dannigao
Hi greenwells.

We are in the same boat.

I called some Immigration solicitors too today, they told me as same as you heard.

I have already contacted my MP office, his assistant asked me to send all documents to them, then he will arrange an interview for me and MP. face to face talk.

!

YOU are not in the same boat as greenwell. You have been given a specific reason for refusal - under S-EC2.2. The information you presented for one of your jobs has not been accepted
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I have sent an email to my MP and also a complaint email to the Home office.

I am confused as to the difference between an administration review and a tribunal appeal

The administration review is on this link (got from sandiegogirl)
https://www.gov.uk/ask-for-a-visa-administrative-review

Tribunal appeal is on this link (got from my visa refusal letter)
https://www.gov.uk/immigration-asylu...outside-the-uk
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Default Re: Spouse Visa Rejected but All Documents Provided

Originally Posted by greenwells
I have sent an email to my MP and also a complaint email to the Home office.

I am confused as to the difference between an administration review and a tribunal appeal

The administration review is on this link (got from sandiegogirl)
https://www.gov.uk/ask-for-a-visa-administrative-review

Tribunal appeal is on this link (got from my visa refusal letter)
https://www.gov.uk/immigration-asylu...outside-the-uk
That's a good start.

I think you're doing the right thing chasing this up with your MP. On the face of what you posted yesterday, you have not made any errors in your application and you have been refused unfairly.

I'd try and get a face-to-face with the MP if you can - take along your refusal letter and the documents you submitted, especially the 'missing' employment confirmation letter. Then explain that the only reason your application was rejected was due to a missing document that you did in fact provide. Then see what your MP suggests. He or she may be able to get through to someone in the Home Office who can do some investigation.

I'm not sure whether the administrative review applies to spouse visas (might be wrong about that), but you could lodge an appeal to put your case on the radar. I don't think that costs too much to do, but discuss that with the MP.

At the same time, I'd continue to send polite, to-the-point complaints to the HO asking why the employment confirmation letter you sent was not considered by the ECO when they made their decision.

Wishing you the very best of luck!
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I'm in a similar situation to you and I want to reapeal but I was told it would take a long time and that reapply will be quicker. The downside is that you have to pay to reapply.
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Wednesday 25th morning my solicitor contacted the home office and informed them of my case.
In the afternoon of the same day my wife gets an email explaining that it was a scanning error and she should submit her passport to the Visa Application Centre.

Thursday 26th morning my wife submitted her visa and now we are awaiting anxiously to see what happens.
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Originally Posted by greenwells
Wednesday 25th morning my solicitor contacted the home office and informed them of my case.
In the afternoon of the same day my wife gets an email explaining that it was a scanning error and she should submit her passport to the Visa Application Centre.

Thursday 26th morning my wife submitted her visa and now we are awaiting anxiously to see what happens.

yeah.... sounds like they want the passport to put in the necessary visa - hopefully. Will keep fingers crossed.

We have had several instances of scanned documents not being sent/received. Folks should request a copy of the scanned file for their records.
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Yes the email on wednesday afternoon explained that the decision to refuse the visa has been overturned.
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Yes the email on wednesday afternoon explained that the decision to refuse the visa has been overturned.

So don't know why you are "awaiting anxiously". Looks like you have got your visa if the decision to refuse has been overturned.
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Originally Posted by greenwells
Wednesday 25th morning my solicitor contacted the home office and informed them of my case.
In the afternoon of the same day my wife gets an email explaining that it was a scanning error and she should submit her passport to the Visa Application Centre.

Thursday 26th morning my wife submitted her visa and now we are awaiting anxiously to see what happens.
That’s fantastic news, and what a quick turnaround!

Did you engage a solicitor to look at the refusal specifically, or did you use a solicitor to prepare the application in the first place?

Really happy for you, anyway - seems like there is some justice out there after all!
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