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Jess79 Aug 24th 2017 7:39 am

R.O.A and Returning Resident questions!
 
Hi everyone!
This is my first ever post to any forum so I hope I do this correctly!
I'm a British citizen living in Malaysia. I was born in uk to a British mum and hold a Malaysian passport with ROA.
I married my husband (also Malaysian) in uk and he was given Indefinite Leave to Remain.
We moved to Malaysia in 2005 as he was offered a great job here and have been here ever since.
Now we plan to return to uk, am I correct to assume that my 3 Malaysian born children can apply for the ROA? And should my husband apply as a returning resident?
Sorry this is so long!
We have tried calling the premium visa and immigration number which has cost us loads but still we are non the wiser on what to do!
Thank u in advance for any advice!!

feelbritish Aug 24th 2017 1:41 pm

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Hi, Unfortunately you cannot apply for a Returning Resident as you have been gone for more than 2 years. You will have to go the spouse visa route.

Jess79 Aug 24th 2017 3:21 pm

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Originally Posted by feelbritish (Post 12323582)
Hi, Unfortunately you cannot apply for a Returning Resident as you have been gone for more than 2 years. You will have to go the spouse visa route.

Thank u so much for yr advice..Will look for more info!
And am I correct to apply for the ROA for my children?

feelbritish Aug 24th 2017 3:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Jess79 (Post 12323691)
Thank u so much for yr advice..Will look for more info!
And am I correct to apply for the ROA for my children?

I think your children may be British already if you were born in UK and your mom was British. However I am no expert and I am sure someone else will be along to help you with that.

Jess79 Aug 24th 2017 3:59 pm

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Originally Posted by feelbritish (Post 12323582)
Hi, Unfortunately you cannot apply for a Returning Resident as you have been gone for more than 2 years. You will have to go the spouse visa route.

Hi!! I just looked into it and it looks like he can't join me until I get a job and work for at least 6 mths.. earning a minimum of £18,600 per year? 😱

Is there any other way we would be able to enter uk together?
I don't know if this could help with our application but we will be bringing in all our savings as well as a lump sum from the sale of our home here in order to buy a house in uk.

Thank u!

HKG3 Aug 24th 2017 4:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Jess79 (Post 12323713)
Hi!! I just looked into it and it looks like he can't join me until I get a job and work for at least 6 mths.. earning a minimum of £18,600 per year? 😱

Is there any other way we would be able to enter uk together?
I don't know if this could help with our application but we will be bringing in all our savings as well as a lump sum from the sale of our home here in order to buy a house in uk.

Thank u!

You will need £62,500 worth of cash savings in order to satisfy the spouse visa's financial requirement. You need to hold the funds for at lease six months before you apply for a spouse visa, with the exception of cash coming from a house sale.

HKG3 Aug 24th 2017 4:47 pm

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Originally Posted by feelbritish (Post 12323582)
Hi, Unfortunately you cannot apply for a Returning Resident as you have been gone for more than 2 years. You will have to go the spouse visa route.

If I remember correctly, the returning residence visa is for those Indefinite Leave to Remain holders who left the UK for two years or more. However, it is a difficult visa to get.

HKG3 Aug 24th 2017 4:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Jess79 (Post 12323344)
Hi everyone!
This is my first ever post to any forum so I hope I do this correctly!
I'm a British citizen living in Malaysia. I was born in uk to a British mum and hold a Malaysian passport with ROA.
I married my husband (also Malaysian) in uk and he was given Indefinite Leave to Remain.
We moved to Malaysia in 2005 as he was offered a great job here and have been here ever since.
Now we plan to return to uk, am I correct to assume that my 3 Malaysian born children can apply for the ROA? And should my husband apply as a returning resident?
Sorry this is so long!
We have tried calling the premium visa and immigration number which has cost us loads but still we are non the wiser on what to do!
Thank u in advance for any advice!!

Your three Malaysian born children are British Citizen by descent if they were born on or after 1 January 1983. As British Citizens without a British passport, they are entitle to apply for a ROA certificate on their Malaysian passport.

Please note that as British Citizen by descent, they cannot automatically pass on their British Citizenship to their children (the OP's grandchildren) born overseas.

SanDiegogirl Aug 24th 2017 5:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Jess79 (Post 12323713)
Hi!! I just looked into it and it looks like he can't join me until I get a job and work for at least 6 mths.. earning a minimum of £18,600 per year? 😱

Is there any other way we would be able to enter uk together?
I don't know if this could help with our application but we will be bringing in all our savings as well as a lump sum from the sale of our home here in order to buy a house in uk.

Thank u!

Read the following document carefully. It provides information on all the options for meeting the financial requirements - income/savings/pensions etc.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ment_Final.pdf

If you have 62,500 GBP in an account from sale of home, then you might qualify. (if your children are NOT British citizens you will need more savings to qualify)

Jess79 Aug 24th 2017 6:30 pm

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I'm feeling quite positive now 😊Thank you all for your replies! U guys are amazing!

indianbear Jun 14th 2018 5:18 am

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Hi

I hope your travel back to the UK went well.
Just wondering if you managed to get the ROA for your children and if it was an ardous process? apologies to ask a query on an older thread.

thanks

mikelincs Jun 14th 2018 6:59 am

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Originally Posted by indianbear (Post 12515681)
Hi

I hope your travel back to the UK went well.
Just wondering if you managed to get the ROA for your children and if it was an ardous process? apologies to ask a query on an older thread.

thanks

Jess hasn't posted on the forum since August 2017, so it's very possible that, having had her question answered, she has left British Expats. starting your own thread would be better.

Jess79 Jun 14th 2018 4:39 pm

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Originally Posted by indianbear (Post 12515681)
Hi

I hope your travel back to the UK went well.
Just wondering if you managed to get the ROA for your children and if it was an ardous process? apologies to ask a query on an older thread.

thanks

Hi there,
We have actually postponed our whole move and should be moving next year instead so I haven’t started any applications yet! I will definitely let everyone know how it all goes in the end.
Hope everything goes well for u :)

211071Rd Aug 23rd 2018 8:42 pm

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Hi everyone just want some advise
I went on holiday ,someone stole my passport with my indefinate leave stamp in it now I got a new passport from my country embassy . My question is this HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING A NEW VISA TO GO BACK TO UK AND WHAT TYPE OF VISA SHOULD I APPLIED FOR? A VIGNETTE TRANSFER? OR A RETURNING RESIDENT APPLICATION ? HELP PLEASE

Shadowfair Aug 23rd 2018 10:03 pm

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Originally Posted by HKG3 (Post 12323739)
You will need £62,500 worth of cash savings in order to satisfy the spouse visa's financial requirement. You need to hold the funds for at lease six months before you apply for a spouse visa, with the exception of cash coming from a house sale.


is 62,500 for people outside the uk and £16.5k for uk residents?

BritInParis Aug 23rd 2018 11:44 pm

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Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553487)
Hi everyone just want some advise
I went on holiday ,someone stole my passport with my indefinate leave stamp in it now I got a new passport from my country embassy . My question is this HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING A NEW VISA TO GO BACK TO UK AND WHAT TYPE OF VISA SHOULD I APPLIED FOR? A VIGNETTE TRANSFER? OR A RETURNING RESIDENT APPLICATION ? HELP PLEASE

Vignette transfer/transfer of conditions.


Originally Posted by Shadowfair (Post 12553530)
is 62,500 for people outside the uk and £16.5k for uk residents?

£62,500 is for everyone.

211071Rd Aug 23rd 2018 11:58 pm

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12553553)
Vignette transfer/transfer of conditions.

Hey thanks I sent vignette transfer form in but got an email today telling me I filled the wrong form and
I must fill in a returning resident form and send it back to them . These things are very complicated I didn't see any reason to fill a returning resident form as my situation is different but there u go .

As I prove to them a police report ,and all ther evidence to say that I have lived in the uk for the last 20yrs and never lived anywhere else , I gave bank Statement,business address. Rent receipts, all for the past 3years . I think it should be a straight for application what you think?

Shadowfair Aug 23rd 2018 11:58 pm

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12553553)
Vignette transfer/transfer of conditions.



£62,500 is for everyone.

i must have been wring then as i thought it was 16.5, is there any rule with 16.5 k saving?

SanDiegogirl Aug 24th 2018 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by Shadowfair (Post 12553559)

i must have been wring then as i thought it was 16.5, is there any rule with 16.5 k saving?

No...... if you want to qualify using just savings, it's 62,500 GBP to sponsor spouse alone. More if you have children to sponsor as well.

BritInParis Aug 24th 2018 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553558)
Hey thanks I sent vignette transfer form in but got an email today telling me I filled the wrong form and
I must fill in a returning resident form and send it back to them . These things are very complicated I didn't see any reason to fill a returning resident form as my situation is different but there u go .

As I prove to them a police report ,and all ther evidence to say that I have lived in the uk for the last 20yrs and never lived anywhere else , I gave bank Statement,business address. Rent receipts, all for the past 3years . I think it should be a straight for application what you think?

How long have you been outside the UK?

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 12:15 am

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12553566)

How long have you been outside the UK?

now 15days I left UK 2cnd of august 2018. Only for 2week holiday. Now am stuck trying to get back to work.

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 12:17 am

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Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553568)
now 15days I left UK 2cnd of august 2018. Only for 2week holiday. Now am stuck trying to get back to work.

I thought filling out the vignette would be perfect that's wat everyone told me but they got back to me today saying I should fill out returning resident form which is very expensive compare to the vignet transfer

BritInParis Aug 24th 2018 12:23 am

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Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553569)
I thought filling out the vignette would be perfect that's wat everyone told me but they got back to me today saying I should fill out returning resident form which is very expensive compare to the vignet transfer

Vignette transfer is what you want.

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 12:29 am

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12553570)
Vignette transfer is what you want.

so why they send me back an email asking me to resend a returning resident form? I sent the vignette already with all my evidence to prove that's where I live am only on holiday, but yet they return application telling me to resend it using returning resident? The vignette is £154 compare to returning resident £516 this crazy can shed some lights on this ?

spouse of scouse Aug 24th 2018 1:14 am

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Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553571)
so why they send me back an email asking me to resend a returning resident form? I sent the vignette already with all my evidence to prove that's where I live am only on holiday, but yet they return application telling me to resend it using returning resident? The vignette is £154 compare to returning resident £516 this crazy can shed some lights on this ?

Can you reply to the email you mention above, or are any other contact details provided?

After living the the UK for 20 years, I'd have thought you would have applied for citizenship.

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 3:23 am

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12553566)
How long have you been outside the UK?

15 days

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 11:16 am

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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12553583)
Can you reply to the email you mention above, or are any other contact details provided?

After living the the UK for 20 years, I'd have thought you would have applied for citizenship.

I am not eligible for citizenship until November 2019 , because I came under the 10yrs rule to qualify for citizenship .

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 11:32 am

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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12553583)
Can you reply to the email you mention above, or are any other contact details provided?

After living the the UK for 20 years, I'd have thought you would have applied for citizenship.


Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553760)
I am not eligible for citizenship until November 2019 , because I came under the 10yrs rule to qualify for citizenship .

so should just fill out the returning resident form as they asked? Or challenge them and insist on the vignette? Been as am out of the the country for only 15days due to the lost of my passport, and o can prove that England is home for me would this be a much more straight forward application?

BritInParis Aug 24th 2018 5:18 pm

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Who is ‘they’ telling you to apply for a RRV?

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 5:38 pm

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12553908)
Who is ‘they’ telling you to apply for a RRV?

I got a reply from BRITISH EMBASSY here in new york that the application i.e vignette transfer is incorrect I should fill out an returning resident application and send it back to them .

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 5:45 pm

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Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553916)
I got a reply from BRITISH EMBASSY here in new york that the application i.e vignette transfer is incorrect I should fill out an returning resident application and send it back to them .

well as I am living in the UK and I sent all evidence to prove that I am I should think there should be any issues getting it back in a few days so I can go to work.

211071Rd Aug 24th 2018 5:49 pm

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Originally Posted by 211071Rd (Post 12553921)
well as I am living in the UK and I sent all evidence to prove that I am I should think there should be any issues getting it back in a few days so I can go to work.

I have done some read up on the returning resident rule even though my document lost and am seeking to go back technically I am classified as a returning resident who left the UK less than two years , yes am away from UK now 15days but am still clarified as a person left less than two years. I think the vignette transfer is for persons with limited leave or maybe other category well am no immigration that's just my take on what I read.

BritInParis Aug 24th 2018 8:16 pm

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And you lost a passport with an ILR stamp/vignette rather than a BRP?


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